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Chrono Trigger Mafia: Omni and Scamp Win! Adumbrodeus wins!

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Actually you can have 4ish factions. Some common setups would be:

Town
Mafia
Independent
Stranger/Alien

Stranger/Alien is kind of like Independent, however it is their goal to TRY and purposefully get lynched (which generally is not a traditional win condition for Independents). It's generally for larger games though.

There's a chance that we have a cult leader if we are to take what he says as the truth
 

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A couple of things here...


My suspicions of Joel just raised significantly, Pierce is correct here, he should've told us day 1.



Now I have to ask, two questions.

1. Why would I suggest the possibility of a cult in the first place if I had just been culted? Wouldn't that make me more vulnerable?

2. From a GM standpoint, why in God's good name would you have a mechanic that robs newly culted players of their vote when they're culted? That would make it incredibly easy to track newly culted players, so it would be extremely useless. The "attacked but survived" means "culting" is 100% flavor with no basis in good game mechanics.




Regardless, this information is too important to sit on, as of right now, and we have only one way to confirm whether it's true or not. If Joel is town, then he's not lying. Joel should be the play of the day.
 

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Chibo, are you asking me for my role? Over others?
Why am I suddenly in your sights?

Joel not revealing this day one was probably one of the most anti-town things that any player could have ever done...

And no it wouldn't be lylo day 2, but if we don't nab any scum today it will be tomorrow.
 

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2. From a GM standpoint, why in God's good name would you have a mechanic that robs newly culted players of their vote when they're culted? That would make it incredibly easy to track newly culted players, so it would be extremely useless. The "attacked but survived" means "culting" is 100% flavor with no basis in good game mechanics.
This is a really good point, and changes up some of my ideas. Though I didn't like your first point (#1) but it's whatever.

Then if Adum wasn't the target of a mafia recruit, then what's the nature of his attack. If Lavos was busy recruiting, and the entire indy faction was gone, then a townie should have been the one to attack Adum, a town voteblocker is defintiely a possible role.

@OS: Is that vote count correct? It says 3 votes on me yet only 2 specific people.

For whoever attacked Adum or vote blocked w/e, speak up. It would be very beneficial for town if you did so we can get to the bottom of what's going on.
 

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.Joel, why do you know this?
Because I was told there is the possibility of Lavos Spawns. It was mentioned "by the way" and not really specifically explained. I didn't know what it meant at the time.

Revealing anything else about my information would put me into severe danger.
 

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Joel that is so incredibly vague. Possibility of Lavos spawns? We're all at danger now, it's obvious that a lot of us know a lot which is why a mass claim is becoming more apparent as we all start to reveal some information. And I think we can agree that we want to share our knowledge before we're eventually night killed.
 

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Thinking about everything though,

I'm having an issue trying to throw together reasons why Joel wouldn't tell us this earlier?

If he's scum... no one was pressuring him... so I doubt he's lavos (even though it's a possible risky play to save a spawn...) Also, if he is scum what was the point of revealing this now? The game was starting to centre on Chibo a bit, but otherwise there didn't seem to be anything overly obvious at that point.
The other possibility... that he's town... then I have absolutely NO IDEA why he didn't reveal this earlier. This is like him calling adum a "scummyscumscumscum" or whatever in day 1 but even more genuinely painful to understand.

Joel stated adum as a suspect out of all of this because of his "injured in the night"/can't vote issue. OS has explicitly stated that adum cannot vote today in votecounts, if this were something to happen daily and/or for multiple people it would seem too obvious, as adum said...

Anyway for once I cannot really afford to stay up until 3-4am to cover this. Meant to be awake in about 7 hours.

If Joel is scum, who is his partner? Why do I feel that the reverse psychology thing I mentioned a while back is biting me in the *** for adum? But I too doubt that his vote cancel has to do with him being a spawn.

Because of something like this, it's hard to go from previous days build up because they may not have been a spawn at the time.
Hell... DMG may be a spawn at this point. Picking someone who is seen as a guaranteed townie is something safe to do. Or on the flipside, picking Rajam to make a spawn (but Rajam was THIS close to being lynched already... and was pressured in day 1 already), potentially knowing his role and then making the statement "he is 100% town" is odd too..

Another thing, last game with 15 players there was only one player with "information", which was me (only, I'm pretty sure I'm right here, Overswarm??). With this there's now supposedly 2 "info" players in a game of 11.

All this role claiming today, and all those so keen in doing so could also be lavos/spawn scoping out other player's to convert.
If I could visualise my thoughts on just that, it would be a massive twitch. Pierce, Chibo, Edrees, Rajam I believe all suggested mass role claims?
 

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joel kinda ninja'd.
"By the way, there's possibly lavos spawns"?
That's changed from your original post which said
"Lavos can change people into spawns"

The former for a new player MAY BE explainable, the latter... I don't get it.. it gives me a headache.
 

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I'm not having any special information in my role. I just have an ability related to Lavos Spawns.
 

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If there is a recruiter, a massive claim right now could still be a good idea; let's suppose the next scenario:
OS assigned Town roles to heroes, and Mafia/indy roles to bad guys (I'm learning this is very possible)
As days advances, the recruiter transform Townies into Mafia/indies, so we wouldn't be able to trust roles like Frog, Marle, etc. For the same reason, a mass claim in later days would seriously hurt more than help. Why is everyone so against mass claim? We would claim our roles anyways, not our abilities (like: "I'm Robo", and you don't say anything else)

@ adumbrodeus: It still is possible that Lavos spawns are obvious to everyone. That would mean Town has to kill them and waste days onto that, while we're not focusing on the real, main problem: Lavos (or the recruiter)
 

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So, adumbrodeus was targeted by Mafia, by doctor, and by a role-blocker? lolol
Something's really fishy on here... adumbrodeus just raised a lot on my suspicious list
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What?


No, all I've claimed is that I was hit by 1 power, effectively a vote-blocker power. For flavor reasons, I think it's possible that it had a secondary implication.


And as I said MANY times before, no I CANNOT vote for time periods.


Also, I'm against DMG using his power for the rest of the game. I kinda wanna lock off future again, because your power scares me. I'm content with leaving our options open though.

I actually disagree, though this depends on whether or not Joel is telling the truth. If he can use his power, he wasn't culted.

So Ed, you still down for a Raj lynch?


@ everyone

Also, do you think lynching DMG gives us more info about Raj, or lynching Raj gives more info about DMG?


Both town.
DMG scum, Rajam town.
DMG town, Rajam scum.
Both mafia.

DMG said Rajam is town, if he's town, he has no reason to lie, so our remaining scenarios are.


Both town.
DMG scum, Rajam town.
Both mafia.

DMG has two scum scenarios to Rajam's one, and if DMG flips town, Rajam is a confirmed townie.

If we're gonna challenge the claim, DMG should die.





I dislike Chibo, then (still, but not as much) Pierce. Joel just recently did an exact copy of last mafia game at the end of day 2 to avoid people suddenly getting suspicious of him (that was me and omni trying to pressure), but that doesn't exactly make him my 3rd candidate (there are other small things that peek my curiosity though, but at this point I'm willing to go to 1000AD because I "trust" something he said). But other than chibo and pierce, I'm having a hard time really picking out others; we're all meant to be inexperienced here (except Chibo) yet all I have otherwise is inactive suspicions. Rajam has said some very suss things since last night but coupled with DMG (who we aren't all 100% sure of) I am believe he is town. DMG had a vote on rajam earlier too I believe, making me think that this is not a scum couple play.

Non-scummy? Well other than Edrees I haven't been able to think of anyone else. Even though at the moment he has me on his highest suspicion (I'm wondering if he's starting to tunnel everything I say). Maybe I'm blind but I haven't seen Edrees place more pressure on myself/anyone than I've done...



I must be going insane. I really must be. Maybe it's my own migraine johns (but I'm powering through that with the power of coffee + extremely strong pain killers, but I feel drowsy anyway), but if I list ALL THESE THINGS that made me feel suspicious of Pierce (even though I WILL ADMIT that his play since then has curved it back; but that could be him purposely acting out (e.g. a "quick vote lets get rid of this guy NOW!", quick next post "unvote, I can't let my emotions get to me" to try and pass off my previous suspicions as just emotions).

HOWEVER, I do NOT expect Pierce to be lynched today, maybe that's why you think my play is "passive"? Pierce may be THE SCUM, and his playing is obviously great considering other player's thoughts, but has had things that I find odd enough; to top it off he's pseudo-leading town; IT'S DANGEROUS for what feels like EVERYONE ELSE ignoring THESE THINGS (that I've said numerous times already). If town is being lead by SCUM then the damage done to Town is stupendously more than otherwise.

Take a moment to think about this, the current assumption (from many) is that there are two mafia members.
There are 8 of us.
Rajam and DMG have shown near no-ingame presence (as in ability to pressure, building real cases, etc).
THATS SIX players who have an effect on the game.
Now think adum, he can't vote, and his activity has just been shot to pieces due to not having a power supply.
Five.
Myself and Chibo are under pressure, and I personally feel like a lot of what I say is not being considered when I scum hunt, only being tunnelled into being scum (at least by Edrees). Chibo may or may not be scum, but he isn't scum hunting any better than myself (and has obviously shown to not be as up to date in the game as others).
THREE PEOPLE.
Joel stated he won't be active today (like last game).
Two people.
Two people have effective presence at this time, Pierce and Edrees. How easy is it, may I ask, for one of those two to be mafia? MAYBE EVEN BOTH? Sure there's a much higher chance just by numbers alone that the other 6 could have mafia. But one of these two are a) leading town b) Trying to rush things CONSTANTLY at the deficit of town (at least we have a role claim from Rajam now though, and with him being nearly confirmed town at this point hopefully he can force himself to have presence)
c) And now even though Rajam suggested a massive role claim (and if he hadn't of role claimed that would have been enough for me to think he was scum and vote him), Pierce is powering through a now second person (Chibo) to get a role claim (different to D1 when he just offed SL). Considering only ONE can get lynched, getting another role claim at this point unless that person is scum is ONLY helping Scum. How easy is it for scum to advance their own game in this way when they're in charge of the town assault to do so?

I honestly must be going insane, my "passive play" must mean scum when all I'm seeing going around me is a potentially "perfect" scum game being played at this time.

My play also includes at least trying to save Rajam for as long as possible, I guess that could also been as "Passive" town play trying to elongate a day (but if I was being aggressive like Pierce, Rajam would have been lynched already)



I have a vote on Pierce. Rajam can now successfully gain presence in this game (assuming Rajam isn't teamed with DMG). Considering I thought that Pierce wasn't able to be lynched today (he's the one who's pointed out multiple times we need 5 votes and only 6 can vote), and Chibo lynch may or may not happen (who can be seen as potential scum with a lot LESS thought processing behind it), lynching Rajam to help a lylo situation was feasible.



Yet again I feel like everything else I've said BEFORE has been ignored.



I only saw you saying "i'm comfortable with a pierce lynch after that" due to "i've seen scum saying similar things like that in the past". If I'm missing something else please say so.
Tunneling and WIFORM, Edreeses has put pressure on a great deal more players then you and been more effective applying it.


If Pierce is scum, he's playing a very effective pro-town game, which obviously provides great cover but at a certain point you need to be pro-scum in order to win as scum, so you catch the scum-slips instead of interpreting stuff that could be either a cover or pro-town as scummy.


As far as passivity goes, you're placing analysis over information, you have expressed suspicions of people, but rather then asking questions and attempt to pressure information out of them. New information is the LIFEBLOOD of town.


This is a really good point, and changes up some of my ideas. Though I didn't like your first point (#1) but it's whatever.

Then if Adum wasn't the target of a mafia recruit, then what's the nature of his attack. If Lavos was busy recruiting, and the entire indy faction was gone, then a townie should have been the one to attack Adum, a town voteblocker is defintiely a possible role.
First point is anti-WIFORM.


I've been thinking something though, maybe the example I gave was closer to the truth then I anticipated. I remember running into an irl game a while ago where there was a character that was basically a hunter with a specific target, and had a power that if he used it on his target revealed it was his target, otherwise the guy was roleblocked. Similar theory perhaps?


Because I was told there is the possibility of Lavos Spawns. It was mentioned "by the way" and not really specifically explained. I didn't know what it meant at the time.

Revealing anything else about my information would put me into severe danger.
BS, knowing that there is a cult is worth any individual towny's life, if it would prove there was a cult, I would SD right now by voting.





As far as mass claiming, sure, let's tell a recruiter who's town and who's indies so mafia can concentrate on town and destroy us, yeah.


As far as your scenario, yes Rajam, that is possible, but an unlikely scenario, because it gives away most of the advantages that culting has.
 

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I did not say Raj is confirmed town. I said if we are to believe that he is Robo, that ROBO is a town role. There is the chance that he is also scum, I personally believe he is Robo though. Considering no one else even attempted to counter claim him, I think it's safe to say he is who he says he is. If he is not, I will KILL in person the actual Robo for not speaking up earlier.

I will also be upset if you guys seriously decide to lynch one of us instead of/before seriously pressuring someone else for more info. Do you really think, at this point, flipping a coin between two people who are probably town is better than asking someone else who they are? That scenario shouldn't even run in your head before you think about finding out another role/getting more information from other people.
 

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I did not say Raj is confirmed town. I said if we are to believe that he is Robo, that ROBO is a town role. There is the chance that he is also scum, I personally believe he is Robo though. Considering no one else even attempted to counter claim him, I think it's safe to say he is who he says he is. If he is not, I will KILL in person the actual Robo for not speaking up earlier.

I will also be upset if you guys seriously decide to lynch one of us instead of/before seriously pressuring someone else for more info. Do you really think, at this point, flipping a coin between two people who are probably town is better than asking someone else who they are? That scenario shouldn't even run in your head before you think about finding out another role/getting more information from other people.
Robo is town. There was a reason I asked early on for a Robo claim, and it was with knowledge that he is indeed a town role. It's not an assumption, it's a guarantee.
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WHAT?

So you pretty much explicitly presented yourself as having outside information, and then when we call out testing it, you're like, "well... no, it isn't actually".


You told us it's a guarantee, period, that you know.



I don't like the retraction at all, either he made a stupid completely unwarranted assumption (difference between "guarentee" and "probably") that could've easily cloaked a mafia member, or he just lied.



I really really don't like DMG's play at all, he's either scum or a horribly horribly detrimental VI right now.
 

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Adum, READ IT CAREFULLY.

ROBO IS A GUARANTEED TOWN ROLE. GUARANTEED. I can 100% Guarantee THAT, NOT guarantee that Raj is who he says he is. I DO believe he is Robo, which would make him town.

ROBO = Town

RAJ = Probably Robo, but this isn't confirmed
 

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Ahhh, ok, I thought you were going back on your claim that Robo being town is guaranteed, your post didn't say that you were sticking to either.


As long as you're sticking with that confirmation, we're good for now.
 

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Robo is 100% town and that I guarantee. Whether Raj is Robo or not I am not gonna fully back because I cannot be certain one way or the other, BUT I do think there is a strong chance he is in fact Robo after seeing how things played out. As I said earlier, considering no one claimed the role early when I asked, and no one has come forward and contested his claim, it would lead me to think that he is Robo and Mafia is not gonna risk trying to dispute that. If he turns out to be Mafia, the real Robo is garbage for not saying anything at all lol.
 

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For whoever attacked Adum or vote blocked w/e, speak up. It would be very beneficial for town if you did so we can get to the bottom of what's going on.
 

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No, don't do that. Although I'm kind of pro-massive claim, my biggest fear is to reveal our doctor/role blocker to Mafia
 

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wtf was that Edreeses, you're finding everyone's defenses good, and now you point to me after I've claimed Robo, after I've told my abilities, after DMG tells I'm town too... it makes no sense at all. Weren't you gonna press Chibo?

I'm starting to dislike your play. You seem friendly with everyone, you say a lot of intelligent stuff but at the end, they get lost and no one ends applying your ideas, not even you. Why have you voted by me? Because you don't feel I'm townie? Please point specific scummy attitudes of me, specially considering my claims

I'll vote for you because I also don't feel you're a real townie. What the hell was that "Shaya I'm glad at your responses"???

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Look, my aim isn't to lynch the first person I press. My style is to pressure people into leaking as much information as possible. This is how I've been playing the game. I'm very retracting on people I've pressured once they've leaked out a huge deal of information. Look at how much information I got out of both you and Shaya. What did you want me to do? My aim is to find suspicious behavior, press people on it, get them to leak info, and I decided I was satisfied with Shaya's response, as in - satisfied to the degree where I don't want to lynch him.

I voted for you again because I still don't know whether Robo is town. Yes, you are probably Robo, but how do I know Robo is town? Everyone laid off you, and I got scared of everyone just suddenly forgetting about you, so I laid my vote as a reminder that you aren't completely off the hook. I'm less suspicious of you as the result of your claims, but it would be terrible to completely let you go based on a claim I can't verify. Also, I PRESSURED CHIBO 2 POSTS BEFORE MY POST where I voted for you. I asked him who he trusts the most. This is a pretty strong question, and I didn't ask anybody else. I was starting to pressure him and, thanks for the reminder, I will continue in this post.

Do you think pressuring people to leak information , then jumping back to another, then shifting my votes is scummy behavior? You got incredibly pissed just because I voted for you despite your claim. Really bugs me. As for specific scummy behavior you wanted me to point out here's a few

-Wanting to mass role claim
-Voting for me because I voted for you
-Sudden change in posting style (earlier in the game, when we all called you out)
-Voting for a time period without consulting anyone

You act as if I should completely forgive all your past scummy behaviors just because your claim. No, what's going to actually happen is I will be a lot less suspicious of you for the claim, but I will continue to consider you a decently likely candidate as scum because of a ton of past transgressions. I'm going to admit I'm not neaaarly as suspicious of you - I was just playing that card to send a message to you that you can't relax, that's really the reason for the vote.

By the way, I'm not "trying to be nice"...my goal isn't to be nice to people, it's to get town a win, and I'm only "nice" to people I think are town.

Unvote

...okay, guys.

I think I should give you an important information about Lavos. Apparently, he is some sort of cult leader or something similar. Why I believe this?
Alright, listen about this:
I have the actual information in my role PM that Lavos is able to turn people into Lavos Spawns. What this includes in terms of restrictions, I don't know. I just know that he can do this.

Now, we have someone who was attacked in the night and was crippled when it comes to voting, right? Why, that would be adumbrodeus.

FoS: adumbrodeus

If my assumption is correct, Lavos is able to recruit one or more players as Lavos Spawns and have them turn into scum.
I honestly don't think Mafia would ever reveal this kind of crucial information. Even if Joel did it late, as Shaya said, Joel, if Mafia, would have nothing to gain from revealing it at this time. I think he just finally decided he had the balls/willing to take the risk to do it, or he realized just how important it is and had to spill it.

Chibo, are you asking me for my role? Over others?
Why am I suddenly in your sights?


And no it wouldn't be lylo day 2, but if we don't nab any scum today it will be tomorrow.Joel not revealing this day one was probably one of the most anti-town things that any player could have ever done. I'm less suspicious of Joel for revealing this information, even if it was much later than we needed it.
I don't think its necessarily anti town. What if Joel has an important power? By revealing this info he's shown that he has some power and knows ****. He's shown that he's not a vanilla townie, and to me that puts a target on his back. I don't think that's "EXTREMELY" anti town, even if it does hurt town and is slightly anti town behavior.

I am disliking Chibo's confusing play a lot. He suddenly has Shaya in his "sights", is jumping back and forth between wanting mass/popcorn claims, and is just trying to suck way too much information out of town. I thought an experienced player above all would know that, you are better off having mafia get random kills on town than having them have town players they can "save for later" when towns numbers are dwindled because those town members are not really threats ability-wise. I think I do, afterall, want a claim out of him to see why his behavior is so erratic. I especially don't like that he is so desperate to find out who attacked Adumbrodeus. Chibo, you are just generally trying to get way too much information that may be MORE beneficial for mafia to know than town. You are now my top most likely candidate to be scum. Unvote. Vote: Chibo

This is a really good point, and changes up some of my ideas. Though I didn't like your first point (#1) but it's whatever.

Then if Adum wasn't the target of a mafia recruit, then what's the nature of his attack. If Lavos was busy recruiting, and the entire indy faction was gone, then a townie should have been the one to attack Adum, a town voteblocker is defintiely a possible role.

@OS: Is that vote count correct? It says 3 votes on me yet only 2 specific people.

For whoever attacked Adum or vote blocked w/e, speak up. It would be very beneficial for town if you did so we can get to the bottom of what's going on.
Perhaps Mafia/Lavos tried to recruit Adumbrodeus but it failed, or partly went through and doesn't let him vote. It doesn't make sense to me for Adumb to have been recruited when he said the "ATTACK FAILED". The attack would probably SUCCEED if he was converted..so who knows. It's so confusing and probably a mystery that will help tie this all together (esp why there was no nightkill)

I did not say Raj is confirmed town. I said if we are to believe that he is Robo, that ROBO is a town role. There is the chance that he is also scum, I personally believe he is Robo though. Considering no one else even attempted to counter claim him, I think it's safe to say he is who he says he is. If he is not, I will KILL in person the actual Robo for not speaking up earlier.

I will also be upset if you guys seriously decide to lynch one of us instead of/before seriously pressuring someone else for more info. Do you really think, at this point, flipping a coin between two people who are probably town is better than asking someone else who they are? That scenario shouldn't even run in your head before you think about finding out another role/getting more information from other people.
I do believe that Rajam is Robo, however, I also think there is a very strong chance he isn't town. Stop relying on flavor, read the first post: If you rely on flavor you will get burned ESP considering tmafia could be recruited as Lavos Spawns, it gives more reason to believe that heroes can be mafia.

Adum, READ IT CAREFULLY.

ROBO IS A GUARANTEED TOWN ROLE. GUARANTEED. I can 100% Guarantee THAT, NOT guarantee that Raj is who he says he is. I DO believe he is Robo, which would make him town.

ROBO = Town

RAJ = Probably Robo, but this isn't confirmed
Look, I want to believe you. If I can assume he is definitely town, that will help sooooo much. But you have to understand how hard it is to believe you. Like I said, which you didn't comment on it, do you believe Robo is a town role just because he's your mason partner or something? as I stated before, BEING mason partners with someone DOES NOT CONFIRM THEM TOWN.

I've taken bets with people where I was "100% sure" of something. How do I know you didn't overlook something? Putting someone into "100% town" category without evidence why is dangerous and wanting to do it is what scum wants Perhaps you've seen the evidence for it, but if I haven't seen the evidence, how can you expect me to go with it!?
 

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Edreeses, DMG says I'm town because it was a mod communication in his PM role

I also can't deny I agree with you in most of your points. You don't really look scum, so if you're Mafia you are mind-gaming all of us really badly lol

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Edreeses, could you briefly share what are your thoughts on Shaya?
Finally, is undeniable Chibo is shifting styles a lot... I don't like adumbrodeus neither at the time, but let's press Chibo since he has been at the top of the scummy list all day 2 as well

vote: ChiboSempai
 

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Vote: Chibo

I've not been liking Chibo's postings since Day 1, and toDay it's even worse. He is heavily suggesting everyone claiming their roles, and continues dragging on it, so he might be trying to figure out whom to target in the night. I also dislike his erratic playstyle and his posts smell almost all completely scummy. I can't figure anyone else being scummier than Chibo.
 

adumbrodeus

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Edreeses, he just confirmed again that Robo is town, not necessarily Rajam.


It would be extremely odd if he was masons with somebody who he didn't know the name of, but knew the character identity. He also said it was mod-confirmed.



As far as Joel... if Joel is town, this is incredibly crucial information, and he'd better have one heck of a power role. The thing is, if he's scum, what's a better way to hurt town then to convince them there's culting in play, that's my biggest concern here.

Edreeses, DMG says I'm town because it was a mod communication in his PM role

I also can't deny I agree with you in most of your points. You don't really look scum, so if you're Mafia you are mind-gaming all of us really badly lol

unvote

Edreeses, could you briefly share what are your thoughts on Shaya?
Finally, is undeniable Chibo is shifting styles a lot... I don't like adumbrodeus neither at the time, but let's press Chibo since he has been at the top of the scummy list all day 2 as well

vote: ChiboSempai
Hopping on the safe bandwagon, I'd prefer you showed some initiative.


Also, what don't you like about me?
 

CT Chia

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Are you ****ing kidding? You guys just lynched me?

You guys took what might have become an ok game with a good chance of us winning and messed up a stuff a lot.

I'm Ayla, Town Tracker. When in the pre-historic period at night I get to track 2 people instead of one.

Last night I tracked Rajam and Shaya.

Rajam visited no one (hence why I didn't think he was scum today and didn't want to force him to claim)
Shaya visited Pierce.
 

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Final Vote Count for Day 2:

Pierce7D (1)- Shaya
Chibo (5) - DMG, Pierce7D, edreesespieces, Rajam, .joel

Time periods
Present: 1000 A.D. - Pierce7D, .joel, Rajam
Pre-historic: 65,000,000,000 B.C.- Chibo


Not voting:
Adumbrodeus, Chibo,

A deadline is set for Monday, June 7th, at 3:00 p.m. EST

With 8 players remaining, it takes 5 to lynch.

The game is now in Twilight until I post the results
 

CT Chia

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I wanted to find out what role Shaya was (the person I wanted to claim before me), so I could take his claim and see if it matches up with my findings. If he claimed a roll that doesn't visit people at night, then he would have been scum.
 

Red Arremer

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Wait, didn't edrees unvote chibo and vote for rajam instead? i thought we were at l-1 -.- dammit.
 

Red Arremer

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why the **** did you hide your vote somewhere in between your text edrees? when i re-checked the vote-counts i oversaw that one... i thought my vote put chibo on l-1
 

Red Arremer

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yea, but in a MASSIVE wall of text and in the SAME line as the rest of the paragraph and the line even breaks up. i just scrolled over the postings because the votes are usually posted in their own lines.
 

CT Chia

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Why would you even put me at L-1???

Not to mention the mini exchange with Pierce where he kind of agreed with me that we should take things slow for a bit and play rationally, and it turns out he never unvoted me.

If this scum recruiter thing is true, keep a major eye on Shaya and Pierce. Everyone knows how Pierce's play started to change Day 2, it's possible the track I got on Shaya was him recruiting Pierce.
 

CT Chia

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yea, but in a MASSIVE wall of text and in the SAME line as the rest of the paragraph and the line even breaks up. i just scrolled over the postings because the votes are usually posted in their own lines.
So you're not reading what people say?

Especially doing something like putting a player at L-1, you should definitely be caught up in the game and know exactly whats going on.
 

Red Arremer

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what the hell, lol.

you're accusing me now of not reading Edrees' post cause when recounting all votes i oversaw the hidden vote? seriously, that's stupid.
 

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adum why did you hammered Chibo sadjklasj ._. you didn't even checked the vote count and hence didn't give Chibo time to claim

...........
 

Rajam

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Are you ****ing kidding? You guys just lynched me?

You guys took what might have become an ok game with a good chance of us winning and messed up a stuff a lot.

I'm Ayla, Town Tracker. When in the pre-historic period at night I get to track 2 people instead of one.

Last night I tracked Rajam and Shaya.

Rajam visited no one (hence why I didn't think he was scum today and didn't want to force him to claim)
Shaya visited Pierce.
Chibo, what does it mean when you say Shaya visited Pierce? They can communicate? They're confirmed scum? What other theories are there?
 
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