Os if you confirmed I can't vote it's not fair to only let Shaya see it.
He has been saying it explicitly in the post, I doubt you'll realise that at this point, but take a LOOK.
@Shaya: I'd like an answer to my question.
Here's another one, who are the top 3 scummiest players in the game at the moments in your opinion?
Who are the top 3 least scummy players at the moment in your opinion?
Yes, I recognize you did blurbs on players, but it's a little out of date.
I dislike Chibo, then (still, but not as much) Pierce. Joel just recently did an exact copy of last mafia game at the end of day 2 to avoid people suddenly getting suspicious of him (that was me and omni trying to pressure), but that doesn't exactly make him my 3rd candidate (there are other small things that peek my curiosity though, but at this point I'm willing to go to 1000AD because I "trust" something he said). But other than chibo and pierce, I'm having a hard time really picking out others; we're all meant to be inexperienced here (except Chibo) yet all I have otherwise is inactive suspicions. Rajam has said some very suss things since last night but coupled with DMG (who we aren't all 100% sure of) I am believe he is town. DMG had a vote on rajam earlier too I believe, making me think that this is not a scum couple play.
Non-scummy? Well other than Edrees I haven't been able to think of anyone else. Even though at the moment he has me on his highest suspicion (I'm wondering if he's starting to tunnel everything I say). Maybe I'm blind but I haven't seen Edrees place more pressure on myself/anyone than I've done...
I'm not liking your passivity, you're active, but I don't see any real pushes from you, you promised a case though, I have yet to see it.
I must be going insane. I really must be. Maybe it's my own migraine johns (but I'm powering through that with the power of coffee + extremely strong pain killers, but I feel drowsy anyway), but if I list ALL THESE THINGS that made me feel suspicious of Pierce (even though I WILL ADMIT that his play since then has curved it back; but that could be him purposely acting out (e.g. a "quick vote lets get rid of this guy NOW!", quick next post "unvote, I can't let my emotions get to me" to try and pass off my previous suspicions as just emotions).
HOWEVER, I do NOT expect Pierce to be lynched today, maybe that's why you think my play is "passive"? Pierce may be THE SCUM, and his playing is obviously great considering other player's thoughts, but has had things that I find odd enough; to top it off he's pseudo-leading town; IT'S DANGEROUS for what feels like EVERYONE ELSE ignoring THESE THINGS (that I've said numerous times already). If town is being lead by SCUM then the damage done to Town is stupendously more than otherwise.
Take a moment to think about this, the current assumption (from many) is that there are two mafia members.
There are 8 of us.
Rajam and DMG have shown near no-ingame presence (as in ability to pressure, building real cases, etc).
THATS SIX players who have an effect on the game.
Now think adum, he can't vote, and his activity has just been shot to pieces due to not having a power supply.
Five.
Myself and Chibo are under pressure, and I personally feel like a lot of what I say is not being considered when I scum hunt, only being tunnelled into being scum (at least by Edrees). Chibo may or may not be scum, but he isn't scum hunting any better than myself (and has obviously shown to not be as up to date in the game as others).
THREE PEOPLE.
Joel stated he won't be active today (like last game).
Two people.
Two people have effective presence at this time, Pierce and Edrees. How easy is it, may I ask, for one of those two to be mafia? MAYBE EVEN BOTH? Sure there's a much higher chance just by numbers alone that the other 6 could have mafia. But one of these two are a) leading town b) Trying to rush things CONSTANTLY at the deficit of town (at least we have a role claim from Rajam now though, and with him being nearly confirmed town at this point hopefully he can force himself to have presence)
c) And now even though Rajam suggested a massive role claim (and if he hadn't of role claimed that would have been enough for me to think he was scum and vote him), Pierce is powering through a now second person (Chibo) to get a role claim (different to D1 when he just offed SL). Considering only ONE can get lynched, getting another role claim at this point unless that person is scum is ONLY helping Scum. How easy is it for scum to advance their own game in this way when they're in charge of the town assault to do so?
I honestly must be going insane, my "passive play" must mean scum when all I'm seeing going around me is a potentially "perfect" scum game being played at this time.
My play also includes at least trying to save Rajam for as long as possible, I guess that could also been as "Passive" town play trying to elongate a day (but if I was being aggressive like Pierce, Rajam would have been lynched already)
Do you mean to say you don't think he is scum, but he might be, but that even if he isn't he'd be useless later so you wouldn't oppose lynching him? if u don't think he's scum, I don't think u should vote for his lynch JUST because he wouldn't be good in lylo. you should focus ur lynch vote on someone who you think is really scummy, IMO. however, I do understand ur reasoning if you can't seem to find anyone particularly scummy, and have to settle on lynching players who'd just be bad in lylo. So do u mean to say that you can't seem to find anyone too scummy, so you don't mind voting Rajam since he'd be bad in lylo? is this a safe representation of your point? If not I'd appreciate clarification, thanks.
I have a vote on Pierce. Rajam can now successfully gain presence in this game (assuming Rajam isn't teamed with DMG). Considering I thought that Pierce wasn't able to be lynched today (he's the one who's pointed out multiple times we need 5 votes and only 6 can vote), and Chibo lynch may or may not happen (who can be seen as potential scum with a lot LESS thought processing behind it), lynching Rajam to help a lylo situation was feasible.
Like I said, I can understand if u'd vote for him, even when u think he's probably not scum, because you think he'd be useless in lylo. However, I can only agree with this IF YOU do not find anyone else scummy at all. You just stated twice that you don't think rajam is scummy, just that you'd throw in ur vote in support of his lynch if that's what town wants, because he wouldn't be useful in lylo. I say, why not try to convince the rest of us why we are wrong about Rajam being scummy, and point out someone else who is acting scummier, so you don't have to "settle" like this?
Yet again I feel like everything else I've said BEFORE has been ignored.
I certainly did explain my reasons for voting Pierce. Did you miss them? tbh at the time I didn't even know you were voting him, I put the vote on because I honestly thought before that I did.
I only saw you saying "i'm comfortable with a pierce lynch after that" due to "i've seen scum saying similar things like that in the past". If I'm missing something else please say so.
