Chrono Trigger Mafia: Omni and Scamp Win! Adumbrodeus wins!

[CT Chia]

fine

rajam claim

but if you have 3-4 ppl regularly voting you with all thats been said that should also be a hint that its in best interest of the town

 

[EdreesesPieces]

That makes 5 vote claims for Rajam! There you go. Your claim?

 

[Rajam]

claim: Robo

 

[adumbrodeus]

claim: Robo

That's a start, could we get something we could confirm please?

 

[Overswarm]

rajam (3) - .joel, DMG, Chibo
Pierce7D (1)- Shaya
Shaya (1) -edreesespieces,
Chibo (2) - Rajam, Pierce7D

Time periods
Present: 1000 A.D. - Pierce7D, .joel, Rajam
Pre-historic: 65,000,000,000 B.C.- Chibo


Not voting:
Adumbrodeus

Rajam to Claim: (3): Edrees, Pierce, .joel

A deadline is set for Monday, June 7th, at 3:00 p.m. EST

With 8 players remaining, it takes 5 to lynch.



OS is not fail! He just can't always proofread his stuff when at work! >:[

 

[Red Arremer]

lol OS copied Edrees' post. XD

 

[Rajam]

That's a start, could we get something we could confirm please?

Hardly... not now, not in the next day at least (...)

 

[CT Chia]

I suppose if OS keeps track of these new commands we make up then they're pretty useful.

Rajam was the one that asked everyone who was Robo right? -_-
Well, no counter claim from me.

Rajam, what's your power if you have one. I'm sure you do considering how quickly you went to hop to the future in the first day.

 

[Rajam]

No, DMG was the one asking for Robo

? I voted for 600 AD day 1. I insist i voted plain random

And no, I'd prefer to hide my ability(ies) to Mafia

 

[adumbrodeus]

And no, I'd prefer to hide my ability(ies) to Mafia

...

Then you will probably die, plain and simple.


We asked you to claim so you we could either confirm you identity somehow or decide whether it's worth the risk that you are who you say you are.


Since everyone voted for you to claim, there's no way you'll escape lynch without a substantiative claim.







@Chibo I suggest you answer the posts directed at you, ignoring them won't make them go away.

 

[CT Chia]

Sorry, that's right.

Well, I want to hear DMG's take on this asap now.

Rajam, when you claim you should also claim your ability.

You're just giving us a name, something scum with a safe claim can easily do.

For all I know, you're still useless.

 

[Rajam]

adum, I already claimed Robo. If no one else claims Robo, I'm ok, aren't I?
Also if someone else claims to be Robo, I'll take the lynch this day without opposing it, then you can lynch the fake next day

 

[CT Chia]

@Chibo[/B] I suggest you answer the posts directed at you, ignoring them won't make them go away.

Are there some I missed? Sorry I must have missed them on my read through. If anyone has a question they asked me that I missed point it out please, I'm more than willing to answer anything.

 

[CT Chia]

adum, I already claimed Robo. If no one else claims Robo, I'm ok, aren't I?
Also if someone else claims to be Robo, I'll take the lynch this day without opposing it, then you can lynch the fake next day

No, that's not the case at all.

 

[Pierce7d]

I'm so done with this.

Unvote
Vote: Rajam

 

[Pierce7d]

Unvote

Let me not let my emotions get in the way, and think for a moment.

 

[Rajam]

This is stupid...

I have an ability. I can activate it in Future 2300 AD. I have no debuffs, and no abilities in other Periods of Time. No one else is claiming to be Robo (waiting for DMG, Shaya and the others anyways). Can we focus on actual scum now?

 

[CT Chia]

Unvote

because I Don't want him to die just yet. I want to hear what DMG has to say since he asked if anyone was robo and since we've got our robo now.

if nothing else changes though, I'm likely going to revote rajam

New command -_-
if you want to claim your power, type
Power Claim: Person

Power Claim: Rajam
...
-_-

 

[Rajam]

...
*waiting for 5 of those votes again*

idk why Town members would want my ability to be public to Mafia though

 

[adumbrodeus]

adum, I already claimed Robo. If no one else claims Robo, I'm ok, aren't I?
Also if someone else claims to be Robo, I'll take the lynch this day without opposing it, then you can lynch the fake next day

Actually, no.


Robo could easily be a safe-claim, hell robo could be scum.

I want you to convince me that you're useful enough to town to not get lynched in spite of your poor gameplay and scummyish behavior.

Are there some I missed? Sorry I must have missed them on my read through. If anyone has a question they asked me that I missed point it out please, I'm more than willing to answer anything.

Try this one.

 

[adumbrodeus]

...
*waiting for 5 of those votes again*

idk why Town members would want my ability to be public to Mafia though

How about we lynch you first?

 

[Rajam]

I'm screwed. If you actually think Robo is Mafia, then I can't do much. My ability is not of the info type, so even if you leave me at l-1 or lynch me, I won't be able to leak useful info for Town since I don't have any. I guess I'll get lynched anyways so I'd prefer to hide my ability (seriously, leaking it won't be useful to town at all) and reveal it in the Future when I can prove it if I survive until that time

 

[CT Chia]

Ok, Chibo you made your case, how about some scumhunting?


Your idea of lavos being immune to something but being unable to vote and NK is interesting to say the least, but if so, why the penalty of death on it?



Regardless, similar to shaya, you seem to be willing to analyze, but little active scumhunting.


Who do you think is scum?

What do you mean by penalty of death? You must have misread a little bit of it. My theory was perhaps that in 65 billion bc (before lavos existed) lavos in this game becomes someone who can't vote, cant kill at night, and is bulletproof (and maaaybe lynch proof). aka, he is powerless since he doesn't exist, but you cant kill him because he doesnt exist yet.

As for scum, I'm INCREDIBLY not liking Rajam lately especially with this fishy role business. I need to hear from DMG and Rajam's ability before I make my final decision on whether or not I personally want him dead. Besides that, I'm somewhat suspicious of Pierce, and I've stated my case on him throughout the day, more earlier on. However that's not as important as the Rajam case atm. I'm also very wary of DMG's claim and thinking him being scum is still a possibility. I don't want him getting off free with proving a power that seems somewhat anti town.

 

[CT Chia]

I'm screwed. If you actually think Robo is Mafia, then I can't do much. My ability is not of the info type, so even if you leave me at l-1 or lynch me, I won't be able to leak useful info for Town since I don't have any. I guess I'll get lynched anyways so I'd prefer to hide my ability (seriously, leaking it won't be useful to town at all) and reveal it in the Future when I can prove it if I survive until that time

Rajam, if you're going to be lynched, it is IMPERATIVE that you tell us your ability since otherwise we will never know and it will leave us completely in the dark, not to mention it might convince us to let you live. And if you become a target for mafia, then w/e, it could at least help save us from a mislynch today.

Considering this, it could make my no lynch + prehistoric play even more enticing because if we find out there's no night kill again staying here with Rajam surivivng despite an outted PR, that's huuuuge and we learn a lot from that.

 

[Rajam]

In fact if you think Robo (me) is mafia, why can't we think Lucca (DMG?) is mafia? The guy is more inactive than me, his ability is kind of useless since we're proceeding in a ordered way to pick periods of time, and it can be potentially more dangerous to Town than for Mafia...

I won't vote for DMG though, I do think he is Town; I still think based on what I've seen and based on my own role and alliance, that all the good guys are Town, and bad guys are Mafia

 

[adumbrodeus]

I agree with you on DMG partially, I think he's not out of the woods yet, and I think we're being a bit too hasty with our "confirmed"s (remember me talking about why being attacked doesn't mean I'm confirmed town?). Regardless, what makes DMG stand out to you as suspicious.


I'd like you to expand on it though, does Pierce's current activity make you more suspicious, less suspicious, or cause no change? Why?




As far as your theory, I didn't misread, everyone can vote today, myself excluded, so I'm the only possible target. So, with your theory, "dead upon voting" seems to be an odd way to implement this, and I'm wondering what your explanation is.

 

[CT Chia]

adum can you vote for a time period? dont do so to test lol

 

[Rajam]

I agree with you on DMG partially, I think he's not out of the woods yet, and I think we're being a bit too hasty with our "confirmed"s (remember me talking about why being attacked doesn't mean I'm confirmed town?). Regardless, what makes DMG stand out to you as suspicious.


I'd like you to expand on it though, does Pierce's current activity make you more suspicious, less suspicious, or cause no change? Why?




As far as your theory, I didn't misread, everyone can vote today, myself excluded, so I'm the only possible target. So, with your theory, "dead upon voting" seems to be an odd way to implement this, and I'm wondering what your explanation is.

? Was the text in light blue a question?

? Were the other questions addresed to Chibo or me? Sorry not getting it clear

 

[adumbrodeus]

In fact if you think Robo (me) is mafia, why can't we think Lucca (DMG?) is mafia? The guy is more inactive than me, his ability is kind of useless since we're proceeding in a ordered way to pick periods of time, and it can be potentially more dangerous to Town than for Mafia...

I won't vote for DMG though, I do think he is Town; I still think based on what I've seen and based on my own role and alliance, that all the good guys are Town, and bad guys are Mafia

We think it's possible, but DMG has proven that he's most likely Lucca and is operating his power in a way governed by town.

If you're willing to give us something to chew on, we might turn our attention elsewhere (remember, chibo and shaya have been under heavy fire today as well), depending on what it is.



Let me make this simple, right now most people wanna lynch you, why shouldn't we lynch you?

adum can you vote for a time period? dont do so to test lol

No, I stated before that I cannot.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Rajam, you ninja'd me, yes it was a question, and it was a follow-up on Chibo's answer.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Speaking of which, I'm out, I'll try to get access again ASAP.


Could everyone around follow up on my pressure?

 

[Pierce7d]

I say we lynch Chibo, go to present, decide whether or not to lynch Shaya, go to future, check out Raj's power, and wing it from there

AFTER Raj tells us if this plan is worth executing by revealing his whole power. If he gets night killed, that just saves me the trouble of killing him myself, and essentially helps not waste a townie.

So Raj, stop with all this anti town nonsense and just come out with it already.

 

[Rajam]

(...)

Ability claim: While we are in Future 2300 AD, I can pick one of two abilities:

- My lynch vote counts by two
- My travel vote counts by three

Happy now? Let's lynch someone else pls

 

[Overswarm]

rajam (2) - .joel, DMG
Pierce7D (1)- Shaya
Shaya (1) -edreesespieces,
Chibo (1) - Rajam,

Time periods
Present: 1000 A.D. - Pierce7D, .joel, Rajam
Pre-historic: 65,000,000,000 B.C.- Chibo


Not voting:
Adumbrodeus, Chibo, Pierce7D

A deadline is set for Monday, June 7th, at 3:00 p.m. EST

With 8 players remaining, it takes 5 to lynch.

 

[EdreesesPieces]

So why did you think it was better to die than to let mafia know of that ability?

Anyway, last time in an OS mafia game that someone had a double lynch vote they were mafia >.< This is extreme metagaming though, but just pointing it out.

As long as we don't go to future, Rajam can't abuse his abilities - if we trust he is telling us the truth.

 

[DMG]

I HIGHLY believe he is telling the truth.

What convinced me that he is telling the truth is the part about 2300 AD. His ability buffs also sound pretty reasonable. I'll also explain more why I think he is telling the truth:

Remember when I asked someone to Robo Claim? There was a purpose behind this. I am already aware that Robo is a town role. However, I wasn't gonna state that earlier because that would have opened the door to Mafia claiming the role much more easily. If people are unsure what alignment a character has, they are less likely to get away with safe claiming it.

When I asked for the Robo claim, and people were uneasy about answering it, that proved for me that people were unsure enough about Robo's alignment that no one Mafia or otherwise was willing to risk claiming the role that early. Raj could have claimed it earlier, but the odds were you all would have jumped on him that instant and wanted him lynched.

So, I believe there is strong enough reasoning that he IS in fact Robo, and I highly advise us to pressure someone else at this point.

 

[CT Chia]

I agree with you on DMG partially, I think he's not out of the woods yet, and I think we're being a bit too hasty with our "confirmed"s (remember me talking about why being attacked doesn't mean I'm confirmed town?). Regardless, what makes DMG stand out to you as suspicious.


I'd like you to expand on it though, does Pierce's current activity make you more suspicious, less suspicious, or cause no change? Why?


As far as your theory, I didn't misread, everyone can vote today, myself excluded, so I'm the only possible target. So, with your theory, "dead upon voting" seems to be an odd way to implement this, and I'm wondering what your explanation is.

DMG claimed before he was even at L-1 right? I forget, he claimed during a day when I was away and had to catch up reading. He seems a bit reliable on his claim and not his play which is what made me question it in the first place.

I would say Pierce's play lately has been a bit better to me. He's back to acting a bit more cautious matching his Day 1 play.

What do you mean by "dead upon voting?"

 

[DMG]

And yes, I can GUARANTEE you Robo is town aligned. Raj is very likely Robo, seeing as how no one counter claimed him. If he was Mafia, at the very least the person who truly had the role would have spoken up by now.

Unvote: Raj

Vote: Chibo

 

[CT Chia]

DMG how do you know that Robo is town 100%

Rajam, mafia knowing that doesn't do anything whether your dead or not. However, leaving that kind of power to Rajam does make me sort of wary over the other players in this game with his sporadic play and being under fire.

 

[DMG]

I have in game knowledge that Robo is town aligned. Meaning he is 100% town.