Chrono Trigger Mafia: Omni and Scamp Win! Adumbrodeus wins!

[ShadowLink84]

I'll get back to your post later Pierce. I have to head out to help a friend out.

 

[Rajam]

@ Pierce: Sorry I got behind in the game and that's why I'm re-reading old posts. In fact in my last post i quoted stuff from posts #80 to #100 or something like that (page 4 & 5 with a 20 posts-per-page configuration). My point is: If you posted a logic reason for why Town should go to EoT, I'll check it for sure. I'm still checking old stuff but of course, my objetive is to do that quick (before May 26th) and make my vote as informed as possible. I voted for you since what I quoted, even for today, seems very weird to me. That said, I'll move faster and catch up to actual discussion. I'll read and check your reasonings as I advance through old posts, before Wednesday of course.

I'll try not to act so recklessly too, I'm trying to remove the noobness from me lol. I'll change my vote and instead put a FOS on you (Keeping the same reasons by now). If I don't find your reasons enough to go out from my suspicious list, I'll vote for you again (unless someone else gets more suspicious)

unvote
FOS: Pierce7d

 

[CT Chia]

ok im thinking we should start pushing towards a lynch and forcing a claim. i can only guess Lavos would get a safe nameclaim but i doubt he'd get a safe role claim

rajam, shadowlink, or dmg imo.

Why do you think this exactly? And why specifically force a claim?

I don't understand why Pierce suggested, way back when, to let Omni decide where to go but not let him go where he clearly wants to go. Anyone other than Omni catch this?

Finally, the worst offender so far is Chibo IMO. At least he's been kind of active recently, but he's clearly not in the game as much as he should be. Most of the time he quotes things and replies to them individually and not within the context of the game. I also like how he's advertising another game in this game and that he just unvoted without even voting first. Oy.

I caught that about Pierce, and it's interesting, but I don't know what to think of it so I didn't comment on it.

Lol I don't get what you think is wrong with me. I'm not supposed to be answering people and sharing my thoughts on topics? And so what if I said that about my game, a lot of the players in this game aren't in other games and haven't played Mafia outside of the BBR on SWF. And I was voting Rajam wasn't I? I'm almost sure of it.

Today I have yet to see true "scum-tells";

In reality one of the few things we have to go on is the flavour that is imbued into the game's mechanics; that is voting for a time line. This obviously has left Rajam, ShadowLink and Chibo as having the main notoriety of the day. As I've already mentioned, Chibo has casually "thrown away" his connection abruptly after shadowlink posted his reasoning (planned perhaps?).

I didn't throw away my connection. The things I said were: 1. I want to vote for a time period that's already been voted for. 2. I don't want to vote with Rajam since at the time I found him the scummiest and had my normal vote on him, so that left SL left and nothing else. 3. I expressed my distaste of some of SL's later posts.
I never expressed a connection with SL in the first place.

Joel' argument started after he had been voted for by Adumbrodeus I believe.
I really don't like the way Rajam has been playing.
He wants to keep the inactives alive? Why?

It is stuff like that which causes scum pounces like last game.

I didn't say I want to keep inactives alive.

Both of them are of a different creed to last game's inactives as well.
One seems to be too awkward being new at the game to understand what he should be posting (even though I may be over defending him for this),
the other is being from what i've seen thus far, normal scamp.

Why did you answer SL's question to Rajam?

I said omni is my top suspect?

Omni pointed out the flaw in this well, just quoting this to remind me and add it to my thoughts on Shaya.

To be completely honest, I would also like to go to 600 A.D. for storyline purposes, and that creates three of us. If I get 2 more posts of agreement (looking at Omni, Edrees, Adam here), then I will cast the first vote for 600 A.D. AND I EXPECT ANYONE WHO'S TOWN TO COMPLY WITH THIS MAJORITY OR POST A SOLID REASON FOR STOPPING PROGRESS.

If that's where you want to go and are willing to lay down the first vote, why won't you straight up? Why do you feel the need to have a promised backing?
In a sense that's what I did, except instead of wanting to go to 600 AD like you, I didn't care where we went so I chose a time that had other people behind it as well.

SOC: Whatever Omni chooses that isn't 600 A.D. or 2300 A.D.. The time that comes after 600 A.D. in the CT Storyline.

PoC: 600 A.D.

Still Voting For Shadowlink

I feel like an idiot for asking this, but what's SOC and POC?

Don't need to add any more spice to this game. There's already so much flavor!

II agree, and why are people following the story line like this? We're not playing Chrono Trigger, we're playing Chrono Trigger Mafia. Do you think OS would make it so the optimal thing to do would be told to us? Obv not. Also not to mention, we know Lavos' exists right now. When the game starts, you don't know about Lavos, so why are you (everyone going story wise) starting from the beginning?

To answer your question, if town agrees to split the vote down the center, so that we can deliberately end up in EoT, and there is a player who deliberately breaks this tie, so we don't end up there, that player is not working with town, obviously.

Hey guess what, scum to us is town, so they can help agree for us to get there. What's wrong if someone as a townie feels that we shouldn't go to EoT and makes it so we dont? Are they working with everyone else? Not exactly, but are they being scummy? imo no. They aren't not working with town, they aren't working with everyone else, town + scum.

That makes you just as bad as Chibo was when he followed my vote just because of Rajam.

Marle falls through a time portal 1000A.D
Chrono follows her to 600 A.D and rescues.
They return to 1000 A.D where Chrono is arrested. They escape and go to 2300 A.D.
They then go to the End of Time (unintentionally).

What do you have against me? Why are you portraying me in a negative way? Explain more.

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Side thought, I've got a solid town read on Pierce I think. With the style of a lot of his posts doing a lot of all caps, repeating himself, bolding, etc - I feel like his discontent is coming with not liking others' ideas and being annoyed at the fact when I feel like a scum player would rather agree with everyone else the most to fit in and not force his own ideals on everyone else to stand out. However even though I think he's town, I don't agree with a lot of Pierce's views on the game and mechanics.

Really not feelin' Shaya
Vote Shaya

 

[Overswarm]

Replacement requested; if anyone would like to replace in let me know.

 

[CT Chia]

forgot to ask, nothin against u OS but can u plz step up the vote counts? while making my last post i had to go searching for vote counts and the last was like 6 or so pages ago

 

[Rajam]

FOS: Rajam

Care to explain then why you would vote for a specific time zone so preemptively? I assume everyone in the BR is pretty smart, and we all figured out that it would be relatively suspicious, as well as using a resource improperly to vote for a new timezone before anything else had happened, since you can't change your vote.

Shadowlink, don't think your vote slipped under my suspicions radar, ESPECIALLY since it was right after Omni was getting on Rajam's case, and had no clear explanation other than a very shallow, "We should go somewhere because it's better than not." I'm interested in hearing something a little less shallow from you as well.

Last time I answered this I said something like "I'm not answering this", but now that I understand the game a little more, I see no reason to look scummy on purpose, so I'll answer now:

Although this is my 1st time playing Mafia in a forum, I've played Mafia before in real life. In those times, people lynch a person just because, there is no strategy or intelligent discussion at all, people act random and scummy on purpose just to look cooler, there is mass group pressure and psichology, etc etc...
I always liked to play totally random, doing incoherent decisions with no purpose at all, I even used to vote for myself to lynch (...). That's what I did when I voted (acting random). In fact, check OS list with the players and Time Periods in the OP:

1. Adumbrodeus
2. .joel
3. ShadowLink84
4. DMG
5. Scamp
6. EdreesesPieces
7. Shaya
8. Chibo
9. Rajam
10. Omni
11. Pierce7D

Starting from Adumbredeus, count to 23: You arrive to Adumbrodeus. Check who I voted to lynch first

Pre-historic: 65,000,000,000 B.C.
Dark Ages: 12,000 B.C.
Middle Ages: 600 A.D.
Present: 1000 A.D.
Future: 2300 A.D.

Again, from the 1st time period, count to 23: You arrive to 600 A.D.
Why 23? Well that's my favourite number (...)

I now this actually doesn't mean anything in terms of pointing out if I'm Mafia or Town. I only wanted to explain my procedure (based on my random "strategy" I used to apply on real life Mafia games I've played) and pointing out that I realize there is little utility on looking scummy on purpose and also point out I'm learning the complexity of the game, where everyone should play detective and avoid scummy attitudes (that is, I realize Town's objective is to hunt scum, gather info, pressure inactives/ambiguous players, and not doing stupid things like I was doing at the beginning of the game)

 

[Rajam]

Scamp post:
I typoed when I FOS-ed Chibo. I meant to say SOF, which means he's totally clear in my opinion.

Also, when I said I would play, I didn't mean it.

I totally hate all the new players in the game.

Marc can totally live past day 1.

ShadowLink84 post:
Hey if you want to keep your reasons secret that's fine by me.
Do remember that in last game, mafia did something similar by being rather ambiguous.

Omni post:
Vote: Shadowlink

Post smells kinda' funny. I'll let you guess why.

If I'm interpreting it right, I guess I understand why Omni voted for ShadowLink, an I agree with the reasons. I'm still very suspicious of Pierce, and I can't decide my vote yet... In the meanwhile:

FOS: ShadowLink84
FOS: Scamp

 

[Overswarm]

I was pretty busy all day Friday and some of today. Regardless, just type "request votecount" and you'll get one.

Lynch Votecount:


DMG: (1) adumbrodeus,
Shadowlink (3): Pierce7d, Omni, DMG,
Shaya (1): Chibo

Time Votecount:
Middle Ages - 600 A.D. (1): Rajam
Future - 2300 A.D. (2): ShadowLink84, ChiboSempai

Day ends on Wednesday, May 26th at 3:00 PM EST
With 11 alive it takes 6 to end the day with a lynch

Let me know if I've missed anything.

Just to clarify, you cannot vote for time periods during twilight. Twilight occurs immediately after someone gets enough votes to be lynched.

 

[Rajam]

So, in twilight we can't vote for Periods of Time
We're currently traveling to 2300 A.D.

What are time preferences of the rest of the players anyways? If day 1 was to end in a few minutes, would you vote? Which time?

Also, same question for lynching: Currently, ShadowLink84 will be lynched

Would you lynch someone? Which player? (I'm asking to players who don't have a vote according to OS last post)

Since I don't have a vote, I'd have to say my vote would be a toss between Pierce or ShadowLink given what I posted recently. Since I have to pick one, I'd vote for Pierce

Opinions?

 

[Omni]

waiting until the very last second until starting a lynch process on a player isn't always the best idea. if said player, for example, makes a doc/protection claim with a character that fits the script without receiving any counterclaims it would not be wise to continue forth with that person's lynch.

the point of applying pressure and pushing a person to L-2 or L-1 (two or one votes before lynched) is to get info out of them. if they seem to be the most likely candidate then it will be obvious that they should claim before judgment is officially passed.

with that said, i think we need to push for a specific person's lynch soon rather than later just in case their name/roleclaim becomes somewhat problematic.

I am cool with skipping 600 A.D. and going to the next timeline that ISN'T EoT thus I'll choose 65 Billion (Prehistoric) for the end of this round. This will be my vote for the end of this Day.

OVERSWARM/MARC, a votecount would be nice. A nice one every 40 pages at the top of the page like most games do would be extremely helpful.

my choices are still between rajam, shadowlink, and chibo.
i like pierce.
i dont think i like shaya.
i kinda like adam.
scamp is neutral.
i dont think i like dmg.
edrees is neutral.
i dont think i like .joel.

if i had to push someone to L-1 asap i think that person would be ShadowLink and im pretty sure i have a vote on him currently. we'll see by the next vote count.

guessing u may have overlooked my last post @ chibo since it came at the end of the last page so requoting to answer your question

 

[Shaya]

Omni, I don't recall you liking me much last game either. Our play styles clash perhaps? I did point out some things that I didn't like about you in this game thus far - but it's little I could base a case on this early in the game. But I'm wondering whether or not you basing things on me are still based on mix contexts.

And I guess I have to explain to someone else again (Chibo) that pretty much the entire page was a misdirected post + a confusion (both related to shadowlink) that I didn't even notice until like a day later. Starting off with me thinking ShadowLink was replying to me (for once, considering he's only really been in a never ending circle with Pierce) because I had mentioned "inactive players" in my last post (error 1). Then my reply to that was quoting Omni to back up my claim of "why are you instantly throwing the heat onto someone else when you are being accused"; which was meant to direct towards Shadow (Error 2).

 

[Scamp]

Rajam did you just FOS me for that post?

I mean seriously....are you serious?

 

[Shaya]

I didn't throw away my connection. The things I said were: 1. I want to vote for a time period that's already been voted for. 2. I don't want to vote with Rajam since at the time I found him the scummiest and had my normal vote on him, so that left SL left and nothing else. 3. I expressed my distaste of some of SL's later posts.
I never expressed a connection with SL in the first place.

Context reference:
Maybe someone else would need to tell me otherwise here, but voting the same time period as someone else when we had already discussed the entire game up to that point that we should work out the time period together as a whole; and that both shadowlink and rajam were extremely suspicious for voting for a time period that early; and then you voting the same time period as someone "suspicious" amongst all that isn't an expressed connection?

1. So you wanted to vote a time period, like everyone else. Funnily enough you voted for a time period at the same time as stating your reasons. Amidst all of what was happening at the time you did something completely out of no where that was anti-town. Your reasoning was going against town consensus as well.

2. When at the time no one was close to being lynched, you decided to throw out a definitive and final vote?

3. Expressing distaste is easy. The fact that you aren't wanting to pressure ShadowLink for everything thus far (I don't believe you voted for him at any point), whilst he is the main focus of town, makes your "coincidence" even more odd.

After last game (Marc), I definitely don't like "experienced players" who aren't really helping town. Not to "OMGUS", but I'd prefer to lynch you over SL.

-

 

[Shaya]

I am cool with skipping 600 A.D. and going to the next timeline that ISN'T EoT thus I'll choose 65 Billion (Prehistoric) for the end of this round. This will be my vote for the end of this Day.

I said I would agree with this "deal". Prehistoric has no votes atm, and 2300AD has 2. Three of us (You, Pierce, myself) are willing to do this. Scamp inferred he was (as in fine with 600AD, but not sure about his thoughts on prehistoric).

I must john a little about my inexperience here, I'm never really sure when is a good time to vote. I've presented cases in the past with no additional vote that I've often been disappointed that they were overlooked.

SL is at L-3, and at the moment If I'm to vote SL I think I would need to couple that with the time period vote for prehistoric. Even though I think worse of Chibo, a lot of my case against him stems from SL initially. I add extra emphasis on Chibo due to his "experience" not correlating (imo) to his play this game.

Where are DMG and joel now though?

 

[Pierce7d]

Alright, some clarification seems to be needed.

I said this a few times, but I'll clear it up. I realized that it wasn't safe to accept anyone's first vote, because there's no surefire way of knowing who to trust. I realized that whatever I proposed to get around this, it couldn't involve me selecting the vote. At my time of realizing this, Omni was the person who had suggested a zone most recently, and seemed the least scummy at the moment. However, I realized that this didn't mean, "Let's trust Omni, woot!" So instead, I said for him to pick the vote, but he doesn't get his original vote, so if he had some knowledge about one particular time zone, heavy chance of his not getting his optimal choice in. Also, his reasoning seemed legit.

So, seeing as Omni had yet to cast his vote, and had fairly good backing to his choice of time, I'd let him select the time, but not let him get his initial choice. That is my reasoning for the play, and that is why I selected Omni, over anyone else.

While on this topic, I'd like to just say that if I were Mafia, I'd wait for someone to suggest the time I wanted to go to, and then jump on it. My suspicions are raised on Chibo, because while the rest of us have waited and talked out a relatively agreed upon strategy, he jumped on Chibo's vote, and I think that's pretty scummy.

Next, I was asked why I needed to wait for a backing before making my time travel vote.
DUMB QUESTION IMO. I'm obviously trying to work with the rest of town, and come up with a clear majority. We've already stated that it makes the most sense for town to be unified.
Pros of working together: Town ALWAYS controls the time we go to
Cons: Mafia can blend in.

IMO, good Mafia are already going to blend in, and create confusion on top of that. Always being able to control the time is the safest way to go about this I would say.

Notice how other people who have already voted are all getting called out on it . . . duh.

More importantly then ANY of that though, is that there hasn't been a clear majority consensus. I think now, that with me, Omni, Shaya, Scamp, and I think Edrees, we have a solid majority. Town will naturally come along with us, forcing Mafia to come along with us. Only the most stupid of town would stray away from the path, giving Mafia a chance to safely do so and being able to blend with stupid town, giving them voting control.

I think someone said I put PoC once and SoC another. Mistake. I was trying to indicate that it's where I wanted to travel. I THINK the correct one is PoC for Period of Choice.

Now, even with that all being said, I think we've got a reasonable feel for who's been acting scummy, and not much is likely to change from now until Wednesday. Also, I'm not a fan of waiting until the very last second.

I am actually very comfortable with making my time vote for prehistoric right now, but I would feel even more comfortable leading off the votes, if those who are voting prehistoric alongside me say so in their next post in blue. I just want to make sure I didn't miscount, or miss anything, etc.
That being said, I

 

[Pierce7d]

EBWOP

That last line in my previous post was intended to be erased. I generally fill in paragraphs after outlining points, and then trim or add. I don't always type in order from top to bottom, because I try to get everything in my mind out before it slips. I can't edit the line, so I thought I'd clarify.

Also, DMG was online, in the BR last night. I know, because I went to see who was reading the BR to see if I should anticipate a reply, and DMG was there. I don't think he posted then, or all day though. Hmm . . .

 

[Shaya]

Why do we need to say so in blue?

PoC: Prehistoric

 

[DMG]

Yeah I fell asleep earlier today, woke up about 15 minutes ago. Last thing I remember reading was Omni's post about how he feels.

As for time travel, we agree on going to 65,000,000 right? Cause I remember some people looking at 600 AD for awhile. Just making sure we are definitely trying to go to Prehistoric period.

 

[Pierce7d]

Just so I could find it easier Shaya, but that's pretty sufficient.

DMG, we are traveling to Prehistoric.

 

[Red Arremer]

Replacement requested; if anyone would like to replace in let me know.

Quoting this just in case (yes I am the one who wants to be replaced).

 

[Rajam]

After reading Edreeses post, I changed my mind. I was backing off the end of time because I didn't want to be accused of being Mafia for pushing it too hard, but now I'm curious.

We all decided that it would be beneficial to go somewhere, but NO ONE wants to go to the end of time except me?

I gave very solid reasons on why I wanted to visit EoT first. ALL REASONS for wanting to visit any time zone are flavor based, but I gave Shaya a non-flavor based reason why visiting EoT now is better than later. Besides Omni's "story progression logic" (which obviously has a fair possibility of being a cover) this is the ONLY reason that isn't flavor based to go anywhere.

Now, aside from me I notice two factions. A large group says that we shouldn't go to EoT because it might be a punishment zone. They feel that Overswarm's use of the word "stuck" in relation to being in the EoT, suggests that it's rather unpleasant. Another group is open to go anywhere, or has yet to comment.

Let's address that first group. Since you feel like the EoT is a punishment zone, and you don't want to check it out early game, where it is surely safer as we have strength in numbers, then I presume you have no intention of going to the EoT in the entire game?

I expect an answer to that from everyone.

Correct, I have no intentions of going to EoT, ever. Unless something tell us it could be good for Town of course. But currently, every thing points out that EoT is a punishment zone. Also, any other time seems ok to me, nothing (besides pure flavor) suggests an specific time is better than other by now.

Also, you gave solid reasons as to why we should visit EoT sooner than later, and I would agree with those reasons if it weren't by the fact that we are not forced to go to EoT in the whole game. You even did that statement based in the "EoT is a punishment zone for Town" concept, which is weirder since under that basis is 1000x times wiser to suggest to do not visit EoT at any point.

the primary reason I think the End of Time is possibly a punishment zone, is because of how the End of Time functioned.
it was the place in which your characters remained while three others ran about through time.
Meaning that more than likely, it might restrict various individuals.

Now, for those who are all "maybe its best to stay."
There is NO era in which you CANNOT fight Lavos outside of 2300 A.D.

Black Omen remember?
Appearing all the way up to 2300 A.D (where it becomes pointless because of the fact Lavos ALREADY destroyed the planet, and Queen Zeal states this.)

Even more, you can fight Lavos in 1000 A.D right off the bat with Chrono and Marle.

So keep in mind that the whole idea of saying "staying in a time period is a safe idea" actually may hurt us more, since no matter what era you were in, the threat of Lavos was ALWAYS present (outside 2300 A.D where he left his weak *** spawn).

Let alone EOT is the WORST possible place in so many ways.

Voteierce7D

Why should we go to EOT which is directly connected to Lavos, and is also the only era that has no benefits for town?
The only one's that benefit would be independent, so why are you so very intent on going there?

lol what a bunch of flavor, as many of your posts. This is also a reason to why I FOS'ed you before.

I love it how you posted a whole bunch of flavor, then threw an easy vote on me, without answering my question, and asking me a question which my entire post was based around.

We do NOT know the benefits of going to EoT, and it's a whole new type of flavor to even suggest that independents would be the only people who would benefit. We don't know that EoT is any different than any other era. We DO know that it's tricky to GET their, because we have to tie votes. We do know that ATTEMPTING to get there in late game is FAR RISKIER than doing it now. I have explained this VERY, VERY clearly, and NO ONE has yet to refute the actual logic in this. The only "counter arguments" I have received are based on FLAVOR, which you are using a lot of, and is normally considered very scummy. Not only are you using flavor, but you're BLINDLY GUESSING FLAVOR AND STATING IT AS FACT.

Again, you proceeded under the basis "EoT = Likely Bad for Town" in your advice to visit EoT sooner than later, and we're not forced to go there ever. Your advice therefore is mediocre (I insist that the best advice by far would have been never go to EoT unless some new info suggest we should), and personally I find it suspicious.

 

[Rajam]

Also to the SL post I quoted:
The last words you used there are the words Scamp used to suggest EoT benefits independents (and Mafia) more. That was the 1st time someone suggested independents could be in the game. Also, you "fought" with Scamp after that, and then you suggest the same things Scamp suggested using like the same words / ideas (???)

 

[Omni]

who are u getting to play mafia for you rajam

 

[Pierce7d]

who are u getting to play mafia for you rajam

LMAO! I was about to say, "Madu Rajam is LEAKING because that's TOO much of an improvement in gameplay for him to have come to those conclusions alone."

 

[Shaya]

He did say he would take things slow.

He said so multiple times that he's behind current posters as he decided he would be extremely meticulous; and from outside mafia he seems to be well astute.

Even though everything up to "independents" was somewhat a repeat of things said in the past. The point he brings up does add more to our suspicions of SL...

 

[Omni]

He did say he would take things slow.

He said so multiple times that he's behind current posters as he decided he would be extremely meticulous; and from outside mafia he seems to be well astute.

Even though everything up to "independents" was somewhat a repeat of things said in the past. The point he brings up does add more to our suspicions of SL...

wait, explain to this to me again

are u suggesting his entire style of play/talk has improved because he slowed down as opposed to him moving too fast in the past?

 

[Shaya]

are u suggesting his entire style of play/talk has improved because he slowed down as opposed to him moving too fast in the past?

I'm saying it's a possibility. Whilst he may be getting help from others (which may be possible), he would/should have known that it's against the rules to do so.

 

[Omni]

you forgot to explain the part in green for me

 

[Pierce7d]

Shaya, I'm not really saying that's he's getting outside help. I don't have nearly enough evidence to make such a bold accusation. However, there is no denying that the dramatic change in playstyle isn't suspicious/deserving of comment.

 

[Shaya]

Sorry Omni;

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=10332607#post10332607
Post #402 he is saying

"Sorry I got behind in the game and that's why I'm re-reading old posts. In fact in my last post i quoted stuff from posts #80 to #100"

And I believe there were a few times in which he posted thought on things from quite a bit after we had discussed it.

 

[EdreesesPieces]

Okay I've been out allll weekend, with only 2-3 minutes of time spent viewing a few posts. I apologize! However I've now gone back and read everything I've missed. I'll summarize my thoughts on everyone.

Pierce - This guy is way too excited and active and emotional to be a suspect for scum. I don't think scum would throw themselves out there THAT much....he seems really really frustrated at times at people's tendencies, for ex. his beef with Shadowlink. Not too suspicious at the moment.

Shadowlink - Seems too bent up on flavor, tends to argue a ton over a small point, though mostly with Pierce. Pretty high suspicion. Fine with his play at times, really bugged other times.

Scamp - finally Contributing as of late, not enough posts for me to get a solid grasp. not at the top of my urgency list though

Rajam - Really terrible play. Whether he's new or just plain playing a bad scum game, I wouldn't see much harm in his lynch for town. I don't see him helping town at all. All his posts are defensive rather than offensive. ...THEN SUDDENLY he changes into superman. Like Omni and Pierce, I don't buy it at all. There is a decent chance that the other mafia teammates are PMing him posts on what he should say. One of the few actual signs of scumtell (communication with other players) that I've seen...but it's true as Shaya says that we can't be certain. I still think it's a good possibility. Vote: Rajam Can u explain the change in playstyle?

Adumbrodeus - I'm gonna keep my opinions quiet on him still, will explain why in Day 2 or Day 3, it's a metaming thing and a huge difference in his play this round. If I spill it, he's gonna change it and it will be harder to track down his behavior as scummy or not. For now, not supsicious as the others I mentioned.

Omni - really really aggressive. in line with his play last game......I still don't understand his hate for chibo. I think it's a personal IRL thing. would prefer he lets that go for mafia, but nothing too suspicious.

Joel - Far more scum hunting done than several other plays. Content with this. Fact that he doesn't want to be ignored is a good thing. (ditto for Chibo)

Shaya - blends in real well, but he blendedin too well last game and because of that i killed him (as the SRK) thinking he was mafia and I was wrong. So, I think it's just his style as a player. not much suspicion but will keep an eye on his blending strategies..and what he says not to arouse too much but at the same time still contribute accusations.

DMG - Don't like his contributions at all. Pressure on shadowlink is still something that doens't sit well with me, i've seen almost no scumhunting.

Chibo - I wasn't chastizing you for not posting, I was doing it for not living up to ur promise of playing a really good game. ur doing what u did last game and, posting a decent amount just responding to random quotes or wasting ur posts. I dont' think its extremely suspicious but I had to call it out. I think the few posts recently were better. medium suspicion.

I think i got everyone

 

[Pierce7d]

Ed, you down to back the vote of prehistoric with me, Shaya, Omni, Scamp?

 

[EdreesesPieces]

Yeah im fine with that.

 

[Shaya]

There is a decent chance that the other mafia teammates are PMing him posts on what he should say. One of the few actual signs of scumtell (communication with other players) that I've seen.

Actually that wasn't in my thought process. I thought Omni was suggesting Rajam was breaking rules. It's a bit silly that I didn't consider this.

 

[Rajam]

I swear I'm playing alone. And that's what I want to do, I want to learn things by myself for this and eventually future mafia games too; all the fun is gone if I let someone give me advice or play by me. I insist I was a noob at the beginning of the game, I didn't even know how was I supposed to play given my character and goals, and instead decided to play random. I also got behind because I was reading everyone's posts super-fast, and after a time I realized how am I supposed to play: The detective way. Then I decided to re-read everything calmly, analyze a lot more and look for things that should be pointed out.

 

[CT Chia]

I really don't like the whole way people are going about this time travel voting here. Trying to get backing before stepping in. People need to step up and do what they think is right and best for the town before seeking approval first.

It's an easy way to test ideas without committing (which is good for scum), it's a good way for scum to mask themselves as townies (by following and pledging support to townies), etc.

Look at this here:

Ed, you down to back the vote of prehistoric with me, Shaya, Omni, Scamp?

I'm sure because of this Pierce is already going to have some thought bias for Edrees, Shaya, Omni, and Scamp all because they agree with him and are ready to follow in his footsteps. Now what if one of them is scum? Not good not good.

Stop giving scum chances to just get their feet wet a lil. People need to learn to jump in so we can really see players thoughts so everyone can't just parrot one another.

 

[Scamp]

When did I ever say I'd back the prehistoric vote?

 

[Overswarm]

Lynch Votecount:


DMG: (1) adumbrodeus,
Shadowlink (3): Pierce7d, Omni, DMG,
Shaya (1): Chibo
Rajam (1): EdreesesPieces

Time Votecount:
Middle Ages - 600 A.D. (1): Rajam
Future - 2300 A.D. (2): ShadowLink84, ChiboSempai

Day ends on Wednesday, May 26th at 3:00 PM EST
With 11 alive it takes 6 to end the day with a lynch

 

[Omni]

stfu, chibo.

so will u guys start voting for 65 billion. it's Monday and i'm still using my vote last.

@Shadowlink: at this rate, you're going to be lynched. any defense? i want to see a claim by the end of today if you cant convince us to look elsewhere

 

[CT Chia]

Leave it to Omni to tell me to shutup and not comment when I make real posts about gameplay and not liking how some people are doing things.