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Character Rankings List - Post-March 2010

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Shaya

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I suppose Lucas is good for characters such as those, but there are ... better characters. Its not everyday someone says a low tier is more viable than a higher tiered character they've been well known to use in the past.

all though.. Wario can have his share of problems with characters like d3 and falco
 

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I'm surprised by how high Lucas is in rankings. His posistion on the tier list would say otherwise.

Also, wasn't Lucas at the bottom just like a month ago? I could have sworn he barely even had 4 points. How did he get so high so fast?
Because nobody in the Lucas board posted their results in this thread, including myself, i thought that some of my results wouldn't count because they were from small tournaments
Reflex.

I don't know anybody else who plays Lucas who gathers tourney results other than the Reflex Wonder.
Wrong
players like Okin, Galeon, APC, Irsic and some others have given a lot of point to Lucas, since last year, Reflex results are new, i didn't even know he uses Lucas. (Props to Reflex <3)
Lucas boards have improved a lot, and really fast, posting tournament results here is just an example of the improvement.
Really, if you are surprised about Lucas rise, wait for the next update :)
 

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Forgive me, I did not keep up-to-date with Lucas' results, and the only results I've seen/recall where Reflex's results in which he had to have Lucas share the spotlight with a couple of other characters.

But I do suppose if he says there are other people besides him, and of course you, then that's cool. It's just I didn't see anybody consistently posting results for Lucas, so it was just like a "ah hey look at this!

...Okay that's done with, let's move on now huh? What do other people have."

I'm not surprised at any character jumping anywhere, it's just people say something about it, so I feel like making a post.
 

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I suppose Lucas is good for characters such as those, but there are ... better characters. Its not everyday someone says a low tier is more viable than a higher tiered character they've been well known to use in the past.

all though.. Wario can have his share of problems with characters like d3 and falco
Lol we wreck Dedede and I think we have the advantage overall on Falco. I'm more worried about Marth at this point, and even then the matchup is closer than most people think.

I am however surprised at this recent surge in people being interested in using Wario more and more now. Now we just need those Wario's to go wreck Snake and steal his points lol.
 

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Liez.

The matchup is like 55-45 DeDeDe favor and if Wario gets grabbed he gets gay'd son.
No; when people are ridiculously boring and run away for eight minutes, all Wario needs to do is get the percent lead and that's it...at least, it forces Dedede to approach, which puts Wario at a pretty nice advantage.
 

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Dedede can also get a percent lead and just run away and camp too; that works both ways. I actually took a game off one of the better Wario's around here by doing just that and letting the game go to time at a tourney last week. Dedede actually has better tools to get that lead, Wario is just better at keeping the lead, if he can get it.

It doesn't matter what character (MK excluded) we're talking about; if you have to approach then you're at a disadvantage, and Dedede at least has a projectile.
 

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well imo, warios all play ****ing ******** now, i really don't agree with "lets hit them once and then run away for 8 minutes" it really should be stalling.
 

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Don't group all Warios into the camping pile, please. I do perfectly fine for myself without resorting to such tactics.

Mizumi-con (03/21)
46 Entrants, $10 Entry Fee
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=226958

1: Infinity ($301.00) - MK
2: Espy ($86.00) - Sonic
3: Sethlon ($43.00) - Sheik
4: Hylian - GW
5: TakeUrLife - Marth
5: Phantom X - Wario
7: Mandingo - Snake
7: Phoenix Alpha - Lucas
 

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No; when people are ridiculously boring and run away for eight minutes, all Wario needs to do is get the percent lead and that's it...at least, it forces Dedede to approach, which puts Wario at a pretty nice advantage.
Dang you called me out and called it boring :( but yeah Dedede does kinda suffer to this.

Dedede can also get a percent lead and just run away and camp too; that works both ways. I actually took a game off one of the better Wario's around here by doing just that and letting the game go to time at a tourney last week. Dedede actually has better tools to get that lead, Wario is just better at keeping the lead, if he can get it.

It doesn't matter what character (MK excluded) we're talking about; if you have to approach then you're at a disadvantage, and Dedede at least has a projectile.

Nu uh, Dedede can't run away nearly as good as Wario can. Ever.

Dedede's projectile is nearly useless/irrelevant towards stopping Wario.


well imo, warios all play ****ing ******** now, i really don't agree with "lets hit them once and then run away for 8 minutes" it really should be stalling.
Lol dang not everyone plays like that, unless all of these wins for Wario's are because they just decided to run a bit more.


Haha... Anth0ny and Reflex have cool avatars. I wonder who has the 3rd gen or 4th gen rivals...

In 3rd gen who IS the rival? Wally or Steven or Brendan/May or what? Ahaha.
Brendan/May are the rivals for RSE/3rd generation. Wally is for 4th generation I think.
 

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well i don't personally know every wario, but every single wario i've played does it and you have no idea how irritating it is.
 

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well i don't personally know every wario, but every single wario i've played does it and you have no idea how irritating it is.
Who in Iowa plays as him? I remember playing Brown Paper Sack from Missouri, but I didn't see any Wario mains from Iowa at No Koast, unless I confused him occasionally for BPS.

And PX Peach not that bad lol. :)
 

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Who in Iowa plays as him? I remember playing Brown Paper Sack from Missouri, but I didn't see any Wario mains from Iowa at No Koast, unless I confused him occasionally for BPS.

And PX Peach not that bad lol. :)
theres a couple wario mains in iowa, but only 6 of us got to make it to no koast, so we decided to take our best 6, and then i was watching alot of matches of quick's wario and its the gayest wario i've ever seen lol, also a couple warios in minnesota, but i didn't notice anything too special about them.

but yeah, i guess u warios gotta do what u do since u basically get screwed out of nearly everybodies grab.
 

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You obv ain't seen no DMG Wario.

There's two styles of Wario: DMG style and then Fiction/PX style. Quik fits into the former :p
actually i saw DMG's wario at NO KOAST, and it was probably one of the best that i've seen, i didn't get to play any friendlies with him tho =/ i didn't really get too many friendlies at all at no koast tho, i was about to die cuz i was up for like 48+ hours strait before lol.
 

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Oh dang lol...

Well, pick up Marth, really hard to play gay against him, which is why I usually just Dair them until they die. :)

Also, I totally predicted that Dedede would drop once people realized how easy he is for other characters to camp.
 

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Oh dang lol...

Well, pick up Marth, really hard to play gay against him, which is why I usually just Dair them until they die. :)

Also, I totally predicted that Dedede would drop once people realized how easy he is for other characters to camp.
im actually picking up marth as my secondary for peach, since i hate playing Lolimar now that they have figured out how to play peach, also falco and snake are gay matchups too.
 

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May I post Tournament results from other Yoshi mains?

Since in the end, it's all about bringing Yoshi up and repping him.

*Edit* I don't see the harm. Here are some results. I have been given permission to post them.

C3 Cyberclub 3-21. 25+ entrants.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=6988483&posted=1#post6988483

1: Omni - Bowser
2: Candy - Wolf
3: G-regulate - Jigglypuff
4: Alpha Zealot - Diddy
5: Esoj - Diddy/MK
5: Meep - ICs
7: lil b - Yoshi
7: Forte - Peach
 

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ventura friday weekly, 5$ buy in, 17 entrants 3/20/09

1. SomeRandomKid - DK/R.O.B.
2. Junkinthetrunk - Marth/DDD
3. Bigfoot - DK/Bowser
4. Zork - Snake/Wario
5. Dantarion - Snake/DK
5. Mio - Gdubs
7. Oscar - Marth/Bowser/Yoshi (yoshi was only once in the first round though)
7. Dragulze - Marth
 

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May I post Tournament results from other Yoshi mains?

Since in the end, it's all about bringing Yoshi up and repping him.

*Edit* I don't see the harm. Here are some results. I have been given permission to post them.

C3 Cyberclub 3-21. 25+ entrants.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=6988483&posted=1#post6988483

1: Omni - Bowser
2: Candy - Wolf
3: G-regulate - Jigglypuff
4: Alpha Zealot - Diddy
5: Esoj - Diddy/MK
5: Meep - ICs
7: lil b - Yoshi
7: Forte - Peach
already posted, a lot of those odd characters where used only once or twice and don't count. For example, Omni used Bowser once, MK the rest of the time.
 

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It might get on peoples nerves if you don't get their permission to post their tourney results and you do it anyway...

Otherwise Sonic would have another placing or two right now.
 

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It might get on peoples nerves if you don't get their permission to post their tourney results and you do it anyway...

Otherwise Sonic would have another placing or two right now.
Uh, no offense, but by competing in the tournaments and posting on SWF, you are making the information public, whether you like it or not. Nobody has any right to tell someone else what they can and can't post. It's not like we're posting harmful personal attacks here, just where they placed in a tournament that they chose to go to.
 

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Wario getting a percentage/stock lead ever is infinitely bad. My Falco once got wrecked because I suicided, and Falco trying to approach Wario (whodathunkit) is impossible ;_;.

D3 has an easier time getting a crap load of damage up on Wario once he gets a grab, it's still technically in many aspects a D3 advantage. Camping it out works though, if only D3 could shoot out gordos 80% of the time :p

I don't see many solutions for wario vs Marth, Marth having the good speed and aerial mobility (compared to MK) plus the grab release shenanigans screws Wario bad. Still doesn't make the match up easy, actually getting a hit is troublesome, but at least Wario struggles to hit you as well.
 

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Wario getting a percentage/stock lead ever is infinitely bad. My Falco once got wrecked because I suicided, and Falco trying to approach Wario (whodathunkit) is impossible ;_;.

D3 has an easier time getting a crap load of damage up on Wario once he gets a grab, it's still technically in many aspects a D3 advantage. Camping it out works though, if only D3 could shoot out gordos 80% of the time :p

I don't see many solutions for wario vs Marth, Marth having the good speed and aerial mobility (compared to MK) plus the grab release shenanigans screws Wario bad. Still doesn't make the match up easy, actually getting a hit is troublesome, but at least Wario struggles to hit you as well.
Yeah Falco does have a hard time approaching. If you are down a stock, it's near impossible since it's even harder trying to kill Wario when he's running around.

Dedede... Meh his projectiles stink. If you are close enough to hit him with it without him being able to jump/airdodge/shield in time, then he is probably close enough to where if you miss you will get really messed up.

Marth was and always will be not easy for Wario, I don't see it as worse than 6/4 though, and even vs someone like Roy R it's not uncommon for me to win a match or two by a huge margin or win a lot of them by a smaller margin.
 

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already posted, a lot of those odd characters where used only once or twice and don't count. For example, Omni used Bowser once, MK the rest of the time.
I don't care about any other results. Someone could use a transgendered Captain Falcon for all I care. I'm posting Yoshi results, which are legit.

Oh dam, who got that top 8 for Bowser?
Omni.
 
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