JOJONumber691
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And is referenced in Smash by Sakurai. Point stands.That's from Nintendo themselves, though since Reggie was still working for them at that time.
That doesn't really make a difference here. Smash has memes referenced. it's just part of what it is. One thing being a meme will not change it possibly being referenced.Those were just pictures and he usually posts those on his Twitter account if I'm not mistaken.
In this case, it's about trailers. When it come to character trailers, they always make references to the series that they're from. They can reference Doom Slayer's love for his pet rabbit but Pikachu and Pichu fit that much better due to their looks and roles in their series while Daisy has the name reference. Isabelle lives a lifestyle like a regular human in her series, so her being referenced as a cute pet is just really awkward to me. There's just no real connection there compared to other characters.
But it's by Nintendo, so that's a different story.And is referenced in Smash by Sakurai. Point stands.
It would, though. Like I said, you put the bunny hat on Daisy herself with Doom Slayer standing next to her, people would get the reference immediately. It really doesn't matter if Daisy is not a cute animal or that he would know her name. It's a reference that fans of the series would be able to pick up on. Anybody would be like "Daisy...and she's wearing a rabbit hat? Oh! I get it! It's a reference to his pet rabbit whose name was Daisy." Clever references like that.That doesn't really make a difference here. Smash has memes referenced. it's just part of what it is. One thing being a meme will not change it possibly being referenced.
They're popular together for actual reasons that aren't a meme. I already explained that. Daisy isn't an animal or a cute fuzzy fur creature. There's no reason for them to bother with her. It'd be actual animal creatures, humanoid or not, that make sense for Doomslayer to actually get along with. Isabelle is also a major popular character and has yet to be in a trailer, and it makes a lot of sense for them to use her in it, as the characters are, again, very popular together. That's what actually matters for trailers, having fun. Not extreme stretches like just having the "name" of the character(he wouldn't even known who Daisy is. They have zero potential connections in that regard). Who said anything about Isabelle being referenced as a cute pet? You're the only one making it sound like that. It's him seeing people in trouble, who are all cute and fuzzy, something he'd definitely protect as part of his character. That's actually what people are talking about as an idea for the trailer. At the end seeing Isabelle and Doomslayer get along and give a high five is just a fun thing to do anyway. And more the one little thing I personally want to see. Cause I actually like seeing them together. It's cute and fits them both extremely well. I mean, if they really want to add bonus points, they could throw Bunny Ears on Pikachu, PIchu, and Isabelle. But really, there's no rabbits in Smash anyway(only a Mii costume), so... it's not like that would work as a straight reference either way.
Smash does have **** like say, Steve's meat taunt which is a meme in Japan, the Xeno characters each have a meme in their taunts, Smash 4 had a Metroid Crawl meme, etc.I don't recall any memes being referenced in Smash.
I think other characters would fit that better than Isabelle. There's characters like Pikachu and Pichu (both could fit the cute pet-type) and then there's another character who just happens to be named Daisy. Put the bunny hat on her and people familiar with Doom would get the reference very easily.
I’d say both Doomguy and Duke Nukem take the cake, but yeah between the two I guess Doomguy would probably take the nº1 spot on that.I think he's got more history on Nintendo than any other character in the genre.
Maybe a Spirit of BJ Blazkowicz. I don’t see much else they can go with. For moveset I think it’d be more fitting if they were to give a gun from Quake to Doomguy, since Doom and Quake have more similar themes, and Doomguy was playable in Quake III.Since DOOM and Wolfenstein are basically the grandfathers of the FPS genre, do you think there is a good way to implement elements of that style in either Doomguy’s moveset or stage? The closest we really have is some Final Smash attacks and a few of Duck Hunt’s moves. I’m not really sure what the best way to go about that is.
Oh I didn’t really mean to use elements from other games, just the gameplay style of FPS games in general. An example is Snake’s Final Smash where he targets opponents with a crosshair to fire grenades. Something along those lines might make for a fun Final Smash at least but I’m not sure if we could do more with that concept.I’d love Doomguy. Given his history with Nintendo and the rather colorful and cartoony nature from his games (more specifically the old ones) I think he’d fit well. I also believe they can give proper representation to Doom even with no gore or pentagrams. A stage based on areas like these should work just fine:
It’s true that Doomguy is one hell of a beast (no pun intended), but I’m pretty sure that Sakurai is definitely able to safely tone him down without it feeling too forced and create a pretty unique moveset based on his inventory of really heavy weaponry. Besides since the use of real guns seems to be less and less of a problem with Nintendo lately when it comes to Smash, I don’t think Sakurai would shy away from the non-lazer weapons like the pistol, the super shotgun or the machine gun. Maybe the chainsaw can be used for his forward Smash move.
As for his design, I’m afraid I happen to be one of the few guys who hates the armor design from the new games and much prefers the og one as the default. I mean if not for the amiibo I wouldn’t really mind having the classic one as only a few alts.
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I’d say both Doomguy and Duke Nukem take the cake, but yeah between the two I guess Doomguy would probably take the nº1 spot on that.
Maybe a Spirit of BJ Blazkowicz. I don’t see much else they can go with. For moveset I think it’d be more fitting if they were to give a gun from Quake to Doomguy, since Doom and Quake have more similar themes, and Doomguy was playable in Quake III.
Oh I see. Well maybe his FS could be cinematic and have a First Person perspective (maybe the UI from the original games as well to really capture that retro FPS vibe) with Doomguy shooting the BFG at the opponent.Oh I didn’t really mean to use elements from other games, just the gameplay style of FPS games in general. An example is Snake’s Final Smash where he targets opponents with a crosshair to fire grenades. Something along those lines might make for a fun Final Smash at least but I’m not sure if we could do more with that concept.
Yeah, that sound like a fun idea. Maybe there could be some stage specific items like some of the more over the top guns from DOOM the characters could use if they made it to the secret area.Oh I see. Well maybe his FS could be cinematic and have a First Person perspective (maybe the UI from the original games as well to really capture that retro FPS vibe) with Doomguy shooting the BFG at the opponent.
However if you wanna expand on that old school FPS feel, since one of the most memorable things about those games are the unforgettable secret areas, what if Doom’s stage had that element? Like it had to be a big stage of course, but then you’d have walls where if you kick them they lead you to a place with random Smash Brothers collectables and once you get there you’d have a message saying “secret area found”? Idk that’s the best I could come up with. I think it would certainly help capture the feel of a classic fps game, and it would help bringing some uniqueness to the stage since Sakurai said that’s one of the things he looks most forward to when choosing DLC characters.
Now that’d be awesome. Man, if only DLC characters came with items. I could also see the soulsphere being used to restore 100 hp to the player.Yeah, that sound like a fun idea. Maybe there could be some stage specific items like some of the more over the top guns from DOOM the characters could use if they made it to the secret area.
So, a Maxim Tomato reskin? Personally, I'd go with the Doom Powerups like Quad Damage and the super speed stuffNow that’d be awesome. Man, if only DLC characters came with items. I could also see the soulsphere being used to restore 100 hp to the player.
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Pretty much but it’d be exclusive to the Doom stage, specifically its hypothetical secret areas that we were talking about. Of course there’s a lot you can expand on. Maybe even have the health bonus potions, even if they’d pretty much be just a reskin from the food items in Smash.So, a Maxim Tomato reskin? Personally, I'd go with the Doom Powerups like Quad Damage and the super speed stuff
I picked Mars from the 2016 Doom game since it doesn't have religious references or grotesque features. Plus, I'm not mistaken, some parts of that stage can be used platforms too.people peole might i suggest agreeing to disagree. come now let us move this discussion along. have we covered stage ideas yet?
That's kind of similar to my idea for his reveal trailer. The only differences is that my idea had Fox, Falco, and Samus fighting against either one enemy like Ridley or a group of enemies like the possessed Smash characters.What do you all think would be Doomguy's reveal trailer?
I've shared this a few times in other threads but I got the idea of his trailer being a sequel to Hero's. When it starts out, you see the 4 heroes exhausted and still surrounded by the possessed Smashers. Suddenly you see people being taken out within the crowd. Some are thrown into the air, you hear shotgun blasts going off, and yet you don't clearly see who is doing the rampaging. Then, the newcomer goes on a cliff, jumps down, and lands on top of one of the possessed characters. The camera shows the guy's feet and then it tilts up while he is switching out to a different gun to reveal who it is.
"The Doom Marine rips and tears!"
while At Doom's Gate plays
Yes but also not necessarily?I take it that Ichiban's delusions mean that he can potentially have goofier stuff than Kiryu when it comes to his moves?
i thought the games were always set in the same place?What specific part of Tokyo would Ichiban come with as a stage? I mean, considering how big the city is, it makes you wonder which one they'd settle with.
I think the Millenium Tower would make the most sense as a stage, it's consistently one of the most important locations in the series.What specific part of Tokyo would Ichiban come with as a stage? I mean, considering how big the city is, it makes you wonder which one they'd settle with.
Ijincho, Yokohama is the main setting of Yakuza 7What specific part of Tokyo would Ichiban come with as a stage? I mean, considering how big the city is, it makes you wonder which one they'd settle with.
They are not! Yes, Kamurocho is the most recurring location, but there are often other cities present in the series as mainstays, such as Sotenbori or the setting of YLAD, Yokohama.i thought the games were always set in the same place?
well then I misunderstood the videos I’ve seen about themThey are not! Yes, Kamurocho is the most recurring location, but there are often other cities present in the series as mainstays, such as Sotenbori or the setting of YLAD, Yokohama.
wait ive gotten toad that high already?Whoops! I missed a notification once and therefore fell behind... Lemme catch up. Oh, but first, work before pleasure...
75+ noms
Velvet Crowe - x110
Tsubasa Oribe - x105
Octoling - x97
Rintarou Okabe - x95
Brian - x95
Axel Stone - x90
Endo Mamoru - x90
Toad - x85
Black Mage - x85
Alm - x80
50-75 noms
Shovel Knight - x75
Ryu Hayabusa - x75
Filia (Skullgirls) - x70
Ori - x70
Hearthstone Innkeeper - x65
Isaac (Golden Sun) - x65
Heavy - x60
Goomba/Goombella - x55
26-50 noms
Bubsy - x50
Vectorman - x45
Carmen Sandiego - x45
Crypto - x45
2B - x40
God Eater Rep - x35
Jonesy - x32
Wilfre - x30
Wadanohara* - x30
Zero Escape Rep - x30
Jason Frudnick - x30
Sly Cooper - x28
Trauma Center Content - x28
11-25 noms
Chun-Li - x25
Meowth - x25
Dart Monkey (Bloons) - x25
Master Hand - x20
Mega Man X - x20
Morrigan - x20
Daitoryo - x20
Darkest Dungeon Content - x11
5-10 noms
Gunvolt - x10
FEH Summoner - x10
Jack (Final Fantasy Origin) - x5
Scizor - x5
Carl Johnson - x5
SMT Content - x5
Frogger - x5
Ezio - x5
9-volt - x5
Nathan Drake - x5
Ahri - x5
Spyro the Dragon - x3
Tracer - x3
Chell - x3
Anyway, I've seen people invoke Ichiban's delusions before... How do you think that would impact his reveal trailer? Is he really getting into Smash, or is it all in his head?
5-10 noms a day doesn't take too long to add up!wait ive gotten toad that high already?
I think, if his main costume is his Hero costume (the first one pictured here), it would have to be some level of delusion as he only sees himself in his Hero costume when in battle. What can I say, the guy has an overactive imagination!Anyway, I've seen people invoke Ichiban's delusions before... How do you think that would impact his reveal trailer? Is he really getting into Smash, or is it all in his head?
Ahhhhhhh, interesting! I would enjoy the implication that all of Smash Bros is actually the delusion/dream of Ichiban. We get to find out whose room the Smash 64 opening was taking place in! He does seem like a very fun character; I have been meaning to get into Like a Dragon, but, uh, there are finite hours in the day, unfortunately...I think, if his main costume is his Hero costume (the first one pictured here), it would have to be some level of delusion as he only sees himself in his Hero costume when in battle. What can I say, the guy has an overactive imagination!
I actually think it would be SUPER funny to make his trailer a dream! I don't want to say too much due to spoilers, but he HAS been known to have hefty delusions while in his dreams including one major cutscene, so a whole trailer where he is talking about how excited he is to be in Smash and to see everyone, all while the other party members are weighing in incredulously, would be adorable. It would end with him waking up as a reference to the scene in question, you see him talking in his sleep about Smash, and then his party members are there to greet him. Cue the "And you were there! And you, and you..."
By the way, if someone could tag me on Okabe's day that'd be wonderful! Also, have we discussed a Dishonored rep yet? I missed the RTC day which was upsetting but it's a series I'd love to get into the conversation.