Character Discussion Thread

[Deleted member]

I have this dread feeling that Wolf will be cut, i will not sleep well tonight.

Relax, I'm sure he'll be there.

 

[TumblrFamous]

I must say, I'm a little greedy. I kinda want a veteran reveal. Like, I know we probably won't get one this month, but it'd be a pleasant surprise.

 

[False Sense]

I must say, I'm a little greedy. I kinda want a veteran reveal. Like, I know we probably won't get one this month, but it'd be a pleasant surprise.

Maybe it's possible that we could see a reveal of Mr. Game&Watch sooner than we would think? After all, he did get quite a tease in Pac-Man's reveal trailer. I'm sure many people are dying to see him now.

 

[Bowserlick]

I would not mind one veteran each month and one newcomer in August. Seems fair.

Just give us Game and Watch this week already.

 

[Andinus]

I have this dread feeling that Wolf will be cut, i will not sleep well tonight.

I'd have to agree with you. If Lucas or Ness are considered for being cut (presumable because of their similarities), I would wager pretty highly that either Wolf or Falco is going bye-bye, and I bet on Wolf.
Plus, I will be pretty insulted if they cut Mother down to one rep, and yet Starfox gets to keep all three despite their similarities to each other. Seriously looking at rosters with the all Starclones, and just only Ness make me puke in my mouth a little.

 

[Oblivion129]

I feel like G&W isn't revealed because he'll be an unlockable. I'd expect Wario, MK, or Ice Climbers revealed instead.

 

[domokl]

The css would still look nice with 51 characters so I don't want o hear it

 

[Weeman]

I'd have to agree with you. If Lucas or Ness are considered for being cut (presumable because of their similarities), I would wager pretty highly that either Wolf or Falco is going bye-bye, and I bet on Wolf.
Plus, I will be pretty insulted if they cut Mother down to one rep, and yet Starfox gets to keep all three despite their similarities to each other. Seriously looking at rosters with the all Starclones, and just only Ness make me puke in my mouth a little.

Well i can't say i agree, but that's probably because i love all the Star Fox characters, but of course Lucas getting cut would make me sad too.

 

[Kenith]

I hope Mr. Game & Watch gets redesigned to look like he did in Pac-Man's trailer (with an outline, of course)

I know it's subtle, but it makes him look a lot more faithful to the Game & Watch games.

 

[Cobalsh]

I must say, I'm a little greedy. I kinda want a veteran reveal. Like, I know we probably won't get one this month, but it'd be a pleasant surprise.

"You wanted a veteran so close to E3? Here's Pichu. Mewtwo and Jigglypuff will only be in the game as trophies."




That day would be somewhat glorious.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

"You wanted a veteran so close to E3? Here's Pichu. Mewtwo and Jigglypuff will only be in the game as trophies."

Of course! Pichu is by far the most heavily requested character and is going to get a Mega Evolution in the upcoming 2015 game Pokemon Pichu Power and the anime that is soon to follow it.

Spoiler

 

[AncientTobacco]

I hope Mr. Game & Watch gets redesigned to look like he did in Pac-Man's trailer (with an outline, of course)

I know it's subtle, but it makes him look a lot more faithful to the Game & Watch games.

There was a difference besides the outline?

 

[Deleted member]

Of course! Pichu is by far the most heavily requested character and is going to get a Mega Evolution in the upcoming 2015 game Pokemon Pichu Power and the anime that is soon to follow it.

Wrong. Spiky-Eared Pichu and Pichu will get Megas. Pichu's alternate in Smash 4 will be Spiky-Eared Pichu as a teaser.

 

[Kenith]

There was a difference besides the outline?

 

[AncientTobacco]

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...I prefer the Brawl design. Those ball-shaped hands don't look good.

 

[Kenith]

...I prefer the Brawl design. Those ball-shaped hands don't look good.

I prefer the newer look, it is actually more faithful to the actual art of the Game & Watch.

 

[AncientTobacco]

I prefer the newer look, it is actually more faithful to the actual art of the Game & Watch.

Where in this "actual art" are his hands circles? I'm looking at different pictures and that doesn't seem to be the case in any Game and Watch games.

 

[Kenith]

Where in this "actual art" are his hands circles? I'm looking at different pictures and that doesn't seem to be the case in any Game and Watch games.

Why are you so fixated on circle-hands? I'm talking about the general shape.

 

[NintenRob]

A theory and analysis of the smash bros roster
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-wii-u/69464105

 

[AncientTobacco]

Why are you so fixated on circle-hands? I'm talking about the general shape.

Because the circle hands are the only thing I don't like. Everything else looks fine.

Look, they even turn into their proper shape when he rings the bell. I have no idea why they're circles when he's just standing there.

 

[NintenRob]

I doubt that is G&W in game model.

Where is the outline? This appears to be a insert from a paint program.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

So here's a fun topic. Assuming Chrom is not a clone, who do you think will be more hated-Chrom or the Chorus Kids?

 

[Spinosaurus]

So here's a fun topic. Assuming Chrom is not a clone, who do you think will be more hated-Chrom or the Chorus Kids?

Either way, the hate will be unjustified.

I hate Chrom but I think his inclusion is warranted considering the game he's from.

 

[Kenith]

So here's a fun topic. Assuming Chrom is not a clone, who do you think will be more hated-Chrom or the Chorus Kids?

Chorus Kids.

Not a single doubt it would go over just like Wii Fit Trainer, except a million times worse.

 

[YoshiandToad]

So here's a fun topic. Assuming Chrom is not a clone, who do you think will be more hated-Chrom or the Chorus Kids?

Chorus Kids.

Chrom's an anime swordsman. The majority will flock to him like he's catnip. Plus I guess Awakening did prevent Fire Emblem from being killed off, so many more would of played Awakening than Rhythm Heaven.

 

[Tr1pleDee]

So here's a fun topic. Assuming Chrom is not a clone, who do you think will be more hated-Chrom or the Chorus Kids?

Chorus Kids. It will basically be WFT 2.0.

Everyone will hate them, and then they will slowly start loving them to the point you have to turn on safesearch on google images.

As for Chrom, I don't think most casual gamers will care. They don't seem to complain about clones or over-representation, so to them he'll be "cool anime guy with sword."

 

[Spinosaurus]

Chrom's an anime swordsman. The majority will flock to him like he's catnip. Plus I guess Awakening did prevent Fire Emblem from being killed off, so many more would of played Awakening than Rhythm Heaven.

Rhythm Heaven series as a whole sold better than Awakening.

Actually, Rhythm Heaven DS alone sold better than Awakening, the game where Chorus Kids are from...so not really.

 

[AncientTobacco]

I think a more accurate comparison to Chorus Kids would be R.O.B, who is still hated to this day.

 

[Tr1pleDee]

Rhythm Heaven series as a whole sold better than Awakening.

Actually, Rhythm Heaven DS alone sold better than Awakening, the game where Chorus Kids are from...so not really.

While thats true, still not everybody knows about Rhythm Heaven. None of my friends have even heard of the franchise. The appearance of FE characters will probably be more likeable to the unaware.

So to blind consumers, Chrom will be the cool anime swordsman, but the Chorus Kids will be "3 singing ******* running around in bowties."

 

[Deleted member]

As a casual consumer at the time Brawl came out, R.O.B. was a robot. Robots are freaking awesome. All arguments against R.O.B. and other "out there" choices invalid.

Plus you forget to mention they are the three cute ******* running around in bowties. Cuteness sells.

 

[Spinosaurus]

While thats true, still not everybody knows about Rhythm Heaven. None of my friends have even heard of the franchise. The appearance of FE characters will probably be more likeable to the unaware.

So to blind consumers, Chrom will be the cool anime swordsman, but the Chorus Kids will be "3 singing ******* running around in bowties."

I don't think anecdotal evidence will get us anywhere. I can easily say that my family know of Chorus Kids because they know Rhythm Heaven, but don't even know who Marth is. My friends know neither.

Blind consumers don't care about anime characters, trust me. Chorus Kids aren't any different from Kirby either, who is popular despite his simplistic appearance because he's cute. There's also the fact that Rhythm Heaven DS attracted more consumers with Chorus Kids on the box art than Awakening did with all those cool anime people. We don't have data to say anything for sure, except sales.

 

[Tr1pleDee]

I don't think anecdotal evidence will get us anywhere. I can easily say that my family know of Chorus Kids because they know Rhythm Heaven, but don't even know who Marth is. My friends know neither.

Blind consumers don't care about anime characters, trust me. Chorus Kids aren't any different from Kirby either, who is popular despite his simplistic appearance because he's cute. There's also the fact that Rhythm Heaven DS attracted more consumers with Chorus Kids on the box art than Awakening did with all those cool anime people. We don't have data to say anything for sure, except sales.

You make some good points. My statement must have been a bit biased seeing how the people in my area all seem to love anime.

But I suppose we'll just have to wait until the actual reveal to see how the public reacts.

 

[Spinosaurus]

But I suppose we'll just have to wait until the actual reveal to see how the public reacts.

Actually, we can't exactly know the reception towards them for sure in the grand schemes of things. Wii Fit Trainer is actually pretty well liked from what I've seen, everyone I know think she's a cool addition despite this place thinking otherwise.

If we're talking message boards though...then yeah, Chorus Kids won't be liked initially. Maybe everyone will warm up to them, maybe not. I think their cute appearance will help win over the general consumer, but I don't wanna generalize.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I won't hate the Chorus Kids. But I will simply not care for them, unless they are extremely fun.

 

[Tr1pleDee]

Actually, we can't exactly know the reception towards them for sure in the grand schemes of things. Wii Fit Trainer is actually pretty well liked from what I've seen, everyone I know think she's a cool addition despite this place thinking otherwise.

If we're talking message boards though...then yeah, Chorus Kids won't be liked initially. Maybe everyone will warm up to them, maybe not. I think their cute appearance will help win over the general consumer, but I don't wanna generalize.

I feel character reception in general is a hard topic to speculate on. Smash has a fanbase of millions, whom live across the globe and all think differently. Only a small fraction of those people share thoughts on the internet.

Some people will love the Chorus Kids. Some will hate them. Some people won't care. Same goes for Chrom. You can't really 'predict' the opinions of people and their various thought processes.

Bringing up the topic of message boards, I feel it depends on the site. Alot of people on smashboards tend to at least accept the chorus men, while sometimes on gamefaqs I still see a few haters and people in denial. (Of course this is my experience, I've also seen the exact opposite occur)

 

[Staarih]

I'm thinking that the Chorus Men would have a much more positive welcome if we didn't know they were coming. Rumors are rumors, yeah, but it still looks very likely that they're going to be in the game. I mean, if they had been revealed as a surprise, sort of like Wii Fit Trainer, most of us would be like "ok, that's weird, but sort of cool" and just have to accept it at that point, no other choices. But now, during this waiting time, people have created specific expectations of the character, basically being "a bad choice of a character", much like with the Mii's at first. But we have no idea how the Chorus Men will work out. Who knows how awesome of a character the Chorus Men shall be.

Not saying that I'm super pumped for their possible inclusion, but now that the Sal leak is becoming pretty likely, I've opened up to the idea and honestly am interested in seeing what the Chorus Men have in store for us. And like I mentioned in a previous post, they also help introduce a sort of "low-profile" game franchise to us, which is bound to get more attention through their playability in Smash. At least I'm interested in Rhythm Heaven already!

 

[Tr1pleDee]

Moving the thread along, what do you think of K Rool's chances?

I think Bamco working on the game increases his chances. The last Mario game they worked on was Sluggers, which coincidentally is the last game K. Rool was in. I know Sakurai still makes the decisions, but Bamco might have some influence. Plus, he had a trophy in Brawl, so its not like he is completely forgotten.

So far we've seen Kremlings in Smash Run and a rumored Chunky Kong assist trophy.
Thoughts?

 

[ElPanandero]

Im an FE fan so I obviously want Chrom (Though lords were never my favorite, but that's a moot point) but of all the newcomers (and some veterans) whose series I don't care about, the chorus kids seem kind of fun. I've never played RH and I don't know anything about them, but they seem unique enough, and something about them seems cool to me. There's a few characters I'd be sad to see not make it so they can, but only a couple. Way less pumped about Shulk >.>\

EDIT: As for the Krool talk, I think he's done. Dixie was planned for brawl ahead of him, the series isn't that popular anymore, and the time to put him in was Melee or Brawl, he missed his opportunity IMO

 

[shinhed-echi]

I really don't care for Chorus kids. And even less about Chrom.
I'm however grateful that Little Mac and Megaman are in. They're all I care about. Oh, and the fact that Sonic's back. And that I play as Samus in every SSB game, so I have at least 4 to look forward to playing as.

And then there's Pacman who looks absolutely fun to use, and Miis where I can show off custom characters from other (3rd party) franchises that I could only dream of seeing in.

I already have a lot of options to be saddened by an unwanted inclusion. But the possible lack of suprise factor will probably kill these reveals for me. I know I have only myself to blame for spoiling them myself.

 

[Tr1pleDee]

EDIT: As for the Krool talk, I think he's done. Dixie was planned for brawl ahead of him, the series isn't that popular anymore, and the time to put him in was Melee or Brawl, he missed his opportunity IMO

If I remember correctly Sakurai said something about reviving old characters. Seeing how he views character requests, I'm sure he's at least seen the suggestion.

Of course, with Tropical Freeze, Dixie is the prime candidate for a DK newcomer, but I dont think things are over for the croc just yet.