Character Discussion Thread

[Frostwraith]

Don't do this.

I merely state the facts as they are. Nothing more, nothing less.

Whether people are hurt by the truth or not... That is not of my concern.

 

[Kenith]

Don't talk about any Zelda characters but Impa, that's an official order.
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Whoa, is that Cloud Strife??

 

[FalKoopa]

Don't do this.

Don't do this.
AKA use smaller images.

 

[Roberto zampari]

Hey everyone, what do you think about THIS:

RED ASH: THE INEDIBLE LEGEND (Not to be confused Red and Ash as the pokemon characters)
Why don't put Beck in Smash?
It's because of the two kickstarters (game and anime).

 

[YoshiandToad]

Hey everyone, what do you think about THIS:

RED ASH: THE INEDIBLE LEGEND (Not to be confused Red and Ash as the pokemon characters)
Why don't put Beck in Smash?
It's because of the two kickstarters (game and anime).

I don't know much about Red Ash, but...

...isn't Beck a lil bit redundant with actual Megaman in the game?

Not to mention his game isn't even out yet...despite the Mighty No. 9 movie being planned not even knowing if it's going to be a commercial success or a massive flop yet.

It's not so much jumping the gun as it is pole vaulting the cannon at this point.

 

[~Krystal~]

Spoiler

Impa, Tetra, Tingle and Toon Zelda bandwagons would be well advised to concede that CD-i Zelda is in fact the most significant protagonist of the franchise as the only incarnation of the princess to be playable (main PC) in her namesake series, and by extension, the only valid choice as the next Zelda character. If one were so inclined, a case could be made for Tingle seeing as how he's got his own little line of games; however, the rest are glorified bit players who nudge Link in the right directions at key moments of the adventure. As if the decision wasn't already obvious by now, CD-i Zelda did what so few have managed to accomplish before, and that is to free Link and save Hyrule. No other hopeful has anything remotely as impressive as this on their resume. She was the reason Duke Onkled was forced to scrub all the floors in Hyrule. Something to consider. Before some pedant cites Spirit Tracks, refer to the first statement of this wall.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Hey everyone, what do you think about THIS:

RED ASH: THE INEDIBLE LEGEND (Not to be confused Red and Ash as the pokemon characters)
Why don't put Beck in Smash?
It's because of the two kickstarters (game and anime).

Supposedly the game would be developed by a third party that only has experience with mobile games so, at this time, it's virtually impossible for me to get excited about it. My interest in Mighty #9 died horrifically a long time ago too because Inafune has already greenlite a TV series and a movie without even knowing if the game is going to be successful or not. The whole situation reminds me way too much of Sonic Boom and I've come to remember why I kind of quietly resent Inafune.

 

[Frostwraith]

Supposedly the game would be developed by a third party that only has experience with mobile games so, at this time, it's virtually impossible for me to get excited about it. My interest in Mighty #9 died horrifically a long time ago too because Inafune has already greenlite a TV series and a movie without even knowing if the game is going to be successful or not. The whole situation reminds me way too much of Sonic Boom and I've come to remember why I kind of quietly resent Inafune.

In the words of Hideki Kamiya, Inafune is not a creator, but a business man.

 

[Champ Gold]

How likely is it for a second Xenoblade rep?

 

[ConDeeCas]

How likely is it for a second Xenoblade rep?

I really really hope it's a small chance.

 

[BluePikmin11]

20% for a 2nd Xenoblade character for me, would have to be a pre-ballot character. Will most likely be either Cross or Elma, given that it's an established franchise, it certainly has been become popular enough to get another character.

 

[A Distant Demon]

How likely is it for a second Xenoblade rep?

not very. small support and X isnt even out anywhere but Japan. that and there have only been 2 games.

As much as I would love Melia to be playable . . .

 

[Schnee117]

How likely is it for a second Xenoblade rep?

Very unlikely.
Xenoblade is a really niche title and it's characters aren't all that popular which is a main driving force in the ballot. The only options left are Melia, Seven, Reyn and Sharla for the party members.

Xenoblade X isn't even out over here yet so the characters have little popularity. If there were a character from X though it'd be Elma because of her being the main character.

 

[StormC]

There's next to no chance of another Xenoblade character for Smash 4. Pretty good one for the next game though.

 

[WeirdChillFever]

Riki with Xenoblade X Heropon alts please.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Yeah I could see a new Xenoblade character in Smash 5. That and the Inklings I think are practically guaranteed.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Hey everyone, what do you think about THIS:

RED ASH: THE INEDIBLE LEGEND (Not to be confused Red and Ash as the pokemon characters)
Why don't put Beck in Smash?
It's because of the two kickstarters (game and anime).

3. There were 3 kickstarters. They asked for money for DLC for the gme, revealing some Ray character. Before the game is out. Was Inafune around during the on disk DLC stuff? Would explain a lot

 

[Champ Gold]

3. There were 3 kickstarters. They asked for money for DLC for the gme, revealing some Ray character. Before the game is out. Was Inafune around during the on disk DLC stuff? Would explain a lot

Let's put it like this, he was the one who pushed for Bad Box Art Megaman in SFxT so probably. He was the reason for DmC existing (although Capcom still has partial blame on that due to mismanagement and letting Ninja Theory run wild)

Yeah I could see a new Xenoblade character in Smash 5. That and the Inklings I think are practically guaranteed.

I can see Wonder Red happening as like a call back to the ballot but that's just my small hopes

 

[N3ON]

If XCX performs the same way it did in Japan elsewhere and gets no additional sequels I wouldn't classify the series as overly likely for more representation down the line.

 

[dangeraaron10]

If XCX performs the same way it did in Japan elsewhere and gets no additional sequels I wouldn't classify the series as overly likely for more representation down the line.

Uh oh, did Xenoblade X not do so well? It looked pretty neat.

 

[N3ON]

Uh oh, did Xenoblade X not do so well? It looked pretty neat.

It was and will be critically lauded I'm sure, but I think so far it's only pushed around 100k which isn't great. Especially because not only did this game probably have a healthy budget, but proportionally it's also a more popular series in Japan than the west.

The 3DS port of the first one fared even poorer.

 

[dangeraaron10]

It was and will be critically lauded I'm sure, but I think so far it's only pushed around 100k which isn't great. Especially because not only did this game probably have a healthy budget, but proportionally it's also a more popular series in Japan than the west.

The 3DS port of the first one fared even poorer.

Ouch. I guess we'll have to wait and see for the western release. It's one of the only last Wii U games we'll likely get other than Mario Maker and Star Fox U, and I'm still thinking Zelda U will dual release onto the NX.

 

[StormC]

Ouch. I guess we'll have to wait and see for the western release. It's one of the only last Wii U games we'll likely get other than Mario Maker and Star Fox U, and I'm still thinking Zelda U will dual release onto the NX.

NX is holiday 2017 at the earliest, guaranteed. Nintendo won't let the Wii U just sit there for two years.

As for XCX, Sakurai is a fan of the series and bad sales didn't stop two Fire Emblem characters in Brawl so I'm not overly concerned.

 

[N3ON]

NX is holiday 2017 at the earliest, guaranteed. Nintendo won't let the Wii U just sit there for two years.

If the NX comes out in 2016 the Wii U will have been on the market for four years... which is a perfectly fair amount of time for a product which largely tanked.

As for XCX, Sakurai is a fan of the series and bad sales didn't stop two Fire Emblem characters in Brawl so I'm not overly concerned.

FE also had highly popular requests and a handful of games, not just two.

 

[Diddy Kong]

Spoiler

Impa, Tetra, Tingle and Toon Zelda bandwagons would be well advised to concede that CD-i Zelda is in fact the most significant protagonist of the franchise as the only incarnation of the princess to be playable (main PC) in her namesake series, and by extension, the only valid choice as the next Zelda character. If one were so inclined, a case could be made for Tingle seeing as how he's got his own little line of games; however, the rest are glorified bit players who nudge Link in the right directions at key moments of the adventure. As if the decision wasn't already obvious by now, CD-i Zelda did what so few have managed to accomplish before, and that is to free Link and save Hyrule. No other hopeful has anything remotely as impressive as this on their resume. She was the reason Duke Onkled was forced to scrub all the floors in Hyrule. Something to consider. Before some pedant cites Spirit Tracks, refer to the first statement of this wall.

7/10 for making me respond

 

[Bowserlick]

Is Sceptile popular anymore? A grass pokemon would complete the trifecta (water, fire, grass) and maybe ease Ivysaur fans (or rub salt into their wounds).

 

[YoshiandToad]

I can see Wonder Red happening as like a call back to the ballot but that's just my small hopes

Personally I think Wonder Red has a better chance next game than this one. The vast majority of Sm4sh newcomers were stars of the Wii after all.

 

[BluePikmin11]

I don't think he would be considered because he was on the Wii U, there are more valuable reasons for his inclusion.

 

[N3ON]

I don't see a one-shot character from a 5+ years old game which bombed being particularly likely for the next Smash... I imagine one-off (non-retro) games would need a Xenoblade/Splatoon kind of reception to even be seriously considered...

Is Sceptile popular anymore? A grass pokemon would complete the trifecta (water, fire, grass) and maybe ease Ivysaur fans (or rub salt into their wounds).

Not especially but he probably did ok with the more casual votes. Though the casual audience makes up a much smaller percent of those who voted than just in general.

The truth is he's probably not going to make it, but when the next gen rolls around the Grass starter will find themselves with an abundance of Smash popularity if only for the sake of the trifecta.

 

[StormC]

If the NX comes out in 2016 the Wii U will have been on the market for four years... which is a perfectly fair amount of time for a product which largely tanked.

Here's the way I look at it:

-2017 gives the Wii U a five year life cycle, like the N64 and GCN.
-Wii U was revealed at E3 2011 and released holiday 2012.
-Between Zelda, the 3D Mario in development, and whatever Retro's doing, Nintendo will have enough to get through 2016.

If they were to put the NX out at 2016, they'd have had to started development on it pretty damn early, despite their efforts to salvage the Wii U. I feel like they're only now going into damage control in the wake of Smash not doing much to bolster Wii U sales, but that's only my speculation.

 

[A Distant Demon]

Is Sceptile popular anymore? A grass pokemon would complete the trifecta (water, fire, grass) and maybe ease Ivysaur fans (or rub salt into their wounds).

not really especially not here. He probably has a huge presence in the casual vote though but his time of bandwagoning is much over.

Personally I think Wonder Red has a better chance next game than this one. The vast majority of Sm4sh newcomers were stars of the Wii after all.

I dont. The game flopped hard and his popularity will probably have faded. Unless for some reason nintendo decides to give the game a sequel ( likely a bad move after the first one) he will just be another one-off from a game that failed.

 

[Xzsmmc]

NX is holiday 2017 at the earliest, guaranteed. Nintendo won't let the Wii U just sit there for two years.

E3 made it pretty clear Nintendo has all but abandoned the Wii U.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

They already have one made? That was quicker than I thought
If people buy an Amiibo of a DLC character they don't have, do you think they'll unlock them in game?

 

[Kenith]

They already have one made? That was quicker than I thought
If people buy an Amiibo of a DLC character they don't have, do you think they'll unlock them in game?

No. They can carve of hours of content with amiibos in certain games but I doubt they would allow the simple convenience as letting you get the character for buying the 13+ dollar figure of them.

 

[Aetheri]

E3 made it pretty clear Nintendo has all but abandoned the Wii U.

New Xenoblade, new star fox, Splatoon basically keeping the system alive and still the eventual release of Zelda next year...Nintendo hasn't abandoned the system but it clearly isn't a priority considering all the 3DS titles being released...

 

[PK_Knee]

Spoiler

Impa, Tetra, Tingle and Toon Zelda bandwagons would be well advised to concede that CD-i Zelda is in fact the most significant protagonist of the franchise as the only incarnation of the princess to be playable (main PC) in her namesake series, and by extension, the only valid choice as the next Zelda character. If one were so inclined, a case could be made for Tingle seeing as how he's got his own little line of games; however, the rest are glorified bit players who nudge Link in the right directions at key moments of the adventure. As if the decision wasn't already obvious by now, CD-i Zelda did what so few have managed to accomplish before, and that is to free Link and save Hyrule. No other hopeful has anything remotely as impressive as this on their resume. She was the reason Duke Onkled was forced to scrub all the floors in Hyrule. Something to consider. Before some pedant cites Spirit Tracks, refer to the first statement of this wall.

You, are a genius. C-DI LINK & ZELDA FOR SMASH PLS SAMURAI.

 

[PrettyIvyPearls22]

It's safe to say that Nintendo is ready to call it quits for the Wii U. Which is kind of sad because you'd think the Wii U would be at its prime now. The system have some good titles but I can understand why some may say it's a hit or a miss. When they mentioned the NX this year at E3, I was kind of sad and knew it was a red flag saying they're ready to move on. That whole E3 conference for this year was pretty much saying well,"wait till next year guys". I just hope we get good hand full of games for the NX's launch with a couple of third party titles, hopefully maybe the third parties that's in Smash now could have something in the works, but I'm hoping that Nintendo will go all out for the next year.

 

[PK_Knee]

It's safe to say that Nintendo is ready to call it quits for the Wii U. Which is kind of sad because you'd think the Wii U would be at its prime now. The system have some good titles but I can understand why some may say it's a hit or a miss. When they mentioned the NX this year at E3, I was kind of sad and knew it was a red flag saying they're ready to move on. That whole E3 conference for this year was pretty much saying well,"wait till next year guys". I just hope we get good hand full of games for the NX's launch with a couple of third party titles, hopefully maybe the third parties that's in Smash now could have something in the works, but I'm hoping that Nintendo will go all out for the next year.

I think the Wii U will last into 2018... I hope . and the 3DS will go to 2018 as well.

 

[YoshiandToad]

I dont. The game flopped hard and his popularity will probably have faded. Unless for some reason nintendo decides to give the game a sequel ( likely a bad move after the first one) he will just be another one-off from a game that failed.

How will his inclusion in Smash benefit him then? If Wonderful 101 can't stand up on it's own merits and it's popularity is that fleeting I have to question whether it's worth including Wonder Red as a fighter in the first place.

I don't think he would be considered because he was on the Wii U, there are more valuable reasons for his inclusion.

Can you name any, because I could do with a positive reason for his inclusion. A flopped game on the Wii U that's unlikely to get a sequel doesn't scream 'must have' to me at this point.

 

[StormC]

How will his inclusion in Smash benefit him then? If Wonderful 101 can't stand up on it's own merits and it's popularity is that fleeting I have to question whether it's worth including Wonder Red as a fighter in the first place.

People liked W101 and think he'd be a fun fighter in Smash. It's not really any deeper than that.