Character Discussion Thread

[Spinosaurus]

smash in terms is the most unique fighting game out there you get a invitation to smash you have officially reached the top I think it would not be a stretch to say none of the fighting games now have can live up to smash expectations and sony trying to rip-off smash with that sony all-stars is not a good idea because if your messing with smash your messing with the king of fighting games which you cant win

Marvel vs Capcom 3 was hype as **** yo

Street Fighter is still the undisputed king of fighting games unless we're talking about sales.

 

[Masonomace]

You totally get it. Whether or not Jiggs gets anymore fun, doesn't mean a cut is merited. Mario never gets anymore fun for me, but the Justice League ain't the Justice League without Superman. Jiggs is Aquaman. Nobody really gives a ****, but when he's not there, you notice it.

I miss Justice League Unlimited. . . . .. . . .Thanks Ob--
Thanks Espio.
I was slightly excited from overload of posts, I let my fingers slip & typed that. Sry but ty, she'll never get boring similar to that wise quote, "There is never nothing going on." Same applies for Purin & every character, she'll never get boring unless you stop noticing her.

C'mon people, what is this, not a Smash forum?

"Anything can change!"


And I learned a thing today. 8) Thank you~

Thanks for Posting~
And learning~

 

[Xenorange]

It is ironic that you enjoy Sonic's move-set over Jigglypuff's because they are polar opposites. Jigglypuff has a unique play-style as a longstanding veteran and Sonic has the most uninspired, unoriginal play-style to ever grace Smash, I am not sure why they brought him back. Sakurai should have just included Mega Man and left it at that. It would be such a horrible fate to have to endure Sonic another time without Snake. Cutting Snake and not Sonic would be utterly irrational.

Hehehee.


"It's not too late, it's never too late!"

Greninja'd by @ Masonomace


Is he not also the first Grass-Dragon type via Mega Evolution?

I'm just a fan of the character man, I fail to see the irony in that. My opinion of you is now extremely negative. I used to like your posts, whether you care about my opinion matters not to me though. Long live Sonic, my childhood idol. I'm sorry that you have to "endure" such a special part of my childhood. If you were trying to hurt me, then you succeeded. Trust me, I'm more aware than anyone of how disappointing his moveset was. With that said, here take all of my hatred.

 

[mark welford]

He can shoot lasers, he can sap health, he can make leaf blades, he can make leaf tornadoes, he can grapple with vines, he can shoot seed bombs, his mega form can shoot his tail as a torpedo and he has leech seed.

aren't you happy? we already have a green lizard who does better than what you listed he can grow wings and breathe fire can sceptile do that? no his name? Yoshi his full name? T. Yoshisaur Munchakoopas

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

hmph is that so? I did not know you were on him like that your his GF? I take your his GF

Dude, you're gonna get in trouble. Just drop it.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Sonic's moveset is pretty good let's be real.

Just needs some tweaks.

 

[Morbi]

I'm just a fan of the character man, I fail to see the irony in that. My opinion of you is now extremely negative. I used to like your posts, whether you care about my opinion matters not to me though. Long live Sonic, my childhood idol. I'm sorry that you have to "endure" such a special part of my childhood. If you were trying to hurt me, then you succeeded. Trust me, I'm more aware than anyone of how disappointing his moveset was. With that said, here take all of my hatred.

I was just being facetious, I am also a Sonic fan, albeit, I am also also (sic) a Jigglypuff fan. I support clone characters such as Dark Pit, I have no right to discuss what move-sets do or do not deserve to be in the game.

I apologize for offending you, 'twas a (bad) joke.

 

[Johnknight1]

What is Snake going to be cut for if the reasons you countered aren't going to apply.

The point is if Snake is cut, all the top dogs of the development screwed up BIG TIME.

You know, just like how ALL of the top dogs for Brawl's development team screwed up BIG TIME by putting over 60% of everything into the Subpar Crapperary.

 

[Weeman]

I'm just a fan of the character man, I fail to see the irony in that. My opinion of you is now extremely negative. I used to like your posts, whether you care about my opinion matters not to me though. Long live Sonic, my childhood idol. I'm sorry that you have to "endure" such a special part of my childhood. If you were trying to hurt me, then you succeeded. Trust me, I'm more aware than anyone of how disappointing his moveset was. With that said, here take all of my hatred.

Now you're just taking this way too seriously

 

[mark welford]

I was once a sonic fan too but I envy your love of the blue blur

I'm just a fan of the character man, I fail to see the irony in that. My opinion of you is now extremely negative. I used to like your posts, whether you care about my opinion matters not to me though. Long live Sonic, my childhood idol. I'm sorry that you have to "endure" such a special part of my childhood. If you were trying to hurt me, then you succeeded. Trust me, I'm more aware than anyone of how disappointing his moveset was. With that said, here take all of my hatred.

 

[Pizzanigs]

He can shoot lasers, he can sap health, he can make leaf blades, he can make leaf tornadoes, he can grapple with vines, he can shoot seed bombs, his mega form can shoot his tail as a torpedo and he has leech seed.

A lot of other characters already have/had those moves.

 

[Deleted member]

On the subject of Sonic, as much as I love the fact he's in the game, I agree that his moveset is so uninspired. He doesn't have the most potential in the world, but it's there. How I would make it-- Project M version but up-smash is the tornado attack from heroes, and down b is bounce attack in mid air. I do like his new dash attack with the kick at the end though. Also Snake should be back, but I'm not sure how likely that also.

Also Tails for Smash he has more potential than Sonic.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

So...thoughts on my post?

 

[ミスティック Speed]

On the subject of Sonic, as much as I love the fact he's in the game, but I agree his moveset is so uninspired. He doesn't have the most potential in the world, but it's there. How I would make it-- Project M version but up-smash is the tornado attack from heroes, and down b is bounce attack in mid air. I do like his new dash attack with the kick at the end though. Also Snake should be back, but I'm not sure how likely that also.

Also Tails for Smash he has more potential than Sonic.

I would love to see Tails make it in. He has tons of options for his moveset.

 

[Niala]

I ****ing hate Jigglypuff, Sceptile is light-years cooler. I pray to based Sakurai that he's included as a playable character. Sceptile's the only pokerep left that i REALLY want. The ideal Pokemon lineup would be Pikachu, Lucario, Mewtwo, Sceptile, Charizard and Greninja. Death to the Puff, life to the Lizard.

Don't talk about Sonic, you'll start a real fight with me.

He can shoot lasers, he can sap health, he can make leaf blades, he can make leaf tornadoes, he can grapple with vines, he can shoot seed bombs, his mega form can shoot his tail as a torpedo and he has leech seed.

I'm just a fan of the character man, I fail to see the irony in that. My opinion of you is now extremely negative. I used to like your posts, whether you care about my opinion matters not to me though. Long live Sonic, my childhood idol. I'm sorry that you have to "endure" such a special part of my childhood. If you were trying to hurt me, then you succeeded. Trust me, I'm more aware than anyone of how disappointing his moveset was. With that said, here take all of my hatred.

This is truly the most mercurial posting I've even seen. I'm baffled.

So...thoughts on my post?

I'd like to read it BUT I CAN'T KEEP UP!
I'm gonna ignore stuff and go read it RIGHT NOW THOUGH.

 

[Masonomace]

Overall, Falcon is love.
Purin could use some re-vamp / changes / balancing to not get gimped by meteor smashes.
Sonic could replace his current VA & bring back Ryan Drummond or Jason Griffith. Roger Craig Smitch's lines so far in Sm4sh just ain't doing it for me. My opinion cus I watched all the Sonic anime & most of the games.
Snake should come back, I'd love his amazing game design to make another debut
I want Sceptile's Grass Raptor model to hunt the cast.

So...thoughts on my post?

Huge apologies for this, the madness of posts occured right as your post was submitted here. I am definitely going to ignore the activity & re-read it. Brb

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

For those of you who missed it, here is a link: http://smashboards.com/threads/official-character-discussion-thread.347464/page-1245#post-17271915

I want people to read it. READ IT.

 

[Pizzanigs]

Let's talk about a lizard who's ten times more cool, powerful, and loved than Sceptile.

Other than Morbid, would you guys like to see King K. Rool?

 

[mark welford]

I would love to see Tails make it in. He has tons of options for his moveset.

I said this before and I will say this again if sonic should get a second representative it should be tails he is the one who is closest to sonic and he would have a pretty unique moveset after that whoever else can come until then I maintain that tails deserves that second sonic representative spot

 

[ElPanandero]

Well the good old Brawl detractors for sonic, and there were a noticeable handful, complained most loudly about the direction sonic had gone since the dreamcast days, in everything 3D, post Adventure I believe. So I think, as a way to soften the blow for the detractors, they went with a "classic" sonic moveset so they could say "hey look, its classic sonic, you guys can't be mad" but it ended up making those who liked sonic, or were neutral to sonic, to dislike him apparently. I never had a problem with his moveset, his specials were lame and I suck at using him, but I never held that against him.

And yes @ Pizzanigs I'd love to see Rool, though I'd hope he gets at least one blunderbuss based move, King Rool is Lame rool in my book

 

[CrusherMania1592]

He would just be another sword user

I'm just a fan of the character man, I fail to see the irony in that. My opinion of you is now extremely negative. I used to like your posts, whether you care about my opinion matters not to me though. Long live Sonic, my childhood idol. I'm sorry that you have to "endure" such a special part of my childhood. If you were trying to hurt me, then you succeeded. Trust me, I'm more aware than anyone of how disappointing his moveset was. With that said, here take all of my hatred.

Welcome to the internet, where Morbid is the Queen of sarcasm

So...thoughts on my post?

About Snake? Anything can happen at this point really. I'd be surprised if he returned based on what's going on

 

[Xenorange]

Sonic's moveset is pretty good let's be real.

Just needs some tweaks.

I completely agree, tweeks are indeed needed.

 

[Deleted member]

For those of you who missed it, here is a link: http://smashboards.com/threads/official-character-discussion-thread.347464/page-1245#post-17271915

I want people to read it. READ IT.

After reading that post, yeah I think Snake still has a pretty good chance. Also, as someone who has never played a Metal Gear Solid game, I can say I never wanted him cut.

 

[Espio264]

I would love to see Tails make it in. He has tons of options for his moveset.

Yes. Or Knuckles. Or neither, because a second Third party rep from a particular series gets away from Nintendo All Stars. But if we can have a Namco Special flag, can we have a Tails item? one of his inventions? I'd say his tails, but that's basically what Tanooki leaf is already doing. What about Knuckles' gloves as an item? Can you imagine Falcon Punch with Knux' gloves. Freakin' Fantastic.

Sonic could replace his current VA & bring back Ryan Drummond or Jason Griffith. Roger Craig Smitch's lines so far in Sm4sh just ain't doing it for me. My opinion cus I watched all the Sonic anime & most of the games.

Jaleel White is best Sonic.

 

[Oz37]

Let's talk about a lizard who's ten times more cool, powerful, and loved than Sceptile.

Other than Morbid, would you guys like to see King K. Rool?

I'd be fine with K. Rool, but he's just one of those characters for me that I have a hard time visualizing in the cast. This doesn't mean I don't support or think he's likely, it's like I just have a block and can't "see" him alongside the others myself. Do you guys have characters like that? Ones you think have a chance of being playable but you just can't realistically imagine what they'd be like in game?

 

[Morbi]

Alright, so about Snake...

There's some misconceptions on his chances for this game in my honest opinion. I think most people who want him out of the game are people who have never played Metal Gear Solid and are biased against it because it's "violent and gritty". However, if you've played essentially any title in the MGS series, you would know it hardly takes itself seriously, and it is goofy quite a bit of the time.

A lot of people in the Smash speculation community (not just here) like to say that Snake doesn't fit and should be cut. That's entirely subjective. My opinion that he fit just fine is also subjective. However, Sakurai's opinion actually lines up with mine. Coincidentially, so does Satoru Iwata's. Just read the interview from an Iwata Ask's episode in which Sakurai is talked to about Snake and Sonic. Here is an except:



If you look at a few of the parts I highlighted, you will realize that:

1) Iwata looks at it as both Sonic AND Snake fit into the environment of the game, and seem as if they've always been a part of the series.
- Basically, the argument that "Snake doesn't fit!" means nothing. Subjectively, you may think he doesn't fit, but the people whose thoughts matter most believe the opposite.

2) There was indeed internal debate on "where to draw the line" on 3rd Party characters in Smash. As found in a different interview with Hideo Kojima, he mentions that the Nintendo big-wigs weren't keen on the idea of Snake because he was "too Sony". This creates a hypocritical situation. However, I believe Sakurai's work convinced Iwata that it was a good choice, and it was because of the trust in Sakurai that Snake was allowed in the game.

Moving onto a point that may not bear too much prominence, but think about this...Smash Bros. has never completely lost a series before. We've lost characters, but we've never lost an entire series. If Snake is cut, that means that that will finally actually happen. We would lose a unique stage, trophies from various games of the series, and above all else, the iconic protagonist who had one of the most unique movesets in the series. It would be rather unfortunate as a fan of both Smash and Metal Gear.

Snake's position with Nintendo hasn't really changed at all. Around the time of Brawl, he had a remake in The Twin Snakes, and had MGS4 coming out on the heels of Brawl. Sakurai has made it known that he has no ****s to give about console wars as we know, so the current situation with Ground Zeroes/The Phantom Pain is comparable and negligible.

If Sakurai really cared about Snake predominantly being on competitor consoles, he wouldn't have been in the game in the first place. Actually, if IWATA cared as much as people claim he would, then why is content from Guns of the Patriots in the game in the first place? Portable Ops? There is a fair amount of content from games not on Nintendo consoles.

So far, several of the reasons against Snake that people use have been cast aside. The fact that he "isn't Nintendo" and/or "doesn't fit" can't really be used as a solid argument against him (pun not intended) based on the fact that Sakurai and Iwata disagree based on the interview I included.

I also find that Snake being the first 3rd Party character EVER introduced to Smash Bros. is something that shouldn't go unnoticed. I feel as if it will be a strange feeling without him based on his impact on the series. Removing him now will never erase him from Smash Bros. He's been a Smash Brother, so he's ALWAYS a Smash Brother.

The only way I could see him not being in this game, is if the initial contract to have Snake in Brawl was a one-time deal. That is simply the only way I see it at this point. There is nothing significant against him. The recent interview with Kojima can't really be taken either way, as the wording was strange, and Kojima is a complete troll. So really, you never can tell. (he DID have a smirk on his face...)

Why hasn't Snake been revealed yet? Well think of it this way. Mario v Sonic v Mega Man v Pac-Man is a gamer's dream come true. It's something that has never happened before. That picture of the four of them on Miiverse is something that Sakurai milked for awhile, and it makes sense to not have had Snake in it. It would have been awkward, and I'm a huge fan of the character and what he can do.

It makes more sense to me to reveal him later than that, and take advantage of his always amazing introduction of, "Kept you waiting, huh?". A lot of people expect him to be gone, so what better way to surprise everybody than reveal him just before the end of things?

At the end of the day, I could easily be proven wrong in the next few weeks. I hope I'm not, but I accept the fact that I might be wrong, and will have to suffer the pain of having one of my favorite characters in Brawl removed. That said, I am pioneering a Snake for Smash DLC campaign just in case, so if you are interested in following that effort, you can find it on Twitter at @Snake4Smash4.

Thanks for reading. I hope I convinced at least a few people. I think Snake gets a lot of unwarranted hate, and I hope that changes.

If it was truly your hope to convince someone that they were indeed incorrect, you were successful, good sir. I am not sure whether or not I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment that relevant Nintendo figures thought that he "fit" into Smash. Let us be honest, he "fits" because he does not "fit." That is what I enjoy so much about his inclusion. Honestly, I interpret those assertions as standard PR statements. It is not as though Sakurai would tell us if he did not enjoy the choice. I do not find it material. The rest of your argument; however, was solid.

I am "crashing this party" fairly late, but better late than never, Dark Pit always says.

 

[Masonomace]

Jaleel White is best Sonic.

"Bummer May Horus!"
I too think Jaleel White is top tier sanic VA

 

[Kenith]

So...thoughts on my post?

Not much to say, really. I'm in complete agreement and you covered all the points, so there's much I could add.

 

[False Sense]

For those of you who missed it, here is a link: http://smashboards.com/threads/official-character-discussion-thread.347464/page-1245#post-17271915

I want people to read it. READ IT.

Well since you obviously want the attention, I think it was a very good post about Snake's unique situation. You covered just about everything. It isn't anything I haven't already heard, though, so I wouldn't say this changes my opinion on his chances.

 

[Xenorange]

This is truly the most mercurial posting I've even seen. I'm baffled.



I'd like to read it BUT I CAN'T KEEP UP!
I'm gonna ignore stuff and go read it RIGHT NOW THOUGH.

What can I say, I get defensive when it comes to my childhood memories. I'm an odd guy.

 

[mark welford]

Welcome to the internet, where Morbid is the Queen of sarcasm

About Snake? Anything can happen at this point really. I'd be surprised if he returned based on what's going on

LOL that GIF

"Bummer May Horus!"
I too think Jaleel White is top tier sanic VA

Did I do that?

 

[Weeman]

Jaleel White is best Sonic.

Sonic: "Hey Silver, would you like some soda?"
Silver: NO
Sonic: "Why?"
Silver: IT'S NO JUICE! TAKE THIS!
Jaleel: Did i do that?

Spoiler

What am i doing with my life?

 

[Gold_Jacobson]

Don't know why you guys debate the roster when my uncle is a Nintendo and works for Sakurai and I can just ask him for the roster if you all want me too.

 

[mark welford]

Sonic: "Hey Silver, would you like some soda?"
Silver: NO
Sonic: "Why?"
Silver: IT'S NO JUICE! TAKE THIS!

Spoiler

What am i doing with my life?

you should of put a part where sonic spilled it on silver and then said Did I do that in a Jaleel White voice

 

[Masonomace]

So...thoughts on my post?

My one & only thought was,
"you. . .you're good"

I have nothing to say, I was quite fond of the solid evidence through quotes / source provided to us, you got me & many others on this thread atm to be in awe to your reasoning of Snake's inclusion as a Smash Brother regain a future debut in Sm4sh. I was fond of his game-play, although not playing all the MGS games, I've watched enough to know it's not what people assume it out to be. I thank you for posting that of which I read.

~Thanks for Posting~​

 

[Scamper52596]

Don't know why you guys debate the roster when my uncle is a Nintendo and works for Sakurai and I can just ask him for the roster if you all want me too.

That would be more than fantastic. Could you let us all know by tomorrow?

 

[Morbi]

Well since you obviously want the attention, I think it was a very good post about Snake's unique situation. You covered just about everything. It isn't anything I haven't already heard, though, so I wouldn't say this changes my opinion on his chances.

Agreed. The post did not actually alter my opinion on his chances directly, it did; however, make me realize that I was being far too presumptuous in my perspective and that I was arbitrarily disregarding certain notions, such as the fact that Snake was our first third-party character. It was easy to blatantly dismiss that as not material, but after reading the post, I have given it more thought and determined that it was relevant. Basically, it helped me dispel some longstanding biases against Snake's inclusion.

In that right, I changed my opinion. I am on the Snake plane (Snakes on a Train is overrated).

 

[Niala]

Alright, so about Snake...

There's some misconceptions on his chances for this game in my honest opinion. I think most people who want him out of the game are people who have never played Metal Gear Solid and are biased against it because it's "violent and gritty". However, if you've played essentially any title in the MGS series, you would know it hardly takes itself seriously, and it is goofy quite a bit of the time.

I'll admit I've never played anything from Metal Gear Solid, but I also think he is one of the most unique fighters in the game, and really enjoyed playing him. I wouldn't wish him to leave.

A lot of people in the Smash speculation community (not just here) like to say that Snake doesn't fit and should be cut. That's entirely subjective. My opinion that he fit just fine is also subjective. However, Sakurai's opinion actually lines up with mine. Coincidentially, so does Satoru Iwata's. Just read the interview from an Iwata Ask's episode in which Sakurai is talked to about Snake and Sonic. Here is an except:



If you look at a few of the parts I highlighted, you will realize that:

1) Iwata looks at it as both Sonic AND Snake fit into the environment of the game, and seem as if they've always been a part of the series.
- Basically, the argument that "Snake doesn't fit!" means nothing. Subjectively, you may think he doesn't fit, but the people whose thoughts matter most believe the opposite.

Agreed. They wouldn't have included him in the first place if he was super out of place.

2) There was indeed internal debate on "where to draw the line" on 3rd Party characters in Smash. As found in a different interview with Hideo Kojima, he mentions that the Nintendo big-wigs weren't keen on the idea of Snake because he was "too Sony". This creates a hypocritical situation. However, I believe Sakurai's work convinced Iwata that it was a good choice, and it was because of the trust in Sakurai that Snake was allowed in the game.

Convinced, but that's basically the same thing as the first point. They're both an argument of whether or not he's applicable or "fitting."

Moving onto a point that may not bear too much prominence, but think about this...Smash Bros. has never completely lost a series before. We've lost characters, but we've never lost an entire series. If Snake is cut, that means that that will finally actually happen. We would lose a unique stage, trophies from various games of the series, and above all else, the iconic protagonist who had one of the most unique movesets in the series. It would be rather unfortunate as a fan of both Smash and Metal Gear.

I don't think that's necessarily relevant, especially when the series in question is third party.

Snake's position with Nintendo hasn't really changed at all. Around the time of Brawl, he had a remake in The Twin Snakes, and had MGS4 coming out on the heels of Brawl. Sakurai has made it known that he has no ****s to give about console wars as we know, so the current situation with Ground Zeroes/The Phantom Pain is comparable and negligible.

If Sakurai really cared about Snake predominantly being on competitor consoles, he wouldn't have been in the game in the first place. Actually, if IWATA cared as much as people claim he would, then why is content from Guns of the Patriots in the game in the first place? Portable Ops? There is a fair amount of content from games not on Nintendo consoles.

So far, several of the reasons against Snake that people use have been cast aside. The fact that he "isn't Nintendo" and/or "doesn't fit" can't really be used as a solid argument against him (pun not intended) based on the fact that Sakurai and Iwata disagree based on the interview I included.

I also find that Snake being the first 3rd Party character EVER introduced to Smash Bros. is something that shouldn't go unnoticed. I feel as if it will be a strange feeling without him based on his impact on the series. Removing him now will never erase him from Smash Bros. He's been a Smash Brother, so he's ALWAYS a Smash Brother.

I don't think this is relevant, personally, but I can see the logic behind it. It's not dissimilar from the o12 argument.

The only way I could see him not being in this game, is if the initial contract to have Snake in Brawl was a one-time deal. That is simply the only way I see it at this point. There is nothing significant against him. The recent interview with Kojima can't really be taken either way, as the wording was strange, and Kojima is a complete troll. So really, you never can tell. (he DID have a smirk on his face...)

That was my thought as well, to be honest. I doubt at the time of Brawl they had intentions of making a fourth Smash Brothers, but here we are. I feel like Snake could suffer in that he's indeed third party, given that we have Sonic, Mega Man, and Pac-Man, who are being used as publicity. It's even been stated that Sakurai is shocked that it was possible to get these major characters in a game with Mario. I don't think that Snake is on the same level, and he could have been dropped in favour of those characters for various reasons.

Why hasn't Snake been revealed yet? Well think of it this way. Mario v Sonic v Mega Man v Pac-Man is a gamer's dream come true. It's something that has never happened before. That picture of the four of them on Miiverse is something that Sakurai milked for awhile, and it makes sense to not have had Snake in it. It would have been awkward, and I'm a huge fan of the character and what he can do.

It makes more sense to me to reveal him later than that, and take advantage of his always amazing introduction of, "Kept you waiting, huh?". A lot of people expect him to be gone, so what better way to surprise everybody than reveal him just before the end of things?

At the end of the day, I could easily be proven wrong in the next few weeks. I hope I'm not, but I accept the fact that I might be wrong, and will have to suffer the pain of having one of my favorite characters in Brawl removed. That said, I am pioneering a Snake for Smash DLC campaign just in case, so if you are interested in following that effort, you can find it on Twitter at @Snake4Smash4.

Thanks for reading. I hope I convinced at least a few people. I think Snake gets a lot of unwarranted hate, and I hope that changes.

I think the basic concept of your post is correct, that people are dismissing him for the wrong reasons. However, I don't think you've managed to convince me he's returning yet.

I'm sorry it took so long, but here's a response from somebody who read. <3 The thread's just moving so fast it's hard to keep up when a huge post comes along.

 

[Autumn ♫]

So...thoughts on my post?

It seems like you've found out why I never thought Snake was a likely cut, so without needing to say so, I'm in complete agreement.

 

[mark welford]

Don't know why you guys debate the roster when my uncle is a Nintendo and works for Sakurai and I can just ask him for the roster if you all want me too.

I want you to but I don't want you to out of fear of my heart being broken about wolf