Character Competitive Impressions

[Hippieslayer]

Sorry, that was more directed at Balgor who said 80% (which sounds a bit hard to believe).



I'm not faulting customs. Quite the opposite. I'm saying that customs aren't going to be the magic answer that everyone seems to believe they are.

Why are you telling me to stfu when I agree with you?

Because I am haf fail reading comprehension, sorry

 

[Smog Frog]

speaking of customs

http://www.twitch.tv/clashtournaments

ktar

 

[Ffamran]

Fox can do it too.

But I don't know of it'll be as useful with Fox since he's already fast and Flying Fox doesn't have a hitbox.

Edit: Is Flying Fox slightly slower than Fast Fire Bird?

 

[Road Death Wheel]

I feel bad now for not contributing to the samus's boards custom move project.
Big bomb should be on most of her sets T.T

 

[19_]

ADHD is showing the true power of villager on stream. This ledge stalling is unreal.

It begins

 

[Ffamran]

I feel bad now for not contributing to the samus's boards custom move project.
Big bomb should be on most of her sets T.T

There's always next time.

 

[Bribery]

Oh wow, the ledge stalling by ADHD's Villager. How does one even beat that strategy?

 

[Blobface]

How much does explosive balloon trip affect villagers recovery? It seems it's not quite as far as normal balloon trip. It's still good, just not as good?

How much does explosive balloon trip affect villagers recovery? It seems it's not quite as far as normal balloon trip. It's still good, just not as good?

ADHD is showing the true power of villager on stream. This ledge stalling is unreal.

It begins

I might just be missing something, but I'm fairly sure Rosalina could've just dash attacked and scooped Villager off the ledge. She should never have tried to outcamp the Tent-Master. I seriously hope people don't overestimate Explosive Balloon Trip just because of this match.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

Good stuff from emblem lord props to him that match.

 

[thehard]

I feel like Snakeee should have busted out a counterpick there against ADHD. Also Keitaro's brief interlude made me laugh

Some things I read in chat amongst the ADHD hate:
"Shadow Sneak would wreck the ledge-stalling Villager"
"Jiggs could probably handle this setup"
"When the Villager misses the ledge snap after his balloons run out, any windbox would destroy him"

Just things to consider! That set definitely satisfied my curiosity.

 

[Blobface]

Oh wow, the ledge stalling by ADHD's Villager. How does one even beat that strategy?

As mentioned above, several dash attacks can hit Villager on the ledge. I know for sure that Ganon's Dash Attack can scoop Villager up like delicious ice cream.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

oh this is some interesting mixups from this bowser jr.

 

[HeroMystic]

As mentioned above, several dash attacks can hit Villager on the ledge. I know for sure that Ganon's Dash Attack can scoop Villager up like delicious ice cream.

If trip sapling is in play this is pretty difficult to do.

That said, I already made a write-up about this here: http://smashboards.com/threads/offi...-initial-release.381395/page-46#post-18786797

As I said in there: Beatable, but tiring.

 

[wedl!!]

"IN OUR HEARTS GANON HAS WON THAT MATCH"

 

[ChronoPenguin]

Oh wow, the ledge stalling by ADHD's Villager. How does one even beat that strategy?

Multiple characters can just hit from above, some characters go through tree sampling (Upperdash 2, Clown Cart, Metaknight).

 

[Luco]

So salty that this computer can't do twitch. Enjoy your fun

 

[Smog Frog]

does anyone else find it ironic that ADHD is the one being patient?

 

[warionumbah2]

I said this before like 20 pages back, High Speed Drill beats all of Villagers projectiles.

And he has multiple jumps to mix up his landing and mach tornado dealing over 20% giving MK a solid lead.

I'd love to play this MU, little bugger would run to his mother.

Edit: Female now, all of them are devil spawns.

 

[thehard]

This is so hype, legitimately

 

[Superbat]

TWEEK IS THE SAVIOR

 

[HeroMystic]

And Tweek did exactly what I wrote up to beat Villager's camping.

 

[Smog Frog]

hype as **** timeouts, who would have thought that was possible in smash?

the only timeouts i have seen this hype where johnnumbers timeouts

 

[Quickhero]

does anyone else find it ironic that ADHD is the one being patient?

As someone with ADHD, I would be freaking pissed after 30 seconds of playing against this dude.

I hate just taking forever to get anywhere, I would drop out of the tournament over playing ADHD's villager. :[

 

[Road Death Wheel]

that was interesesting its gud to know my character have a bit of options against that playstyle too.

 

[Superbat]

Dam ADHD came through....

 

[thehard]

Just FYI I'm pretty sure ADHD is camping so much because he hates customs, that's what I heard M2K say on ZeRo's stream

I still think that was a great set

 

[Smog Frog]

something terrifying just came to mind
is villager going to be something of a and prevent chars that cant beat his ledgestall from being above mid tier?

 

[Pazx]

"Character Competitive Impressions + Tournament Stream Discussion"

so what have I missed I just tuned in

also @ thehard watching Se*gulltho flounder about in the comments of the front page news story was hilarious, some people are so salty.

 

[Smog Frog]

you're missing a campfest by ADHD's villager, dabuz's camping cant even compare to this level of stalling.

 

[thehard]

Let me just say something though: Bowser Jr. has a great approach in side-b and can rack up damage far easier than Villager, you saw this game 2 where Tweek was (mostly) smart about playing patient and won because of it. He didn't have to go in with even a 1% lead. I'm sure ADHD read this and knew he had to switch to Diddy to win.

 

[Quickhero]

I heard ADHD was doing this as a protest to customs being allowed at EVO. If so, he's not doing anything with this. EVEN if nothing gets discovered for more characters that allows them to handle the power that is Explosive Balloon Trip, WORST CASE Explosive Balloon Trip gets banned and not custom moves as a whole. (Like it should be)

Just making sure people know this.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

geez nairo got too impatiant last match

 

[HeroMystic]

Let me just say something though: Bowser Jr. has a great approach in side-b and can rack up damage far easier than Villager, you saw this game 2 where Tweek was (mostly) smart about playing patient and won because of it. He didn't have to go in with even a 1% lead. I'm sure ADHD read this and knew he had to switch to Diddy to win.

On the other hand, Nairo's ZSS was playing that pretty awkwardly, but I think ZSS is one of those characters that doesn't have many options below her without placing herself in a significant disadvantage.

 

[Blobface]

If ADHD is really doing this as a protest, that's just pathetic. Camping is fine and dandy if it works. Tourney goers fight to win. But I sincerely hope people don't hate customs cause of this one drip.

 

[ChronoPenguin]

Replacing "M2k would've teched that" with Charizard would've Rocksmashed that.
Its a shame the Windbox heroes aren't out for Villager. Could see a Gust cape/Fludd just ending it.

 

[thehard]

Go to --> moving stage

 

[Neoleo21]

Honestly, Nairo missed needed punishes which is why he lost. However, I see more traveling stages as being pretty annoying for this villager variant. What? Another reason to legalize Wuhu and Skyloft?

 

[Pazx]

The solution to ADHD's villager: Delfino, Skyloft, Wuhu.

 

[Road Death Wheel]

lol walkoffs now legal?

 

[Blobface]

Windbox heroes

Someone with better artistic skills than me make this a thing.