CGC @ SFSU XXV - SEP. 3rd!

[Lovage]

lol no one "hurled insults" everyone just disagreed with your (really bad) idea and you tried to troll instead of actually argue why it's a good idea. so you're pretty much a coward

 

[Naota21t]

yup iq things. or things involving iq.

i'm pretty sure EVERTHING involves intelligence.

 

[DJRome]

i explained how it was the same as what the fund is now. and future funds outside of wc can combine funds as needed.

as in the example i provided before, the idle funds can combine for an extra.

worthy events in each region occur about once a month. thus, if the cycling of funds promotes 1 player/month, then the funds sit idle for at least that long. and if the idle funds are enough, they should use it for an event that otherwise should not have any $ or provide for a second player to attend (tho that decreases the expected return to the fund for that event)

once again, i don't see how this idea is any different than what occurs now except that the idle money is used faster and more players get to travel for **** tourneys.

the idea that the shared $ comes from that region alone is laughable. not only have the players from the "good player's" region donated, but any return from the previous "good players" contains contributions from those regions as well in addition to anyone from a region outside of those 2 in question. so no, i don't get that criticism either unless as superrad points out, it is purely to only allow players to travel to a particular region as a selfish region.

edit: lol now who's trolling

 

[pockyD]

there's no such thing as a 'worthy event' for the fund

if it were indeed 'worthy' by some qualitative measure, then the good players would ALREADY be going to it

 

[DJRome]

except in cases where good players cannot afford it. and i think people in their respective regions can fairly accurately gauge the attraction for a certain event. i mean, you can quantitatively estimate attendance

 

[pockyD]

then norcal always has the best attendance for locals so we'll always be bringing people here anyway

 

[LumpyCPU...]

you know, it's people like you who bring norcal smashers together.
there's nothing i love more than seeing hydro kirby and pocky arguing with the same person.

thank you djrome. you... complete me...

 

[DJRome]

well, i mean for stuff that's bigger even. like there are multiple upcoming nationals and just as for pound, rom, genesis, winterfest, etc, people couldn't make it on account of $ that we really wanted to see ****. i just don't see the downside of considering pooling money from multiple funds to promote more good players to attend.

or hey, maybe you guys know something i don't know and it's actually a 'really bad idea."

 

[ender]

well its Brandon's fund and he has a pretty large group of subscribers on youtube who helped with donations to see him record the "good players". If we gave that money to another region some of the out of region donations might not have as good a quality recording as they were expecting.

 

[SuperRad]

the problem is that the money remaining in any funds is intended for the next person to be sponsored by that fund. using that money means you have to raise more money for the next time.

as for bringing people to nationals:
that seemed to be the opposite of the intended meaning of brandon's fund. i can't say for certain, but it seemed like he set his up to bring players to west coast regional/locals, not to 'sponsor' people for national level tournaments.

 

[DJRome]

well, i suppose i thought that the mutual help would end up going back and forth and ultimately not matter. the only real difference between the regions might be canada/mw bc their players (no offense) don't often win tournaments and thus recontribute to the respective fund.

then again, this might remain a waffles thing exclusively and this idea become irrelevant

but i do see the point about recordings. however, i figured the donations was to encourage melee to have more **** people at tournaments, not simply wc regionals/locals. if that's the case, then yeah, this idea would oppose that. but that's more selfish than i had presumed, tho certainly still understandable

 

[pockyD]

what's the point of sending money back and forth

if both sides have enough money to donate to the other side, then neither side should be donating at all; both sides should be paying their own way

i'd have no trouble shipping SS out to NC for a tournament if NC sends peepee back for one

 

[DJRome]

yeah, maybe it's too big of a hassle to do. i just thought that if the idle money was sitting around, it would send 1 extra.

the problem is that i assumed there would be more than 2 funds. like if no single fund could provide one but the idle money of them combined could afford one. that's all i was saying

 

[SuperRad]

you keep saying idle money
but the money is going to continue to build in between tournaments if the funds are succesful

 

[DJRome]

well, it's idle for that time. but that $ will go back if the player wins some. so yes, it poses a "risk" but i thought it would be better to support smash as a whole rather than simply a region

 

[chiZZLeSD]

dj, i think your idea is just too liberal/socialistic. youre proposing that the fund be extended to the entire country right? the problem with that is, that people will be donating money to a player from nyc whos tryna play in the south. people from wc dont wanna see that, because it does absolutely nothing for their region. kind of like universal healthcare.. people who earn their money dont want their taxes raised so that they end up paying for unemployed crackhead's healthcare. same concept going on. to extend the gpf on a national level would be for regions to start their own funds (as has been stated) because that way, the specific region's interests are served. you feel me? like its cool how youre trying to improve on the gpf but your specific idea wont be supported by many people

 

[LumpyCPU...]

well, it's idle for that time. but that $ will go back if the player wins some. so yes, it poses a "risk" but i thought it would be better to support smash as a whole rather than simply a region

if each regions is doing it's own, then while a new york player is going to a so cal tourney, a washington player can go to a midwest tourney. that's more action going on. sounds good. no issue. don't look for one.

 

[DJRome]

lol, im not saying it's bad now. im looking for ways to improve it. im not criticizing anything. people get all defensive when people suggest something new and clearly wc is very opposed to using their fund to help any other region out. i mean cool, do what you want, but clearly there's bias when ur attacking me for having a bad idea when clearly it's because it doesn't serve wc interests as much.

but if wc continues to bring in south ec canada mw players, people who support those players in those regions will donate as well. so i don't see why wc should act as if it's their money. i mean yes, to the discretion of the fund owner of course but i don't see the ridiculousness in my idea either

 

[pockyD]

the only "attack" was you challenging someone to an iq competition

 

[SuperRad]

yeah, but more good players will be hanging out at the tournaments i go to

im completely self serving on this, dont pretend like you're not being the same way

maybe you missed this the first time

 

[DJRome]

well, my response to you excludes that post. but yeah, so this isn't happening. done

 

[PHIL07]

Well since it was my idea ill put my 2 cents in. Actually 3 cents since I’m feeling generous.
The concept for the good player fund was to get good players down here for Cali tourneys. HWM has one the biggest smash channels on the scene. So I figured it would be a treat for everyone. Djrome i like your idea and would love it if this thing become more then just a norcal exclusive project. But right now since its still in its beginning stages I figure we just take it slow. I want to get one more oos player down here. Then after that if possible get the twins down here for a big regional. After that I have no real plans for it. So hopefully people keep pitching so this idea fully flourishes and if not o wells it was kool well it lasted lol
<3

 

[cubaisdeath]

Well since it was my idea ill put my 2 cents in. Actually 3 cents since I’m feeling generous.

lol that made the post. on a side note, I think Champ starting doing this sort of thing with his gaming syndicate, only its for brawl, or something. regardless its one of the best ideas I've seen put into action.

 

[DJRome]

agreed. i wasn't suggesting this be put in place now, just discussing a possibility down the road when other possible funds may pop up.

btw, when's the next event for the gpf?

 

[Zoap]

so were bringing back shiz right.

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

I didnt contribute to the fund until after Shiz came.

But bring him to norcal was mad fun and hella hella hype.

Donated right at the end of the tourney, and that was to bring that hype and fun back to norcal for MY ENJOYMENT.

Dont really give ish about players going anywhere else really.

 

[pockyD]

let's fly in dj rome

 

[ahchoomattchu]

Get KoreanDJ back stateside!

 

[LumpyCPU...]

let's fly in dj rome

let's fly djrome to a tournament in canada

 

[DJRome]

it's prolly cheaper lol

 

[Crimson)S(hadow]

no lol m2k is pretty funny to hang out with I've housed him like 3 times

also mach dash definitely still plays melee, they got monthly tourneys in Osaka with like 40-50 entrants http://www.youtube.com/user/thundersjolteon

i talk to thunders on MSN a lot so I can contact japanese ppl :D

that said I don't think bringing over japanese/foreign smashers is REALLY that practical because of the high costs involved

soooo....

pc pc pc pc pc pc


edit: also, frankly, I bet the twins are **** o_O judging from vids, they obviously have some silly habits. but whenever they play each other it seems like they **** around a ton, go for HUGELY unnecessary **** off the ledge... i'm betting they'd do fine against USA top players. I mean look at Eddy, he's supposed to be not even close to them and he almost beat zhu :P

it would be AWESOME to have mach dash come here. to those who don't know about mach dash he's basically the SS of japan. it would be 'spensive though, and we wouldn't know how social he would be at hanging out =( but it would be nice to bring back the US-Japan smash connection that we had when Ken still played; so the next big US tourny would have Europe, Mexico, Canada, AND Japan smashers.

 

[PokemonMasterIRL]

Michael Hey lives in Japan a few months each year and is connected with their smash scene, it is a really do-able to bring Mach Dash over here.

 

[Rosedemon]

Haha, do-able.

 

[ConnorTheKid]

who cares about Mach Dash.

 

[keychain323]

bring darkrain to play isai

 

[KILLA.FOR.CASH.]

bring darkrain to play isai

darkrain would get 3 stocked on FD

 

[choknater]

fly in fly

 

[ZodiakLucien]

who cares about Mach Dash.

Phil and I do for starters

 

[Hypethug]

KDJ would b really cool.....

 

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