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It's the entire quoted paragraph ABOVE the one dealing with your independent actions and my analysis of it.
It's the bolded.
Iirc you voted X1 based on Inferno's play. You haven't actually pursued x1 from what I've seen.
God how do I respond to this lol.
), it's more a case of dumb/scum. He's loud and pushing his agenda which I usually like, but in most of his posts I fail to follow the underlying logic of how he's formulating his reads. I pointed some things out where is his reasoning is weird, i.e. where he got a Town read off of KevinM based on a connection. Even recently where he's trying to create a connection between Zen/Chaco. He's drawing conclusions I don't agree with from processes I can't follow, and it's not coming across as genuine. I'd flesh out a bigger argument on Kanty but frankly it's close to deadline and I'd be parroting most of what others like FF have said. As for my vote, I think out of all the popular wagons I dig the Kanty one the most.
No it isn't. That still doesn't tell me WHY ffs!
Suppose and then explain these scenarios: meta fits, and meta doesn't. The excuse of "I won't infer anything" isn't valid or else you wouldn't have asked this in the first place.
Thanks first off for the post Vandy, now I actually see your train of thought haha.God how do I respond to this lol.
RR has been pushing at things that aren't incredibly relevant. In his big catch up/reads posts, he basically discussed his feelings on a bunch of events, gave a bunch of nullish reads on most people, except for x1 and rockin. However after this, he hasn't followed up or pursued his dislike of these players like I'd expect him to. Instead he's humoured DH and Kantrip with arguments on sheeping, as if he has nothing else to say to the players he considers scum suspects. You're right in saying that there isn't a whole lot of "push" to my suspicion on him, but in a game with a stack of non-presences he's not exactly sticking his neck out by pushing HARD on those he believes to be scum.
Can I ask you to substantiate your Town read on him a bit more? If anything, it more seems like you're just going off gut based on his earlier interactions with Zen.
With Kantrip (I refuse to call him Kanty
For Chaco/Rockin, I mostly agree with what others have said about him, and didn't feel the need to elaborate as both have been fairly lacking in commentary and it's more a case of I want to see more concrete stuff from them, but I can understand the hate on them which is why I'd vote them if neccesary.
About me defending x1, I've been fine with him since he came into the game. I like him pushing his agenda and generally got TvT vibes from him/frozen. I wouldn't say he's exactly dropping town tells but I like that he's putting him out there, and the case (or there lack of) on him isn't convincing me. I'd keep him open for a future play but right now there are many better options, specifically those I've outlined.
On PL, I've liked Ran this game and have him at a town read. He's pushing things I like and his thought process is as clear as day. Admittedly I didn't read Joey's side of the Ran vs Joey argument, but I didn't see anything scummy from Ran's side.
I'd flesh out a bigger argument on Kanty but frankly it's close to deadline and I'd be parroting most of what others like FF have said. As for my vote, I think out of all the popular wagons I dig the Kanty one the most.
Excuse me? Did you actually read my paragraph on Kafk or did you just skim read the last sentence/FoS? Also where did I say I was suspecting Vandy? I said I found his posts as of late to be less than what I wanted especially from what I am used to him, if you recall from my reads list, I have Vandy as town and especially moreso considering the PL vs Joey argument. I say a lot of nothing towards Vandy? Than how did a bunch of nothing actually illicit quite a big response from Vandy, one that you are even asking him to bullet his points on you now that are finally known. What I wanted from Vandy was a more fleshed out version for what he was saying instead of it getting drowned in his catch up posts.
We have such a similar train of thought. I like you.so towns goin in a million directions and this day needs to end
I think he's giving you a hint OS. And a ticket to join a specific train.
You start off with a truthful statement. "[Your] gut is telling [you] they are scum."
Your gut is telling you they are scum because their posts have been null.
You don't like Sworddancer's choices for who should get vigged. And the scum intent is...? Seriously, not liking who he wants vigged is STILL NULL.
This point I can live with because it's there in black and white, whereas the rest of your points kind of have to be proven and yet aren't at all. I'd have to see the context of the votes you're talking about, which are more things that would be nice if you showed to demonstrate why they're scummy.
This last paragraph says the thing you dislike the most is that they haven't gotten their hands dirty yet. I still have yet to see why this is worse than null, but I guess it's because you have high expectations from the slot, seeing as coming from someone else you wouldn't give it the same attention. There are town reasons, scum reasons, and indy reasons for not getting your hands dirty, but you have yet to give anything that suggests it's one over the other.
That second paragraph only explains why you think we are not scum together, not why one of us IS scum. I just wanted to know why you think we can't both me town BESIDES the fact that you think we're both scummy. You've given me how we're not scum together, why we're scummy individually, and a whole lot of other things. But I've never gotten this one thing. I feel like you could just be acting stubborn so you don't have to be seen backpedaling or retracting things that weren't true.
you need to explain your orbo vote like I asked you too before.Suppose and then explain these scenarios: meta fits, and meta doesn't. The excuse of "I won't infer anything" isn't valid or else you wouldn't have asked this in the first place.
Getting town reads on Red Ryu, Dark Horse, Dooms, and I also want to change my scum read on Pink Lemonade to town lean:
unvote
Orbo on the other hand is still scum:
vote: Orboknown
Also, did a quick skim on frozen's posts and all I see is Kantrip, X1-12, and armchair critic
FoS: frozenflame751
uh? Let's see all your posts regarding X1-12 and your reason for this vote:
#389:
#391:
"lot of time passes and Macman doesn't even mention X1-12 in between; then he mentions him again in..."
Macman is scum regardless of X1-12's flip; calling it
100% serious about that accusationAround post #240. Orboknown is obv scum.. Immediate posture of trying to act like helpful, but the questions he made are incredibly non-leading-to-anywhere. Also, before D1 even started, he barely / didn't get involved in the TA discussion, but as soon as the game officialy began, he made a lot of questions focused on that issue; is like he saved those questions to show a strong D1's start.
FoS: Orboknown
