Celebrity Rehab Mafia: Day 5 Begins! Deadline is Monday, May 28th at 11:59 PM EST!

[Kafkaesque]

Well was making a catch up post but saw the claim, Okay then, you guys know the drill.

Any CC? Claiming not cop right now.

Lets lynch chaco now yes?

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Not town cop.

Do we have time to wagon someone else?

I dunno. I didn't really see him trying to survive or at least defend himself early in the Day.

The cop claim is kinda iffy.

 

[Overswarm]

I vote Pink lemonade makes the call whether we lynch X1 or not.

X1 could be a mafia member with a one shot

or

X1 could be a mafia member simply trying to out the cop prior to him being lynched

or

X1 could be the cop

or

X1 could be dumb town




my personal vote is that X1-12 stay alive and examines one of two people I give him each Night.

For Night one, my personal order to X1-12 is to inspect myself or Macman.

While we have to take a gamble if X1-12 is scum, scum has to take a gamble if X1-12 is town.

Due to me limiting X1-12's investigative choices, I'm also partially order the mafia NKill towards myself or Macman; else, town gets a "clear" of sorts. Should I die, someone else pick up the trend.

Should X1 be a town cop, fantastic. We get some info erry day that makes our job easier.

Should X1 be mafia, it'll become apparent pretty soon.

If we have a cop and it isn't X1, he should investigate the same people I'm ordering X1-12 to investigate.

Trackers and watchers can easily determine if X1-12 is lying, as he should only be visiting one of the two people I'm ordering him to visit. If he is scum, he can't throw out the NKill or use his other abilities.

Doctors or the sort can protect X1 if they so choose. Mafia has to gamble at wasting a NKill or killing X1-12 depending on someone else's actions.



This scenario is just as bad for mafia as it is for town.

 

[Overswarm]

Cop does NOT counter claim. Are you stupid? That is the worst possible scenario. That means that

A) X1 is mafia
B) Our cop is revealed when he would otherwise not be
C) Mafia gets a scenario that is basically as if X1 was town cop, even though he isn't

that is dumb

 

[Overswarm]

@mod request deadline extension

All else do the same. Use our options, this is the best time for it.

 

[Overswarm]

Marshy, I'm gonna have to request you pick not X1-12.

 

[X1-12]

Ok lets take a look at this wagon

RR, Macman, marshy, Kantrip, J, Frozenflame, KevinM

Between these there's been literally **** all reasoning for my votes. RR because of 1 post Inferno made in the first couple of pages. Macman and marshy have posted literally no evidence or attacks against me other than "Yeah I think he should die". Kantrip I don't think even has anything? J says he's leaning scum (not specified why) and would agree to my lynch for information. FF even says he's only joining so we get a wagon going and KevinM for the same reasons.

Unvote
Vote: Vinyl

Seriously people we need to start moving NOW

 

[Pink Lemonade]

I will take that responsibility.

...

X1 why the hell haven't you touched on that earlier in the damn day? (If you have I'm sorry, can you point me out to it?)

 

[Overswarm]

"He was V/LA" is the standard response that fits the bill.

What I'm more curious about is why he listed all those peopel that have **** all reasoning and then voted for Vinly without putting reasoning down.

 

[X1-12]

@Mod: Request Deadline Extension

Not gonna lie people waiting for everyone to CC is NOT going to work, we have less than 12 hours and we need to move fast to swing this wagon which is only half the players. To expect everyone to get online and not CC THEN swing the lynch is just stupid.

@Ran: Because there was no need to? When I left I wasn't the slightest bit worried that three or so people had votes on my just for the hell of it. I didn't expect another 3/4 votes to appears because people wanted wagons or for other retarted reasons. Seriously Ran did you not notice that all the votes and nearly all the posts appearing from marshy/mac/kev had no actual attacks on me

@OS: http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=14301183&postcount=571 Has why we should lynch Vinyl.

 

[Overswarm]

That case is like Jello. It's one of those cases that makes you say "oh duh!" after you see a flip, but in reality it's just piss poor design. It's pretty obvious you designed the case with Chaco scum already in mind rather than reading his posts and discovering his scum.

Anything else to throw to the table?

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Yes, I did notice. I have even stated that during the Day.

RR, Macman, Marshy, and Kantrip are the ones I'd keep an eye on.

But you didn't say a thing. You should have cared about it as early as possible. You just ignored the pressure and argued with FF about things I don't even know... I skimmed after the 3rd or so rounds of that.

@Os: Yes, I agree. It seems more like he is trying to garner up a counter wagon to scramble the town in such little time. Seriously wtf.

 

[Overswarm]

@Os: Yes, I agree. It seems more like he is trying to garner up a counter wagon to scramble the town in such little time. Seriously wtf.

Don't buddy me. I can and will get you lynched today if I so declare it. Don't test me on this. I haven't agreed with anything in that line.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

What's your problem? I said I agreed with your statement. And then I gave you my thought process. I'm not going to keep quiet when I have something to voice.

 

[X1-12]

@OS: No, I don't have anything more right now on the Vinyl slot considering Chaco didn't actually DO anything until about 50 posts before my attack on him, where I covered everything that he had done. Since then I haven't actually read the thread. What more do you expect me to bring up?

Ran how the hell would arguing over my pointless wagon when I was at L-4 or so a good use of my time?

 

[Pink Lemonade]

X1: It would have helped in directing the town towards a wagon that isn't you. But you didn't even try. So this seems to me like you were wasting town's time.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I gotta go out in a sec,

unvote

I'll be around all day, X1 did you crumb this, did Inferno crumb this from what you saw?

 

[Overswarm]

@OS: No, I don't have anything more right now on the Vinyl slot considering Chaco didn't actually DO anything until about 50 posts before my attack on him, where I covered everything that he had done. Since then I haven't actually read the thread. What more do you expect me to bring up?

Chaco lynch is a no go imo. What else do you have to offer?

What's your problem? I said I agreed with your statement. And then I gave you my thought process. I'm not going to keep quiet when I have something to voice.

No, you said you agreed with my statement and then added qualifiers I didn't add. Don't put words in my mouth.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

No that was just my thoughts. I don't see how my wording made you think I was tying it with your statement. I'll try to be more clear. (Maybe a "I also think")

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Derp meant, "when I get back I will be around all day."

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Red Ryu any quick thoughts on this before you go?

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Also X1. I don't see how your 'not caring' fits with your cop claim.

I mean wouldn't you be trying to survive and defend yourself a bit more so that you can live to:

1. Investigate
2. Not get lynched the next day to investigate some more

etc etc. I don't see how your mindset lines up with that pr.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Could be real, I'd be willing to see him do a night action before we think if he is real or not.

I do want my question answered about the crumbs.

He might be "mysteriously role-blocked", thought unlikely to believe this since a doc would be on him.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Could be, sure. But that's not definite.

What do you think of his actions compared to his claim?

 

[#HBC | marshy]

so im still fine with x1 dying. if yall seriously wanna keep him around when its very possible that a tailor/framer/lawyer/roleblocker/jailkeeper could totally and completely **** his results then cool

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'd have to reread, Vanz is right I've been pretty lazy lol that and prepping for irl stuff like Vengence.

From what I saw in the earlier posts...I don't see it as often.

 

[X1-12]

I did no more than skim inferno's posts so I have no idea if he crumbed it. I didn't.

OS I'm sorry you think that, what do you propose then? As far as I'm concerned Chaco/Vinyl lynch is the best answer at this point. Do you expect me to just whip up a case from nothing on someone? I've linked you to everything I had before V/LA and since then I have nothing because I haven't been able to read.

X1: It would have helped in directing the town towards a wagon that isn't you. But you didn't even try. So this seems to me like you were wasting town's time.

I didn't concern myself with stopping the pointless votes on me because I didn't think the wagon would come to anything or be of any importance. In the meanwhile I was attacking players, That is directing them to useful wagons. Your saying it doesn't fit my claim but see it from my point. I have three people going "lol vote x1" - Do you think I'm scared or worried? No I'm not because they're BS votes for BS reasons.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

so im still fine with x1 dying. if yall seriously wanna keep him around when its very possible that a tailor/framer/lawyer/roleblocker/jailkeeper could totally and completely **** his results then cool

This mindset asks too many what ifs and causes us to lynch potential town recklessly.

 

[Vinylic.]

The reason why chaco didn't do anything is because he was busy, as everyone is, of course.

I'm still catching up, but the wall of text is just makes me feel like it's boring.
Unfortunately, thanks to Os, I now have an easier way on who I can take suspicion on.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@Mod: Request Deadline Extension

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Vynil if you get confused just look at me, KevinM, or J for guidance.

 

[Overswarm]

OS I'm sorry you think that, what do you propose then? As far as I'm concerned Chaco/Vinyl lynch is the best answer at this point. Do you expect me to just whip up a case from nothing on someone? I've linked you to everything I had before V/LA and since then I have nothing because I haven't been able to read.

That post you linked had 3 players listed at the same level as chaco. I assume you have reasoning.



Marshy, why not just let him investigate once, claim his investigation, then kill 'em?

Unfortunately, thanks to Os, I now have an easier way on who I can take suspicion on.

You're welcome.

 

[Vinylic.]

Vynil if you get confused just look at me, KevinM, or J for guidance.

Gladly. Thanks, man.

 

[X1-12]

OS are you dense the same posts contain my points against those other players.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm ok with a CC for the record.

I'd trade a town for a scum any day.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

I didn't concern myself with stopping the pointless votes on me because I didn't think the wagon would come to anything or be of any importance.

In the meanwhile I was attacking players, That is directing them to useful wagons. Your saying it doesn't fit my claim but see it from my point. I have three people going "lol vote x1" - Do you think I'm scared or worried? No I'm not because they're BS votes for BS reasons.

Underlined. Your 'ignoring' the votes stalled the damn game. That is very anti-town. I haven't talked to you in a while so I don't remember how much belief you have in that. But I still think this is bull**** from ya man.

Yeah sure, this just seems to me like deflecting to others without even showing why your wagon was crap. Doesn't show that you are sincere. I also think there might be scum on your wagon if you flip scum.

Who cares if you are scared dude. It ain't something you can handwave, amirite X1???? I think this is something you of all people should know. Four votes on your wagon is a pretty big deal. Ignoring it because "lol bs votes" doesn't excuse you from not commenting on them either. Not liking your argument here.

 

[Overswarm]

OS are you dense the same posts contain my points against those other players.

That sounds like effort on the part of someone who isn't on the chopping block.

Shouldn't you be working a bit harder at not getting lynched? How many people you think clicked that link?

Copy/pasta those cases. Expand upon them if possible. Live or die, it is your best option.

Good job on getting yourself as a lynch target D1 in a large though. That takes some fancy footwork.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Currently returning from a field trip, will post hen I get home.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

will post hen

 

[Overswarm]

I'm ok with a CC for the record.

I'd trade a town for a scum any day.

This makes no mathematical sense.

Assume I'm cop and X1 is scum.

I CC
we lynch X1

I die in the Night.


I don't CC, and X1 is lynched.

We haev a hidden cop.

I don't CC, and X1 survives.

I investigate two people and then am NKilled on N3. I crumbed my innos. X1 is lynched because there is not going to be a second cop, but now we get two innos.

or, I'm put up to the lynch later adn claim cop, show my inno results, and then am lynched, flip town, then X1 is lynched and we have two innos.


Doesn't make any sense to CC now unless we know we have a watcher or doc.