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CASUAL ELITISTS vs COMPETITIVE ELITISTS!!!!
- Thread starter Gimpyfish62
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(scrub) I'm better than you. Prove me wrong. You can't. You've never played me. Blah blah blah! (/scrub)
choknater
Smash Obsessed
money match on the 15th? you going?
Kazydai
Smash Apprentice
Apparently, if you're a casual player, you have no place in Smashboards. I play pros, but if I choose not to wavedash, that's my deal. There's a difference between scrubs and casuals. I'm a casual and my bro is competitive. I win some, he wins some. We just both have fun.
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WRONG! It's not that casuals have no place on Smashboards. It's that casuals have no place telling competitive players they violate creator's intent, cheat, and don't know how to have fun. You are entitled your own opinion, and no one will hold it against you for choosing not to put the time in to learn advanced techniques. Just don't attempt to inflict your beliefs on others because then Smashboards will hate you.
Kazydai
Smash Apprentice
I know, I have an opinion. I don't like wavedashing. I think the pros are cool. I just don't like wavedashing.
Witchking_of_Angmar
Smash Lord
Then you are limiting yourself. Just let it be known.
FightingGameGuy
Smash Apprentice
Rofl. Just Rofl. This is great.
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Not necessarily. He is limiting himself from competitive play, sure, but if he doesn't care about competitive play, he is suffering no real limits. If anything, time invested into competitive play limits the rest of us from sunlight.
choknater
Smash Obsessed
Unless, of course, you practice your techskill outdoors.Not necessarily. He is limiting himself from competitive play, sure, but if he doesn't care about competitive play, he is suffering no real limits. If anything, time invested into competitive play limits the rest of us from sunlight.
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I've tried that. Unless you are under a tree (once again, blocking the sunlight), it is too hard to see the screen.
greenblob
Smash Lord
Addressing a few points:
1. Who cares if it wasn't "intended?" If you're not allowed to do anything that was unintended, any strategy or combo that wasn't foreseen would be cheating. Your playstyle might've been "unintended," so you could be "cheating."
2. Casual players have a place in SWF, but you have no place here if you can't accept the competitive scene. Telling people on the SWF that tournament rules is stupid is like going to a Korean StarCraft tournament and saying "hurr hurr 1v1 lost temple zerg rush only hurr" and "I only play 8v8 on fastest no rush 20 min."
1. Who cares if it wasn't "intended?" If you're not allowed to do anything that was unintended, any strategy or combo that wasn't foreseen would be cheating. Your playstyle might've been "unintended," so you could be "cheating."
2. Casual players have a place in SWF, but you have no place here if you can't accept the competitive scene. Telling people on the SWF that tournament rules is stupid is like going to a Korean StarCraft tournament and saying "hurr hurr 1v1 lost temple zerg rush only hurr" and "I only play 8v8 on fastest no rush 20 min."
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greenblob, stay out of my brain.
i bet my bowser plays just as nintendo intended
Very nice!
As it turns out, no one cares about your OPINION.
Lgndknight
Smash Ace
ooh you gonna need a band-aind for that burn!
on topic, yes, I'm sick and tired of the casual community whining about how the smallest things actually help. yes, L-cancelling is nice, if you can do it, but it's not like your own skill (or lack thereof) can overcome whatever obstacles. Humans are made to adapt and evolve, and failing to do that, in a nutshell, means you fail at being human.
on topic, yes, I'm sick and tired of the casual community whining about how the smallest things actually help. yes, L-cancelling is nice, if you can do it, but it's not like your own skill (or lack thereof) can overcome whatever obstacles. Humans are made to adapt and evolve, and failing to do that, in a nutshell, means you fail at being human.
Sliq
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Tell that to gimyFish as he seems to disagree.
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Yes we've masted HDTVs and widescreen but we still cannot beat sunlight XDI've tried that. Unless you are under a tree (once again, blocking the sunlight), it is too hard to see the screen.
Lgndknight
Smash Ace
he had safesearch on, had he not there might have been a website, somebody start one now to make people who post that feel like idiots. put some cool games on it too.
BigRick
Smash Master
oh lawd that ***** kazydai wants black sheik in brawl
This is fact. Trust me, I've tried.I've tried that. Unless you are under a tree (once again, blocking the sunlight), it is too hard to see the screen.
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Oh, how far we've come... XD
Blubba_Pinecone
Smash Ace
We should band together and develop a sun-proof TV! It would be amazing!
And then, when people get tired of us playing video games and tell us to go play outside, we can! Without sun interferance! They will be so pwned! xD
I hide from sunlight... >.> <.<
YoukoisaHOMO
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What's your lucky charms for a match Gimpy? A picture, or pairs of sunglass.
Mr.Lombardi34
Smash Ace
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As we've learned from the above link, Scrubs Are Scary.
I can't wavedash, big deal! I'm trying to learn wavedashing, not complain about it. Complaining about it being a glitch is an exuse for being too lazy to actually practice it.
Okay, so say it is actually a glitch. If everyone uses the glitch, it is not a glitch anymore. If everyone has an advantage, there is no advantage. Enough said.
Oh, I think that it is still a glitch even if everyone uses it (by some definitions, and not by others). I don't have anything against glitches. I like glitches, I play with glitches in other games (the tech glitch in Tales of Symphonia comes to mind), although I don't wavedash.
Seriously, if competitive players are having fun with the glitch, that's good for them! Who really cares? If you start calling people names because they play a freaking video game differently than you, then you are a jerk. If you insist that wavedashing is/isn't a glitch and everyone who disagrees with you is wrong, you are a jerk. I don't see why it matters. If you head over to a tournament and then get upset because people there are playing by tournament standards then, well, you are a jerk. By the same token, if you decide to go to a party and pwn n00bs with your competitive skillz, well, you are a jerk too!
Everyone should stop being jerks. I can hope, can't I?
Seriously, if competitive players are having fun with the glitch, that's good for them! Who really cares? If you start calling people names because they play a freaking video game differently than you, then you are a jerk. If you insist that wavedashing is/isn't a glitch and everyone who disagrees with you is wrong, you are a jerk. I don't see why it matters. If you head over to a tournament and then get upset because people there are playing by tournament standards then, well, you are a jerk. By the same token, if you decide to go to a party and pwn n00bs with your competitive skillz, well, you are a jerk too!
Everyone should stop being jerks. I can hope, can't I?
Endless Nightmares
Smash Master
IT'S NOT A ****ING GLITCH GTFO NOOB!!!
just kidding but saying that any advanced tech is a "glitch", or even mentioning the word "glitch" in a casual v competitive discussion is just asking for flames and argument.
just so you know. lol
just kidding
but saying that any advanced tech is a "glitch", or even mentioning the word "glitch" in a casual v competitive discussion is just asking for flames and argument.just so you know. lol
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And here I thought this topic was finally dying...
Barnacules
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My message to casuals:
Whenever you get beat by a competitive player, or even just watch them play, instead of declaring that they are cheating, being cheap, etc. ask them to teach you to do that. IMO, "competitive" play is way more fun than playing "casually", and I'm not saying you have to like it, just that you should try it.
Whenever you get beat by a competitive player, or even just watch them play, instead of declaring that they are cheating, being cheap, etc. ask them to teach you to do that. IMO, "competitive" play is way more fun than playing "casually", and I'm not saying you have to like it, just that you should try it.
Or, you know, don't ask them if you don't want to play competitively. Whatever. Just don't declare that they are cheating.
PS: if you're having a party in a clearly casual environment, competitives, follow casual rules. Don't laser spam, don't wavedash. Just like you insist on your rules at tournaments, casual parties might insist on their rules. Follow them or don't play. You have every right to tell a casual player who turns up at a competitive tournament and complains because everyone is "cheating" the same: follow our rules or don't play.
PS: if you're having a party in a clearly casual environment, competitives, follow casual rules. Don't laser spam, don't wavedash. Just like you insist on your rules at tournaments, casual parties might insist on their rules. Follow them or don't play. You have every right to tell a casual player who turns up at a competitive tournament and complains because everyone is "cheating" the same: follow our rules or don't play.
PNaleek
Smash Journeyman
This is probably the best thing i've read all day ^_^
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i8waffles612
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I love you Gimpy!
In Melee, I didnt play competitively at ALL.
Ima try to start playing competitively in Brawl
:D
In Melee, I didnt play competitively at ALL.
Ima try to start playing competitively in Brawl
:D
Crispy4001
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I completely agree that both sides need to settle there differences and just enjoy playing the game in whatever way they choose.
However, Smashboards is still the primary hangout for competitive players. Talk about Advanced Techniques is normal discourse around here, and the new scene of players need to realize that\'s not going to change.
Right now it is WAY too hard to maintain a discussion even somewhat related to AT without some idiot derailing the thread into another casual competitive debate.
However, Smashboards is still the primary hangout for competitive players. Talk about Advanced Techniques is normal discourse around here, and the new scene of players need to realize that\'s not going to change.
Right now it is WAY too hard to maintain a discussion even somewhat related to AT without some idiot derailing the thread into another casual competitive debate.
evilflame101
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lets all just brawl with each other!
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It's actually better that they resurrect a dead topic than start a new one on the same topic. If they wanna discuss it, they did the right thing.
Matt Silver
Smash Journeyman
I would get along *if * the mutiplayers stop bagging on Single Player - what's wrong with just fighting the computer if you're just a casual, or you suck and like beating the computer. :D