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Can we call Armada the best now?
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ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
I gotta go eat soooo I guess you win.i dont even use my roy in tournament because i dont want to crush everyones hopes and dreams of being good at smash so i just use fox and falco
i dont need any money grandma just gave me some for my 8th birthday but if i do ill just bring out the roy or sandbag in pools to win amateur bracket.
venture towards me male sibling
But I'm a bum so I need that 5 dollars for the dollar menu.
I just wasted your time.
crush
Smash Master
ill money match you irl at rom 4 or apex?I gotta go eat soooo I guess you win.
But I'm a bum so I need that 5 dollars for the dollar menu.
I just wasted your time.
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
Hrrrrrm, Idk which ever one I can make it to. :3
Now mods, fire away.
Now mods, fire away.
tc1
Smash Lord
mango didn't go puff
/ends thread
/ends thread
crush
Smash Master
-ShadowPhoenix-
Smash Bash
lmfao i lol'd so hard at this post
SmashMac
Smash Lord
In answering the topic, you can't take one tournament and accurately judge someone in comparison to everyone else. The player needs to consistently place the same if not very close in multiple tournaments. For instance, Taj and Shroomed. Both amazing players, and apparently up and coming. However, you can't say they're 3rd best and 5th best respectively until they place the same or close to it in multiple tournaments. Probably after about 4 or 5 tournaments where everyone it's at is when it's safe to say so.
Beat!
Smash Master
Err..........
I mean, I'm still not saying Armada's the best, but he fills this criteria at least ^^
Aber
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NeutralDamage
Smash Journeyman
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Yes you can call him the best, I approve this time.
to be fare, puff is one of pp's best MU by far these days. The guy's studied it like a science. Also he said he was playing at his best (moreso than how he played all weekend) when he played against mango in friendlies, on I believe day 2. He described mango's puff as being old school.(not being able to handle the falco's pressure game)mangos puff got 3 stocked by dr. peepee
dr. peepee did worse than shroomed
your argument is invalid
Maybe mango may have done better with puff against a floaty(armada's peach), but from what I can tell his fox was his best bet that day. Also it's highly unlikely armada would've stayed peach (CP with YL) based on the results he's yielded against hbox.
NeutralDamage
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Y.link counter would have not worked since mango has mastered other high tiers. If mango could have beaten armada's peach with puff, he prob would have won. Armada was the best.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
This thread is mad dumb.. lolll. The one that has the belt is the best, now stfu.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
It's just like.. if a challenger beats the champion, is he not the best? lol. Or does he have to defend the title x100 times before he's considered the best? Umm..
Exactly...
stelzig
Smash Lord
No, being champion and being the best isn't the same thing. Though the best will more often become champion because he's the best... Champion is just a title.
It's especially silly to conclude someone has to be the best becayse he narrowingly won a single match/set.
(As an example.... I can admit that Denmark wasn't the best football team in europe in 1992 even though we won the tournament that year)
It's especially silly to conclude someone has to be the best becayse he narrowingly won a single match/set.
(As an example.... I can admit that Denmark wasn't the best football team in europe in 1992 even though we won the tournament that year)
Sinji
Smash Master
Too much pride on this thread.
lets keep it friendly.
lets keep it friendly.
guys i told you all the time that armada is the best player in the world. and that the losses on previous tournaments could be explained. he has never been worse than anyone else its just the fact that he run into hard matchups or was just unlucky/had a bad day. you considered hungrybox better than armada after apex and just half a year later hungrybox couldnt even stand a chance.
also you really like calling me a fanboy but especially those who do so are johnning now for mango to no end. but with the most ridicilous johns ever, like mango wanted armada to win or puff woulde have done it or mango did 5 suicides in the set (lol) or he played a too agressive style and so on.
the only thing what seperates me from you is that my posts are actually serious
also you really like calling me a fanboy but especially those who do so are johnning now for mango to no end. but with the most ridicilous johns ever, like mango wanted armada to win or puff woulde have done it or mango did 5 suicides in the set (lol) or he played a too agressive style and so on.
the only thing what seperates me from you is that my posts are actually serious
Sinji
Smash Master
I'm a fan of my own self. You'll see why at apex. you'll all see.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Ya but everyone seems to care about it.. when the debate is ****ing stupid.
DAS
Smash Ace
Its no big deal Armada won and he deserved it. Better luck next time and even if hes the best ok doesn't mean it has to last forever, so just try harder.
Yung Mei
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ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
poundslaparmadasballssomemore amirite
weslo
Smash Apprentice
hehe, i get it, because pound slapped armada's balls when he went.
crush
Smash Master
etwist and weslo have the same exact brawl friend codes
THEY'RE TEH SAME PERSON111!!!!!!!11111!1!
but how come i love etwist and hate weslo?
ETWIST IS BI-POLAR!!11!1!!!!!1!1!
isn't charlie sheen bi-polar too?
ETWIST IS CHARLIE SHEEN!!!11!!!11!!!!!!1111!
THEY'RE TEH SAME PERSON111!!!!!!!11111!1!
but how come i love etwist and hate weslo?
ETWIST IS BI-POLAR!!11!1!!!!!1!1!
isn't charlie sheen bi-polar too?
ETWIST IS CHARLIE SHEEN!!!11!!!11!!!!!!1111!
ETWIST51294
Smash Hero
I did you find out???
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edit: I know Weslo irl though. lol Like no bull****.
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edit: I know Weslo irl though. lol Like no bull****.
weslo
Smash Apprentice
haha, for a second there i thought you were saying etwist was pretty. but don't even try to say he gets as much booty as charlie.
Declaring someone "the best" due to a single win where the win came at the helm o a 3-2 set is a bit premature, Johns for either side aside. At this single tournament, yes, Armada was the best. He is also, due to Genesis 2's nature, the reigning World Champion. It is pre-mature to declare him "The best" or "Not the best".
For the moment, he's "the champion".
Yes, Armada completely dominates European tournaments, but that doesn't mean he's automatically better than Mango just because he beat Mango this one time. Likewise, Mango completely dominates the American scene, but that doesn't mean he's automatically better than Armada just because he's only lost to him once.
These two have gone up against each other several times and each time, it's a close finish. Neither side dominates the other, thus they are both close. What's more important is that since they play completely different characters with completely different styles, one cannot say "Oh, X is better than Y because X beat Y". One measures one's superiority in skill not on whether or not one can beat one's opponent but by whom one can beat in relation to said opponent.
I.e., it is not a case of A beats B = A > B but a case of A beats C, D, E while B doesn't = A > B. If one can beat roughly the same players as one's opponent, then it comes down to by how much.
Either way, it is premature to declare either player superior to the other, especially when they're so close in skill both against each other and others. For now, Armada is the champion. Is he currently better than Mango? That is still up in the air. The difference between these two players may be so infinitesimal that they might routinely switch positions in who's better at any given time.
And why is it so important to declare either the world's best player, anyway? What are you, blind fanboys? For now, I'd call them two of the world's most if not the world's two most skilled players.
For the moment, he's "the champion".
Yes, Armada completely dominates European tournaments, but that doesn't mean he's automatically better than Mango just because he beat Mango this one time. Likewise, Mango completely dominates the American scene, but that doesn't mean he's automatically better than Armada just because he's only lost to him once.
These two have gone up against each other several times and each time, it's a close finish. Neither side dominates the other, thus they are both close. What's more important is that since they play completely different characters with completely different styles, one cannot say "Oh, X is better than Y because X beat Y". One measures one's superiority in skill not on whether or not one can beat one's opponent but by whom one can beat in relation to said opponent.
I.e., it is not a case of A beats B = A > B but a case of A beats C, D, E while B doesn't = A > B. If one can beat roughly the same players as one's opponent, then it comes down to by how much.
Either way, it is premature to declare either player superior to the other, especially when they're so close in skill both against each other and others. For now, Armada is the champion. Is he currently better than Mango? That is still up in the air. The difference between these two players may be so infinitesimal that they might routinely switch positions in who's better at any given time.
And why is it so important to declare either the world's best player, anyway? What are you, blind fanboys? For now, I'd call them two of the world's most if not the world's two most skilled players.
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