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Can Marth become top tier again?

Brookman

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I'd like to ammend my original statement:


Just beat the other player. Stop fighting vs. sheik.
 

OverLord

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No man trust me. You all can not even imagine how good he is. He changed metagame to a whole new level. I spent two days watching him play and trust me, there is nothing in all the videos I've ever seen that can be compared to what he does. Even M2K is left behind in front of his gameplay against spacies. (especially against Falcos)

I know it's difficult to believe me and can seem I'm doing big assumption, but soon everyone we'll see.

Anyway I tried to convince him to go to Apex, but I don't know if he's actually going.
 

Dart!

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There's nothing wrong with supporting your boy. I've seen some of his combos. pretty nasty. Hopefully he adjusts to buffed up NTSC marth. He gets a bit reliant on counter from ledge and drops a few edgeguards that could cost him at apex.
 

TheZhuKeeper

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every marth is ahead of me vs falco. fox is different
Yeah I always wondered why. Is it cause Falco has lasers and shuts down the dash game? I notice you're really good at the dash dance / spacing game in particular, which seems to work better against Fox, would you say that's the main reason you're better against Fox?
 

Divinokage

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Heh sometimes it's your style that might be too predictable vs Falco. I mean all the Ganons are better at the Falco matchup than me, same deal. lol.
 

BigD!!!

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i'd just like to commend spam arrows on the best john ive ever seen

just testing out p4 slot, not a real match
 

OverLord

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Jason, if you ever come to play with Ice, your game against Falco is gonna be amazing.

Ice-Falco is like 65-35.
 

Archangel

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i'd just like to commend spam arrows on the best john ive ever seen

just testing out p4 slot, not a real match
Taken out of context: To take something out of context is to ignore the overall meaning of an utterance in order to assign undue importance or meaning to a part of it.

There is. We played Singles only a bit but we played teams all night. I only play P3 Slot so it was more or less testing out P4 slot is all...nothing serious. Not to mention PBnJ's visit was the reason i played. Before that I hadn't played for about 4 months....still if it entertains you enough to see someone lose in a friendly...I'm glad you mentioned it though. I haven't seen those videos in like...8 or 9 months now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ezni91fb2zU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRusE9aQKgo

These matches aren't bad though for Rust_arrows. I think the dissapointment at Rapex caused me to hate smash for a little bit but playing this day got me back into it otherwise I probably would've quit so...yeah it's good to see these again. Thanks bro .
 

BigD!!!

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i really didnt mean hardly anything by it, its just definitely the wackiest one ive ever heard, you probably should have just said i was just messing around
 

Archangel

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i really didnt mean hardly anything by it, its just definitely the wackiest one ive ever heard, you probably should have just said i was just messing around
well.....i didn't expect someone to pick at it. It is what it is I was salty over my P3 slot but I think Bombz had to take a **** or something so we play friendies until he was done...there are like alot friendly teams matches put into sets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKAqSFadjuk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqZt6dqF9j0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3USTiTrI3YA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehBXKjiQY3g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTjTXtEJCsg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dXjdOeDSQ_c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZL93Zw-ss4I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ4h5iNLvE8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35AnFyConY0


This is pretty much what we did. As you can see by alot of the character it was complete douching around.....lol. I didn't even want to play smash anymore I was...dissapointed with how bad I played at Apex and considering the effort and things that went wrong prior to going there I Rage-quit playing for months. This was the first time playing it since august. Thats all there is too it.
 

Niko45

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Pretty bold claim to say Ice is ahead vs Falco when Taj JUST beat the top 2 Falco players. Not saying it's automatically wrong, I'm just interested to see the vids.
 

Max?

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Pretty sure Taj beat the two best Falcos at Genesis. Who uses Falco that is close to PP or Mangos level in Europe?
 

OverLord

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lol guys

You really don't know what you're talkin' about.

It's like, so funny, like lol, I don't know, I hope Ice goes to Apex so I won't seem that crazy all around the board :D.

Anyway Aldwyn did better than Sick-PP, just sayin'.
 

Divinokage

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lol guys

You really don't know what you're talkin' about.

It's like, so funny, like lol, I don't know, I hope Ice goes to Apex so I won't seem that crazy all around the board :D.

Anyway Aldwyn did better than Sick-PP, just sayin'.
ya but healthy PP beat Armada no johns. =) And he's gonna lose to me if he comes, he wont get to face the top falcos. =P Nom nom marths.
 

leffen

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what are you talking about? he beat leffen and ***** loser's bracket at BEAST II
clearly the best.
lmfao. so yeah, I'm pretty bad vs and I feel like if I were at the top of my game I
would've taken some games of Ice but im 100% certain he would still have won.

Ice is probably the best marth in the world vs Falco, while Taj beat sick PP and Mango's falco I'm honestly pretty sure Ice would've too. Neither Mango nor PP were honestly on top of their game and there were a lot of of random **** (randall). Not taking anything from taj at all, he is definitely up there with Ice but you dont see him have any consistency whatsoever tbh, he didnt even get out of pools at Pound V.

It's just silly to make stupid claims when Ice hasnt even played NTSC vs falco (which is MUCH better for marth!) t and Taj has just starting placing in the very top.
Just chill overlord ;)

oh and dont underestimate me you **** ; ))))
 
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