Buffer'd Up-Airs out of Shield, Metaknight and Diddy are gay [see inside for details]

[culexus・wau]

Things to note.

- Doing a buffer'd Short Hop Upair is harder, but hits lower then Full hop Upair, Some characters [like diddy] standing will not be hit by Full hop Up-air but will be tagged by SH Upair.

-This is all on standing characters, a lot of characters can probably avoid our uair by crouching or using dtilts on our shield.

- On the flip side, don't be discouraged if someone short can't be hit by this standing, this is still a godlike anti-air.

Group A - Can be hit by full hop Uair.

Wario
Mario
Probably Everyone Else

Group B - Can be hit by SH Uair only.

Ness
Lucas
Diddy
Toon Link
Ivysaur

Group C - Can be hit by SH Uair only with precise spacing on the tip of her foot. may or may not be unreliable.

Kirby
G&W
Olimar - moderate difficulty
Jigglypuff
Ice Climbers - moderate difficulty
Squirtle

Group D - this character cannot be hit by SH Uairs of any kind

Pikachu

Group E - these characters can be hit by SH buffered uair from behind.

Snake
Marth
Ike
Falco
Captain Falcon
King Dedede
ROB
Pit
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Link
Zelda [but not sheik]
Ganondorf
Yoshi [you have to hit his head with the heel, if he has his back towards you it whiffs]
DK [Same thing as yoshi, if he has his back to you it whiffs]
Bowser

Group F - these characters if spaced correctly, get hit by FH buffered uair from behind.

Snake
Ganondorf

Group G - these characters if spaced corretly, get hit by SH buffered uair crouching.

DK
Bowser
Ganondorf
Samus
King Dedede
Charizard
ROB [you have to hit his head]
Wario [You have to hit his head, difficult to space]

Group K -gets hit by FH buffered Uair if crouching

Bowser
Ganondorf
Samus
King Dedede

Group L - is only hittable during certain parts of the idle animation :|

Metaknight
Wolf

Group M - dodges sh uair during certain parts of the idle animation [crouching and sticking his *** into the air]

Diddy

No character gets hit by the back hitbox of FH buffered uair crouching.

Performing:

Hold Up on the control stick lightly. too little results in nair, too much upsmash.
input jump + attack, you can't C-stick this or you'll get upsmash.

How I do SH Uair out of shield:
Put the tip of your thumb on Y and the base of it on A. flick it across Y and A.

YES IT HITS METAKNIGHT

**** IT MAY BE IMPRACTICAL DUE TO SPACING ISSUES.

Other Fun Facts about buffered Uair:

You can B.Uair -> Nair [1st hit]

You can Buffer SH Uair into a footstool for a techchase, at higher %s [60+] you can B.FH Uair into footstool, but they can airdodge, however you can react afterwards so its all good.

 

[Zero]

Does it hit lower than unbuffered SH uair OOS?

Good effort.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I love you <3

 

[culexus・wau]

probably ruby.

 

[Nefarious B]

Zero it removes any input error from a SH uair, so yeah it should be unless you were frame perfect before. I didn't think we could hit wario at all with rising uair, let alone a buffered FH uair o.

I definitely could never hit olimar no matter what spacing so this is sexy

 

[culexus・wau]

just don't mess up and grab.

that would be terrible.

10chargedUpsmashes

 

[Ussi]

What is the horizontal range on this?... got a hitbox image?

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

FYI, jab jab to this is ****ing ridiculously good.

 

[solecalibur]

who has the hitbubbles for uair to give ussi an idea?

 

[culexus・wau]

More groups added, tested what gets hit from BEHIND.

Now you can't even say Uptilt has cross-up protection over this ****.

edit: added crouchers

 

[culexus・wau]

Uair:

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Middle

Almost complete

Near the end - this is the hitbox that produces the sourspot uair

copy and pasted from allisbrawl.

 

[Z1GMA]

This is what I was talking about when I mentioned DA -> Frame Perfect Rising SH Uair, on Wario.

At around 40% it seem to always, ALWAYS work on my friend's Wario.
(Like if it was a true combo)

But SFP told me it shouldn't work(too slow), so I'll trust him
Maybe my friend doesn't shield after the DA.

Anyway, I really believe DA -> Frame Perfect Rising SH Uair at around 40% can be effective.
...If they don't shield, they're pretty much garantueed to be hit by the Uair.
And if they're confident you'll go for a garantueed Jab/Ftilt/Dtilt/Utilt/DA, they won't see any point in even trying to shield.

Legit Mix-up?

 

[culexus・wau]

I don't have frame advance.

someone should test that it sounds legit.

random note:

snake can crawl under our uptilt

 

[Nefarious B]

yeah utilt doesn't hit low, Pikachu can dodge it with some of his aerial landings if we try to utilt OOS.

I wouldn't be surprised if DA to uair was legit at some percents, I don't think anyone has ever actually tested our frame advantage from DA, it's such a good move for strings that the hitbox placement seems more important as long as our move is relatively fast.

SFP what makes you say jab jab uair is good? I see it being pretty easily punished honestly

 

[culexus・wau]

So like.

is there any reason to utilt anymore.

lol

except like the people we can't hit with upair OOS, but really :>


Its also really funny that pikachu is the only character not to get hit by this.

ESAM is laughing at all of us probably.

Zero Suit is pikachu's trainer in brawl too. :>

 

[Zero]

Wait, you can hit OLIMAR, but you can't hit Pikachu?

That **** is messed up

 

[culexus・wau]

idk theres some weird bond between ZSS and Pikachu.

Electric Attacks? idk.

maybe even...

Spoiler

Love?

but in other news.

Buffered SH Uair to Nair is sexy. wish the 2nd hitbox came out though

 

[Nefarious B]

utilt is better out of a spotdodge. You can use it after baiting an airdodge with a autocanceled uair to restart the juggle. It's the most damaging follow up out of a dash lock and works at much lower percentages than a buffered uair might (may not even work at all).

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

What's this furry ****?

 

[culexus・wau]

the bond between humans and pokemon.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I swear to god I hate those types of "comics" when I'm browsing >: (

 

[culexus・wau]

worse things exist on the internet.

gelbooru + pikachu samus_aran

don't tell me I didn't warn you

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

gelbooru? Eh, no thanks. I never visited that site but I don't think I want to either. I'll just stick to Fakku and Lu.Scio.Us

 

[culexus・wau]

never heard of that 2nd one

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Just type it in like that. It's amazing imo :3

 

[Zero]

gelbooru is great xonar you massive scrub

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

I'll try it out in the near future : D

 

[NickRiddle]

I don't wanna do this.
I just wanna up-tilt.

 

[solecalibur]

utilt has a lot of lag , try it out in friendlies this weekend at least and thanks flame for making me want to never open my computer in public when im reading this board xD

 

[Deleted member]

Wow...even the ZSS boards have furry discussion.

 

[Nefarious B]

Well FWK is Lucario, you can't blame this on us

 

[NickRiddle]

Lucario shows up, makes us talk about furry ****.
**** Lucario, man.

 

[Deleted member]

It's not just the Lucario mains.

Espy, where you at? :3

 

[Espy Rose]

This pleases me a GREAT deal.
I love you, NickRiddle.
So very much.

 

[NickRiddle]

**** furries.

Wait, that makes you become furry...

****it, what do I do?!

 

[Espy Rose]

Let it consume you, Nick.
It's much easier that way. :>

 

[NickRiddle]

Let it consume you, Nick.
It's much easier that way. :>

Get out of here!
I refuse to be a furry.

Except towards cat-girls, but that's it!
And that was before I knew what a furry was.

LEAVE ME ALONE ESPY!

 

[Zero]

Bunny girls too. I've already discussed this with them, it does not make you furry.

Just don't visit #lucario or LSGD for extended periods of time...

 

[Espy Rose]

It does make you furry, Ruby.
Rule of thumb: X% furry = 100% furry.

No exceptions.

 

[NickRiddle]

But I dun wanna wear a fur-suit, and cat-girls are only hot drawn...
Does that just make me lame?