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Britches and Hose Mafia - Game Over!

Kantrip

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No I am saying that using meta of games where the person in question was a different alignment is unreliable. Not to mention that was my first queue game in DGames and I hadn't really played enough to get my own idea on the game.
 

adumbrodeus

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No I am saying that using meta of games where the person in question was a different alignment is unreliable. Not to mention that was my first queue game in DGames and I hadn't really played enough to get my own idea on the game.
Ok then.


vote: Serin

Still conflicts just strongly with what you claim to do in RVS. You were definitely town in newbie and it conflicts just as strongly with your self-meta.
 

Kantrip

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As I said I hadn't really played enough to have my own grasp of the game at that point.

Although it's amusing that you're pulling this stuff up :laugh:
 

adumbrodeus

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As I said I hadn't really played enough to have my own grasp of the game at that point.

Although it's amusing that you're pulling this stuff up :laugh:
This is only your forth game, and you replaced into Majora's Mask after RVS. I cited the other two games, so where exactly is this self-meta coming from then?
 

Kantrip

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Two games I've played in the Disco Room as well as me just re-reading through my own games and thinking about how to go about things.
 

Kantrip

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Here are my opening quotes from the most recent Housepets mafia in the DR. These aren't until around 3 pages in due to me being out of the house when the game started.

What's going on in this ga-

Wow.

Deja-vu.

Vote: John2k4

Hey buddy.
This was referring to how JTB was pulling a gambit that Red Ryu had done very recently that involved claiming a daycop guilty on one of the newer players. The vote on John was random, even though the game was already out of RVS.

That's interesting... How's it going my Kongmunist buddy, why the vote? :b:
Because you're confirmed scum. It says so in my role pm.
Someone go get the water, Kantrip's gone looney again. :p
Short interaction that followed between John and me. His reaction was unexpected to me, writing it off as me being "looney", and I noted it (albeit falsely) as a scum tell.

Are you accusing me of something, Tery?

Oh wait, JTB's aggressive fake claim got us out of RvS, already? Man...

Unvote
What you were doing was obvious to me, but probably because I saw the exact same thing done by Red Ryu in MMM.

Unfortunately it didn't get much accomplished because people ruined it and stuff.

@Tery, explain how distancing is a distraction, and your reasoning for accusing me of such a thing.
Yeah I definitely acted like it was RVS even though RVS was over, and I made a vote on a randomly decided person that I pursued to get a read on.



Yeah you can interpret this how you will.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Red Ryu said:
Y u vote me?
I seen you lurk the thread and enter it about 3-4 times now, i was curious and worried about it because i would assume town RR would instantly come in the thread with something, your passive play (only by hypothesis) seemed like you had something on your mind but couldn't say it.

i voted you to see if you would come out of the wood-work.

Everybody stop voting Kantrip. the interaction between Adum v. Kantrip is iherently TvT, if another vote goes on Kantrip, you are scum.

Prior to this, i am curious and also worried about felipe, instantly jumping on Kantrip for no reason whatsoever, using poor statements as "Dat OMGUS."

@everyone give me your read on felipe, don't bull**** it.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I could say i care for Sokr's vote also but it at least had some sort of townie vibe to it.

also, i'm null on july.

i don't like being null on july.
IGMEOY July.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I think this game has a mixture of your logic vs. their logic.

I see kantrip's logic as much as i see Adum's logic, Adum has solitary reasoning and i would agree to it if i didn't already see what Kantrip was doing, this helps that i felt the intent and purpose behind his actions back then, which i believe i explained.

The latest banter between Adum v Kantrip is the same thing, but i think Adum needs to get his head together and stop tunneling, i've seen him do this in MMX.

there's been enough pressure on Kantrip's slot, the only thing we could do now is if you really believed he was scum was to force a claim out of him, and i don't want that.

remember, i still want a read on felipe.
 

July

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I seen you lurk the thread and enter it about 3-4 times now, i was curious and worried about it because i would assume town RR would instantly come in the thread with something, your passive play (only by hypothesis) seemed like you had something on your mind but couldn't say it.

i voted you to see if you would come out of the wood-work.

Everybody stop voting Kantrip. the interaction between Adum v. Kantrip is iherently TvT, if another vote goes on Kantrip, you are scum.

Prior to this, i am curious and also worried about felipe, instantly jumping on Kantrip for no reason whatsoever, using poor statements as "Dat OMGUS."

@everyone give me your read on felipe, don't bull**** it.
Felipe is null to me, honestly he seems really random and for that reason, really hard to read. Despite what he says I think he is sheeping other players, his reasons in #103 for suspecting Kantrip are just a synthesis of what Adum and others have said about Kantrip, but he could do that as town or scum.

Why is the interaction between Adum and Kantrip "inherently" TvT?
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I'll explain it more when i have time, i had to sum up a bit in my above post if i ninja'd you.

and okay, does my meta experience with Felipe make you to trust my read on him more?

let's say i think he is scum, does that change your mind, if, at all?

well i just got ninja'd myself, damn shame.

i'm off to work, i'll be back around noon on my break.
 

felipe_9595

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Felipe is null to me, honestly he seems really random and for that reason, really hard to read. Despite what he says I think he is sheeping other players, his reasons in #103 for suspecting Kantrip are just a synthesis of what Adum and others have said about Kantrip, but he could do that as town or scum.

Why is the interaction between Adum and Kantrip "inherently" TvT?
Iirc, i posted that before adumb, when i started read Kantrip the first thing that came to mind was "OMGSUS". If he did psot before, it doesnt care, i am not sheeping, i really got that read.
 

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1. adumbrodeus (2) RR, Kantrip
2. Seikend ()
3. Terywj ()
4. Sokr (1) JTB
5. Kantrip (4) adumbrodeus, Asdioh, Sokr, Felipe
6. Sworddancer. ()
7. JTB ()
8. Swiss ()
9. Soupamario (1) Sworddancer
10. Felipe_9595 ()
11. July ()
12. Asdioh ()
13. Red Ryu (2) Tery, Soup

Not voting - Seikend, Swiss, July,

With 13 playing, it takes 7 to lynch!

Deadline is November 17th at 11:59 PM CST (GMT-6)!
 

Sokr

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I would tell you to look through past mafia games and try to find me. I'm not gonna waste my efforts in this trying to prove I'm a newb. it would be of no benefit to me. However, I'm sure my gameplay will prove it enough for me.

:phone:
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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I would tell you to look through past mafia games and try to find me. I'm not gonna waste my efforts in this trying to prove I'm a newb. it would be of no benefit to me. However, I'm sure my gameplay will prove it enough for me.

:phone:
You should clarify on why it would.
 

#HBC | Red Ryu

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You should have some more confidence imo.

Nothing is wrong with being a newb take it as a learning experience each step at a time, I did the same a year ago.

What do you think of Soup and Kantrip?
 

Seikend

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So uhh.

I'm pretty sure the game being so late to start was my fault, sorry 'bout that. Was at a fireworks night party, didn't get back until late last night.

I've skimmed the thread, let's see...


Kantrip Vs. Adum. I mean, Adum looks better out of the argument but only marginally. Kantrip's responses have been defensive but I wouldn't say that's a scumtell at all. Buuuuut a lot of his reponses seem unfocused and just a lot of questions. On the other hand I've liked Adum's pressure up until the self-meta point. I think at that point the argument just got silly.


I think Soup's statement that the Kantrip/Adum argument is inherently TvT is wack as hell but I do agree that looking at other players besides them would be good.


@Sokr Is defensiveness a scumtell? When you say something smells scummy behind Kantrip's actions do you have any reason for that or is it purely "gut"?

@Asdioh Asdeeeohhh. Your writing style is so confusing now .__. Your rherotical questioning makes it hard to tell if you're actually wanting someone to respond to a question or not.

What's your current reads on Tery and Felipe?

In your #81 you seem to have suspicions of Soup but you don't ask him any questions to follow up those suspicions. Ask them please.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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I agree swiss, he is interesting.

Are you thinking what I'm thinking?
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Oh hello seikend, pleasant afternoon to you.

Explain? Are you leaning one being town, and the other being scum?

Or is it SvS?
@everyone: read on felipe, don't bull****.
 

Asdioh

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Asdioh I don't think this writing style is working. Leave the poetic third person to Swiss.


A smirk tugged at my lips. Indeed, my role PM had said nothing about a "third person" posting restriction.


Looking at July's 117, the thought "What, exactly, are her stances?" snuck it's way into my head. I frowned slightly.


This is only your forth game, and you replaced into Majora's Mask after RVS. I cited the other two games, so where exactly is this self-meta coming from then?
@JTB: Please check his disco room games and dump relevant quotes about Kantrip's RVS behavior in the thread.
Creepy.
 

Asdioh

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I seen you lurk the thread and enter it about 3-4 times now, i was curious and worried about it because i would assume town RR would instantly come in the thread with something, your passive play (only by hypothesis) seemed like you had something on your mind but couldn't say it.

i voted you to see if you would come out of the wood-work.
My thoughts flew back to D.graymanfia. Red Ruy was lurking so hard there that my scummates and I decided to call him out on it... but indeed, he can lurk as town.

Prior to this, i am curious and also worried about felipe, instantly jumping on Kantrip for no reason whatsoever, using poor statements as "Dat OMGUS."

@everyone give me your read on felipe, don't bull**** it.
I decided to bull**** it. "Town," I said confidently.
 

Asdioh

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Adum v Kantrip
It was around this point that I realized it would go down in history as "Adum vs Kantrip" and not Adum/Asdioh vs Kantrip." Alas, for coming into the thread a couple hours too late!

 

Asdioh

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I glared furiously at the spot where my quotation marks should have been, ruing the day when quickedits were removed.
 

adumbrodeus

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I think this game has a mixture of your logic vs. their logic.

I see kantrip's logic as much as i see Adum's logic, Adum has solitary reasoning and i would agree to it if i didn't already see what Kantrip was doing, this helps that i felt the intent and purpose behind his actions back then, which i believe i explained.

The latest banter between Adum v Kantrip is the same thing, but i think Adum needs to get his head together and stop tunneling, i've seen him do this in MMX.

there's been enough pressure on Kantrip's slot, the only thing we could do now is if you really believed he was scum was to force a claim out of him, and i don't want that.

remember, i still want a read on felipe.
Alright soup, point taken (even though that was mostly ryker's fault). Rereading a bit and his more recent posts seem a great deal more composed and generally townie, the sudden change seems weird from a scum slot under such heavy fire. Less sure, I wanna hear JTB's answer before proceeding.


Also @Kantrip: What's your opinion of my slot now? If it's changed, as of what post did it change.



@Swiss: what are your thoughts on Kantrip?


@Soup: Felipe is null. Nothing he's said leans particularly townie or scummy. Also answer my question please.



You should clarify on why it would.
Answer my question RR.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Direct me to it, adum.

Poor asdioh, he must be a bitter old man.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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132, first paragraph.

RR, I'm waiting for the magic before I unvote you.
 

felipe_9595

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Sopu, did you read my post??? i didnt jump on Kantrip, Didmt Sheep or got on the wagon. I had a scum read on him, thats why ia m voting him.
 

Asdioh

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The questions regarding Sokr's newbiness seemed fruitless to me. I knew that I would read his slot without meta, and that was for the better. The same held true for Adumbrodeus, and anyone else I had played with that I didn't remember very well.
@Asdioh Asdeeeohhh. Your writing style is so confusing now .__. Your rherotical questioning makes it hard to tell if you're actually wanting someone to respond to a question or not.

What's your current reads on Tery and Felipe?

In your #81 you seem to have suspicions of Soup but you don't ask him any questions to follow up those suspicions. Ask them please.
Tery, the poster of asianpeopledoingstuff gifs, was null to me. If anything, a scum lean on him would be most likely, as he has given the appearance of being here, but I remembered nothing of value from his slot as of yet, besides a vote on Red Ruy (without questions to accompany it) to "get him to talk."

I decided to ignore Seikend's last line, and hoped he would give the thread a thorough read soon. Indeed, I had almost forgotten he was in this game, and I looked forward to hopefully being town with him again, as in Bingo mafia. I pretended I had forgotten about Ducktales.
 
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