I didn't get to talk before Swords' lynch. Didn't expect his town flip but he was still a good lynch; he left a ton of information and the RR hammer sealed the deal on his scumminess and got him vigged/sk'ed.
@July: Who are you looking at toDay?
@Swiss: What is your read on John at this point? Is he the mafia we're looking for?
@MOD: You have Seikend rather than John2k4 on that vote count, and you have it listed as "9 playing" when there are only 8 players alive.
That is a damn good question.
1. John2k4- Scum. I've been weighing the dumb town v. scum debate in my head for the longest time because I know I'm not too strong in reading newbies, but his lack of presence, especially the lack of scumhunting and original input on scumpicks/lynches looks like coasting scum.
2. July- Town
3. adumbrodeus- Leaning town with the interactions with Swords early on and the reaction to Kantrip's gambit. Not as strong of a town read as Asdioh or Kantrip, but I still don't think he's scum.
4. Swiss- He's been super attentive and scumhunting, and I've had him leaning town because like adum I just don't see scum intent, but I think it's good to be cautious of Swiss. I don't know what to expect of scum Swiss and that is quite honestly terrifying because I don't think we would see scum intent from him anyways. I want to keep an eye on him...but in terms of vibes I have a town vibe on him so that's where I am now.
5. felipe- There's so little content from felipe, and so little scumhunting, but I also don't see scummy intent from him. I feel like his disinterest and lack of content is because he wants replaced, and doesn't reveal either scum or town intent. He could be scum, but I'm just not confident in it.
6. Asdioh- Town. If Asdioh isn't town after his interactions with RR and his genuine desire for a RR or John lynch over Swords yesterDay then I don't know what to believe anymore.
7. Sokr- I know that I had him as leaning town before, but I don't remember why :-/ Need to reread him, I do agree with what Swords said that he's been pretty open but I remember being weary of him early on. I also remember he thought Swords was indy, which I found unexpected as well.
8. Kantrip- Leaning strongly town. He's been super attentive, he definitely tried to act more rationally yesterDay than I was a tried to make sense of his role and the way he used it similarly to Asdioh, and I see genuine scumhunting in the way he's gone about it.
Sooo...right now I'm looking at John as my strongest scum pick, then Sokr/Felipe as people I need to look into. At most I could see one of Sokr/Felipe as scum, and I know I need to reread them. From there I want to keep an eye on Swiss, as it would be stupid to write him off as town right now.
I made a particularly vulgar post to Swords which didn't get posted in time yesterDay. Probably for the best!
The mafia?
I'm going to give this a re-read. I was wrong on Swords, though I feel he was more to blame for his lynch than us - terrible play which he only started to rectify when it was too late. If I was wrong on Swords, it is possible, (though improbable) that my scumpicks haven't been correct.
Adum, what do you think about Kantrip's mass claim order? Specifically, the fact that he didn't place you last.
Kant I'm OK with your order, but would swap yourself with Felipe. Sokr and Asdioh can claim last. I'd also like Adum to claim for me, so I can know for sure if he did what I think he did, or cottoned on very, very quickly. (I will, of course, actually claim after). Our claims are linked (I will not say in what way), I believe.
July, full thoughts on this post?
So basically your third scum is in
July/Soup/Felipe/Swiss
Lynch the ones based on my instructions in the posts above. If RR town then July's scum. If not then look for Swiss living too long. Soup/Felipe are less likely scum than July but need to be looked at again. One of Soup/July might be bussing.
I was discussing you with X1 yesterday at a smashfest, and he said you were actually very good as scum, and impressed him with your steadiness and reliability. Would you agree?
I think that the way he narrowed it down to four people who need to be reread and reconsidered makes sense, and I think that at this point anyone who had Swords as scum, myself included, needs to reconsider some of their town reads. I think that you are a natural choice to reread and reconsider, not because you've been scummy but because you are so good it would be hard to tell if you are manipulating us, which is a legitimate fear and something I've considered. I'm really, really flattered that X1 said I'm steady and reliable as scum, and not to be cocky but I agree with that and I hope I've gotten better since X1 took me under his wing in my newbie game. So I understand why Swords wants me looked into more and questions my towniness, but alas I'm town and rereading me will just support that. As for Soup or Felipe as scum, I never really thought to reconsider Soup, he was pretty solid town for me. Felipe I agree could be scum, but I also think that it's a bit of a shot in the dark with him because at this point he seems completely out of it.
Swiss, you seem to have Sokr as town read, correct? Can you remind me why, and did you find anything strange in his suspicion of Swords as indy?
