FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
did that dair spike?
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Brawl-: Released. See the new thread up top in the sticky section ^^^^
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Hella.
Yes... Yes it did.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
good god, what have we done....
i like (what i can only assume to be) the new counter. looks usable actually.
i like (what i can only assume to be) the new counter. looks usable actually.
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Hella.
counter wasn't used in the video at all...maybe you're looking at nair.
FrozenHobo
Smash Hero
looked at it again and, yeah, it was nair. it looks like it carries him up, but that could have just been momentum given to him from a jump/being sent into the air.
either way, he looks solid.
either way, he looks solid.
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Hella.
it enhances momentum, yes, but very slightly
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Hella.
LordshadowRagnarok
Smash Journeyman
Dear god, what has the brawl - team done?
Eldiran
Smash Lord
Wat.
Out of curiosity, did my Diddy dash-attack-off-the-edge thing make it into the Diddy .pac?
Also, Lucas looks pretty sweet.
Leo Kitsune
Smash Apprentice
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A couple things from messing around with the characters on the front page of this topic...
Link: His arrows have a tendency to pass through players, doing no damage at all. It happens rather often, mostly to his normal arrows but with the rest on occasion as well.
Also, just a suggestion, have his boomerang return a little bit slower. Easier to see coming, but more time to be shredded up if you happen to get caught in it. Either that or make it last longer.
Lucas: Seems pretty good, but PK Freeze needs a bit of an adjustment. Instead of one powerful coin-status hit, why not make it multiple, weaker coin-status hits, kind of like a PK Blizzard or something? It would do the same damage total (or maybe less), but hold the enemy in place should they get hit by it. Depending on how long the PK Freeze is charged would of course determine the duration of the attack. A fully-charged one would probably allow Lucas to run across 3/4 of Final Destination and hit with PK Fire before it breaks (1/2 of FD to get in close for melee attacks).
Plus each hit would give the coin effect, which would be funny.
Link: His arrows have a tendency to pass through players, doing no damage at all. It happens rather often, mostly to his normal arrows but with the rest on occasion as well.
Also, just a suggestion, have his boomerang return a little bit slower. Easier to see coming, but more time to be shredded up if you happen to get caught in it. Either that or make it last longer.
Lucas: Seems pretty good, but PK Freeze needs a bit of an adjustment. Instead of one powerful coin-status hit, why not make it multiple, weaker coin-status hits, kind of like a PK Blizzard or something? It would do the same damage total (or maybe less), but hold the enemy in place should they get hit by it. Depending on how long the PK Freeze is charged would of course determine the duration of the attack. A fully-charged one would probably allow Lucas to run across 3/4 of Final Destination and hit with PK Fire before it breaks (1/2 of FD to get in close for melee attacks).
Plus each hit would give the coin effect, which would be funny.
Veril
Frame Savant
Lucas is nuts. That dash-attack... does he have an absurd DACUS now. The change in DA momentum makes me think he might.
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Hella.
PK Freeze gimps unsuspecting recoveries, and breaks shields, and ***** FFAs due to its high damage and low endlag. It can't be buffed anymore, it just can't xD.
EDIT: The dash attack IASA makes it impossible to properly DACUS. But a DA US is definitely possible and does go relatively far (see the end of the video)
EDIT: The dash attack IASA makes it impossible to properly DACUS. But a DA US is definitely possible and does go relatively far (see the end of the video)
ZacTASTIC
Smash Apprentice
Balanced Brawl, Brawl+, now Brawl-.
I love the workshop. so much.
I love the workshop. so much.
Leo Kitsune
Smash Apprentice
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My suggestion isn't a buff, more of a different style of PK Freeze. I think it compliments the rest of the new Lucas better. It'll still gimp recoveries, still break shields, and still dominate in the FFA arena (haha, you're all trapped now, dash-attack into up-smash and you just died).
EDIT: Maybe it is a buff if the player uses it right. I dunno.
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Hella.
KingSlimeKnight
Smash Apprentice
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lol, flaming grenade eggs!
10eggs
10eggs
Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
Um... Duh?
Dear god. Diddy is so ****ing busted with that upB.
N.A.G.A.C.E
Smash Champion
so what are you guys planning to do with zelda, and ROB?
Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
I wish I knew. TSON apparently is working on both (or so I heard)... I'm kinda out of the loop. >.>
K.Mac
Smash Lord
Dude, I ****ing love you. I ****ING LOVE YOU.
Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
Yeah, that yoshi is epic. I keep trying to convince him to combine that with the change wingy added (throws 4 at once in scattershot), I hope someone just does it.
All right. Updated with 3 more beta characters. Depending on how things run, we may get a few more tonight or tomorrow (the way things look maybe yoshi included, lol).
Also, please update your Captain Falcon and Ganon.
CF got two moderate debuffs (downB isn't instantly a broken shield and does less than 40 damage, knee doesn't kill quite as early and does less damage) and a decent buff (endlag on aerial sideB on hit lowered so you can combo aerial sideB->something vs. a grounded opponent).
Ganon got three pretty big buffs for his approach game and his recovery. Grounded gerudo has heavy armor, aerial gerudo has the same momentum buffs as grounded gerudo, and upB has heavy armor.
For god's sake, someone make a **** install guide.
All right. Updated with 3 more beta characters. Depending on how things run, we may get a few more tonight or tomorrow (the way things look maybe yoshi included, lol).
Also, please update your Captain Falcon and Ganon.
CF got two moderate debuffs (downB isn't instantly a broken shield and does less than 40 damage, knee doesn't kill quite as early and does less damage) and a decent buff (endlag on aerial sideB on hit lowered so you can combo aerial sideB->something vs. a grounded opponent).
Ganon got three pretty big buffs for his approach game and his recovery. Grounded gerudo has heavy armor, aerial gerudo has the same momentum buffs as grounded gerudo, and upB has heavy armor.
For god's sake, someone make a **** install guide.
Epic Kovumon
Smash Journeyman
Can't download the G&W.
Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
Should be fixed now, try again. I got the wrong link.
highfive
Smash Lord
If it's possible to hack the title screen (sc_title.pac) I'll be glad to make a Brawl- screen.
ShermantheTank
Smash Journeyman
I'll work on making an install guide a little later tonight.
Edit: Asked two dumb questions and realized they were dumb
Edit: Asked two dumb questions and realized they were dumb
Or get me to make you an installer if you wantYeah, that yoshi is epic. I keep trying to convince him to combine that with the change wingy added (throws 4 at once in scattershot), I hope someone just does it.
All right. Updated with 3 more beta characters. Depending on how things run, we may get a few more tonight or tomorrow (the way things look maybe yoshi included, lol).
Also, please update your Captain Falcon and Ganon.
CF got two moderate debuffs (downB isn't instantly a broken shield and does less than 40 damage, knee doesn't kill quite as early and does less damage) and a decent buff (endlag on aerial sideB on hit lowered so you can combo aerial sideB->something vs. a grounded opponent).
Ganon got three pretty big buffs for his approach game and his recovery. Grounded gerudo has heavy armor, aerial gerudo has the same momentum buffs as grounded gerudo, and upB has heavy armor.
For god's sake, someone make a **** install guide.
ShermantheTank
Smash Journeyman
Nevermind what I said, do that ^
N.A.G.A.C.E
Smash Champion
ok its just that i have some ideas for zelda (use to be my main) but since all the characters I've seen look pretty cool i will just wait and see what he comes up with for her and my my ideas/opinions if i think she should be different.
ROB is my main right now so i was just wondering what was going on with him.
i also pay a little pit and it would be cool if his arrows spike.
Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
This would be excellent. Thanks dude. :DOr get me to make you an installer if you want
http://www.justin.tv/hawky111#r=XNNKaMg
Brawl- livestream with a bunch of stuff going on.
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Hella.
Bump for get in the livestream bro.
ChuteTheMessenger
Village's Strongest Hitman
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Ganon:
NSpecial - Does 666% damage.
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-*boom*
NSpecial - Does 666% damage.
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-*boom*
ShermantheTank
Smash Journeyman
It's not hard to not get hit
ZacTASTIC
Smash Apprentice
Quick question: How will I know if the snapshot loaded correctly? Will it be like the stage builder exploit? I looked at the snapshot and it didn't do anything... just showed me what it looked like. I don't know what the physics changes are and stuff like that, but I can tell that there isn't aerial momentum like in brawl+
Is it supposed to be like this?
Also, Bionic, can the updatifier (please make one!) be combined with the Brawl+ one, so we can choose official release, beta release, and minus?
Is it supposed to be like this?
Also, Bionic, can the updatifier (please make one!) be combined with the Brawl+ one, so we can choose official release, beta release, and minus?
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Hella.
The only significant change is the hitstun is huge and the hitlag is a bit bigger than vBrawl's.
ZacTASTIC
Smash Apprentice
So when I look at the snapshot, nothing actually happens, it just activates with no sign?
No, all of the codesets will remain separate, just live with a separate one for now
Wow luigi is awesome. He's tons of fun to play as and seems to be very good. The only thing that saddens me is that there is no longer a misfire, seeing as the norm is now basically a misfire. I think that a new, super fast explosive misfire should be made. And I think a very rare misfire for his neutral special would be very Luigi-like as well. I think the broken=balance aspect of Brawl- is awesome, but I think the crazy/flashy/explosive stuff that is being added is equally awesome. Its the second category that I'm mostly making this suggestion for.
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