Finman702
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What Roy model? Please show. =D
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Brawl model extractor
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Zephron
Smash Ace
Go to like the first few pages and you'll see it tons.
It's just the melee model. Nothing you haven't seen, but seeing it in brawl would of course be epic.
EDIT: I'm nice so I looked it up and it's on page 9.
It's just the melee model. Nothing you haven't seen, but seeing it in brawl would of course be epic.
EDIT: I'm nice so I looked it up and it's on page 9.
Finman702
Smash Journeyman
Oh, I gotcha. Yeah that could be cool with an updated texture.
closed beta just means that only a few people are selected to test it, unlike say, the halo 3 beta where anyone could play if they bought crackdown, I mainly just want the beta testers, who have not been selected and/or made known to post sumthin for the rest of us, whenever they get around testing,
Finman702
Smash Journeyman
I have been told Pharrox doesn't want anything released to the public, i.e. You and me.
DarkDragoon
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Finman702
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shukakusand
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Knightcrawler
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*Everything* with the beta test is supposed to remain closed until he gives the testers the say-so.
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That roy model wont look so epic ingame, he will be streched to marths proportions, thats why one should be made from scratch.
Also, someone posted a link to a mewtwo model... Not to crush dreams or anything, but the person making that will have a HORRIBLE time rigging and unwrapping that. It will stretch ALOT when its moving, also the legs dont seem like they will cooperate with the rigging. I made a mewtwo model a while back, but i moved the bones a bit when rigging (not too noticeable streching wise, except on the tail, i screwed it there). I was intending to remake it, its actually what got me on the StackSmash team
Chileno4Live
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Wow so this is going so far, interesting, i hope it'll work for PAL wii's aswell (probably not, no love for PAL)
DarkDragoon
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:3 Ah, well, like I said in the topic, if anyone has a good and properly rigged Mewtwo model they would like to share, then please do xD!That roy model wont look so epic ingame, he will be streched to marths proportions, thats why one should be made from scratch.
Also, someone posted a link to a mewtwo model... Not to crush dreams or anything, but the person making that will have a HORRIBLE time rigging and unwrapping that. It will stretch ALOT when its moving, also the legs dont seem like they will cooperate with the rigging. I made a mewtwo model a while back, but i moved the bones a bit when rigging (not too noticeable streching wise, except on the tail, i screwed it there). I was intending to remake it, its actually what got me on the StackSmash team
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Finman702
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I'm pretty sure that's the one DarkDragoon posted a page back.
mariokart64n
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mewtwo should be super easy to import to brawl, least I see no issues overlaying the model over the larcario skeleton.
issues do arrive when you try to say.. um use pichu's model on ganon O_o um yeah.. hell no.
but mewtwo > lacario = no problem
the skeletal differences are within reason of modifying the model for proper movement.
also i don't think people should be mentioning "you know what" program will be ready once it is complete.
>PS
I am a supporter of mewtwo and roy! I won't rest till they're both in brawl ^_^
issues do arrive when you try to say.. um use pichu's model on ganon O_o um yeah.. hell no.
but mewtwo > lacario = no problem
the skeletal differences are within reason of modifying the model for proper movement.
also i don't think people should be mentioning "you know what" program will be ready once it is complete.
>PS
I am a supporter of mewtwo and roy! I won't rest till they're both in brawl ^_^
Shadic
Alakadoof?
Is that the Melee Mewtwo model? Why can't we just use that one, anyways?
mariokart64n
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i'm going to use that for myself. 
but alot of people have petitioned against the usage of ripped models. so being said we as a community should uphold that rule and not share illegal material.
but alot of people have petitioned against the usage of ripped models. so being said we as a community should uphold that rule and not share illegal material.
Finman702
Smash Journeyman
But it looks so good D=.i'm going to use that for myself.
but alot of people have petitioned against the usage of ripped models. so being said we as a community should uphold that rule and not share illegal material.
Lol, makes sense though.
SymphonicSage12
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nearly everything we do at the smash workshop is technically illegal. >.>
And all they'd need to legally shut us down would be a confession *Ahem*
Finman702
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^^^^^^lol.
TheComrade
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Yeah, but really why would they want to shut it down? Sure there is some intellectual property infringement, but not in such a way that it would detract from the sales of any current or announced projects. If anything, the work being done here in the smash workshop only serves to grow the loyalty and enthusiasm of the fanbase (which is of course incredibly important considering how infrequently new installments are released).
Personally, I don't imagine Nintendo would be inclined to take action of any kind against this unless they had some sort of financial or legal incentive to do so. Now, if say people were ripping models from games made by non-Nintendo publishers, and said publishers took issue with such action, then perhaps Nintendo's hands would be tied.
Personally, I don't imagine Nintendo would be inclined to take action of any kind against this unless they had some sort of financial or legal incentive to do so. Now, if say people were ripping models from games made by non-Nintendo publishers, and said publishers took issue with such action, then perhaps Nintendo's hands would be tied.
Do you NOT remember what happened to ]EE[?
They did the exact thing we're doing and they got their ***** hauled to court. The same thing could happen to us because we are doing what they have done. But I do agree with the model issue, even if we make our own models, we could still be liable because we made one without asking them, even though we aren't gonna sell em or anything.....
They did the exact thing we're doing and they got their ***** hauled to court. The same thing could happen to us because we are doing what they have done. But I do agree with the model issue, even if we make our own models, we could still be liable because we made one without asking them, even though we aren't gonna sell em or anything.....
Knightcrawler
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We went through this a few months ago. Here's how it goes:
* ]EE[ didn't really get sued; some guy just reported that incorrectly.
* Hacking is not always illegal.
* Some tools used in hacking Brawl might have been obtained a little more shadily, but many of the finished products are perfectly legal.
* As long as copyrighted work is not directly stolen, a company holding intellectual property over a particular franchise/characters/etc. *MAY* attempt a lawsuit if they're so inclined claiming that the hack is a "derivative work." However, that can usually be defended quite well under fair use. As long as it's not a rip, that's as far as they can go.
* As long as we do our best to obey the law and wishes of the companies we are trying to honor, they most likely won't do anything at all. Some, like Capcom or Konami, might even support us knowing their history and market strategy.
That's it. There's not much to argue about, I'm just giving a reminder on the debate from earlier. Each side was wrong about some things, so I believe what is above is the truth. No matter who wishes to debate or even support me about this post, I won't respond to it so as not to flare up another argument. I'm glad mariokart64n will not be openly sharing his rip. This is to protect our community.
* ]EE[ didn't really get sued; some guy just reported that incorrectly.
* Hacking is not always illegal.
* Some tools used in hacking Brawl might have been obtained a little more shadily, but many of the finished products are perfectly legal.
* As long as copyrighted work is not directly stolen, a company holding intellectual property over a particular franchise/characters/etc. *MAY* attempt a lawsuit if they're so inclined claiming that the hack is a "derivative work." However, that can usually be defended quite well under fair use. As long as it's not a rip, that's as far as they can go.
* As long as we do our best to obey the law and wishes of the companies we are trying to honor, they most likely won't do anything at all. Some, like Capcom or Konami, might even support us knowing their history and market strategy.
That's it. There's not much to argue about, I'm just giving a reminder on the debate from earlier. Each side was wrong about some things, so I believe what is above is the truth. No matter who wishes to debate or even support me about this post, I won't respond to it so as not to flare up another argument. I'm glad mariokart64n will not be openly sharing his rip. This is to protect our community.
Ahh, thanks for clearing that up KnightCrawler
Except for:
"* As long as we do our best to obey the law and wishes of the companies we are trying to honor, they most likely won't do anything at all. Some, like Capcom or Konami, might even support us knowing their history and market strategy."
What do you mean by market strategy?
Except for:
"* As long as we do our best to obey the law and wishes of the companies we are trying to honor, they most likely won't do anything at all. Some, like Capcom or Konami, might even support us knowing their history and market strategy."
What do you mean by market strategy?
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OK GUYS YOU ALL SUCK, YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT HAPPEND TO EE BLARGH!
Sorry, but thats not what happend to EE, there host shut them down, they where the ones in fear of being sued. Nothing actually happend.
Nintendo doesnt even care, this is good for them, we are attracting more SSB fans/making them more loyal to the series. For them this is good.
Sorry, but thats not what happend to EE, there host shut them down, they where the ones in fear of being sued. Nothing actually happend.
Nintendo doesnt even care, this is good for them, we are attracting more SSB fans/making them more loyal to the series. For them this is good.
Knightcrawler
Smash Journeyman
Some guys remade the first level of Contra in Little Big Planet and were thinking of doing the whole game. Konami heard about it and instead of asking the levels to be taken down, they encouraged them to finish the project. This despite the fact that they had a Wii version of Contra coming out in a few months and a year and a half before made Contra 4 (which is awesome). Capcom's even more interactive with their community. I've seen moderators/administrators on their forums *start* topics on MegaMan fan games and talk about how cool they are, even ones with some ripped sprites and tiles. They weren't gonna translate/port Tatsunoku vs. Capcom, but now it's coming over here with balance changes, extra characters, and online play (Japan is getting an updated version based on the international version)... because the fans were begging for it. These two companies are relying on their hardest of hardcore fans and making it very welcoming and inviting to become bigger fans, which is part of the reason why Capcom was successfully able to start a Street Fighter resurgence and even somewhat of a retro game resurgence in general. Capcom has been a big supporter of EVO, Shoryuken.com, and other fansites/communities/blogs/etc.. For instance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=019O_H0ozOo (BTW Everyone should watch this video because it's amazingly awesome)
Capcom's marketing strategy is essentially the inverse of Nintendo's. Konami's similar to Capcom's, but to a lesser extent.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=019O_H0ozOo (BTW Everyone should watch this video because it's amazingly awesome)
Capcom's marketing strategy is essentially the inverse of Nintendo's. Konami's similar to Capcom's, but to a lesser extent.
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Yeh i saw the little big planet thing. I started a contra 3 thing (i didnt know about that regular contra thing at the time) as soon as the release of the paintinator. I havent 100% finished the first level yet (i stopped a LONG time ago).
HSX
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WHy is an awesome topic about soon-to-happen awesomeness being flooded about complaints about the first texture hacking team? D:
I has a question: Will it be possible to add bone joints, once animation editing is available? I want to add in Iron Man and put him on Samus. :3 (And obviously take out the transformation to ZSS. :U)
I has a question: Will it be possible to add bone joints, once animation editing is available? I want to add in Iron Man and put him on Samus. :3 (And obviously take out the transformation to ZSS. :U)
Shadic
Alakadoof?
He jumps as high as Peach's second jump, but without a float. He has no middle or third jump. He can only punch for 1%, kick for 2%. They're slow attacks.
AWESOME CHARACTER.
AWESOME CHARACTER.
GadgetTR
Smash Apprentice
Ripping and distributing models shouldn't be much legally different from ripping and distributing sprites and textures.
That said, I'm all for Melee-Mewtwo/Roy.
That said, I'm all for Melee-Mewtwo/Roy.
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No it isnt, are you crazy, no one had anythign to say, it wasnt dieing. Model hacks are soon to come, so it obviously wouldnt die now.
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