Brawl model extractor

[DarkDragoon]

Now, as we are heading to page 100, is there any new news?

lrn240postsperpage.
-DD

 

[HSX]

Brawl formats have been converted. Debugging MDL0/PLT0/TEX0 output now.

Do you think you can test outputting the .MDL0 into another file format other than Collada, like, say, .3DS?

Really, it's extreamly annoying to have to deal with only using Autodesk Max/Maya. Collada is barely supported on any software I encountered. X_X

Anything other than that dang Collada format would be WAY MORE THAN HIGHLY APPRECIATED. X_X

 

[shadowtroop]

Say, if you need help, do you think chadderz could? He's a MKWii hacker who made MKWii model/texture hacking possible. He might know a thing or two...

I can't wait to have custom stages like the custom SNES rainbow road course for MKWii

 

[stickman]

Do you think you can test outputting the .MDL0 into another file format other than Collada, like, say, .3DS?

Really, it's extreamly annoying to have to deal with only using Autodesk Max/Maya. Collada is barely supported on any software I encountered. X_X

Anything other than that dang Collada format would be WAY MORE THAN HIGHLY APPRECIATED. X_X

Blender works with it. Not with models from Pharrox's converter (sorry) but with trophy file models used with an MDL0 converter

 

[GadgetTR]

Autodesk's (Free!) FBX converter will aslo convert non-Pharrox-made DAEs into FBX, 3DS, etc.

Why are the DAE files that Pharrox's converter produces different from normal DAE files, anyway? O_o

 

[stickman]

I can't get them to work in Blender, but in Meshlab, they only have a few triangles, but all the vertices


EDIT:

Spoiler

so HSX doesn't kill me... First post on 100th page!

 

[HSX]

DANGIT STICKMAN YOU MADE THE 100TH PAGE

AND YOU DID NOT EVEN ACKNOWLADGE IT

U R NOT WORTHY >:UUUUU

*shot*

Uhh.... hmmm.... yeah....

Blender works with it. Not with models from Pharrox's converter (sorry) but with trophy file models used with an MDL0 converter

Yeah... I'd rather have the editable T-Posed models instead of the hell-of-a-time-to-rig Trophies. :/

 

[stickman]

DANGIT STICKMAN YOU MADE THE 100TH PAGE

AND YOU DID NOT EVEN ACKNOWLADGE IT

U R NOT WORTHY >:UUUUU

*shot*

Uhh.... hmmm.... yeah....



Yeah... I'd rather have the editable T-Posed models instead of the hell-of-a-time-to-rig Trophies. :/

I'll change that right away...

and me too, but it's the only thing I have to work with at the moment

 

[thanyou]

Take a look at what I found: http://www.spinquad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7246

LAHARL *Joygasm*

Pretty amazing model, looks cartoony, but all the proportions are correct (For the most part)

Maybe someone from the forum could convince him to join the community so we could have a character already completed when Pharrox's tool is released

 

[...:::VILE:::...]

Thats ZBrushed.

 

[thanyou]

What does that mean

 

[Viquey]

Zbrush is a fancy 3d modeling program. IDK what that Laharl model being made with that has to do with anything but yeah.

Also, @Vile on the prev. page--er, why? I'm making my own animations and everything, and by the time I'm done with all that pharrox will probably have long successfully hacked not only models but animations and everything else as well. O.o

Speaking of which, I have 2 2/3 wait/idle animations done. :DD sooo 1 1/3 left 'til i can move on to the other thousands of anis. ;/

 

[Sora Master2.0]

Not much.

Brawl formats have been converted. Debugging MDL0/PLT0/TEX0 output now.

Um...very good news...I think....right?

 

[...:::VILE:::...]

ZBrush isn't a fancy modeling program at all, its just a modeling program to model the high poly things (millions upon millions of polygons, even billions if you can run it). It works kinda like sculpting. We probably wouldn't be able to run that model alone on the strongest computer made yet.

 

[HSX]

K, I got myself a copy of Maya (trial lolz), and whenever I try to load the .dae models Pharrox's extractor gives out, maya dies. D:

Anyone know a solution for this?

 

[...:::VILE:::...]

You need a **** collada importer plugin for maya HSX.

 

[...:::VILE:::...]

i said dam'n and it censored?

 

[_Vuze_]

LOL, very sensitive board :D

 

[HSX]

i said dam'n and it censored?

LOL, very sensitive board :D

Actually, in some countries, d*** is considered a swear.

 

[rPSIvysaur]

**** is to curse to hell... it's definition is that of a swear

 

[GadgetTR]

Take a look at what I found: http://www.spinquad.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7246

LAHARL *Joygasm*

Pretty amazing model, looks cartoony, but all the proportions are correct (For the most part)

Maybe someone from the forum could convince him to join the community so we could have a character already completed when Pharrox's tool is released

Same goes for this:
http://fluxmage.deviantart.com/art/Geno-for-Brawl-101115129

 

[E-Jolteon]

**** is to curse to hell... it's definition is that of a swear

 

[Sora Master2.0]

Same goes for this:
http://fluxmage.deviantart.com/art/Geno-for-Brawl-101115129

Maybe inform this person of the current hacking situation, and see what he says?

 

[GadgetTR]

Thought about doing it, but I thought it best to just wait until the converter was actually released.

But then I guess that would defeat the point? w/e

 

[...:::VILE:::...]

Ugh you all realize these are EXTREMELY high quality models and yes they might be able to model low poly, but most people who model in high poly don't know how to model low poly.

 

[thanyou]

Doesn't low poly just mean less detail? Wouldn't that just make it ever so easier to make the models?

 

[...:::VILE:::...]

Well most people find sculpting in higher poly is easier, but personally i find lower poly work easier. Then again, i dont work with high poly as much as i do with low, it really depends on how much experience and which you prefer.

 

[Knightcrawler]

That Disgaea model was made four years ago and Geno more than a year ago. I think it's reasonable to assume they might have learned how to model low-poly since them. Maybe, maybe not. But it's possible.

 

[Shadic]

Doesn't low poly just mean less detail? Wouldn't that just make it ever so easier to make the models?

Not always. You can run some simple smoothers and stuff on a model to make it look better, and it's suddenly 20 times the polygons it used to be. It both limits your tools, and expectations hand in hand, so it's not necessarily simpler.

 

[mariokart64n]

lowpoly takes alot more knowledge about proper edge flow and architecture. because it's all about where and how you use and conserve your polygons. if your edge flow is crap, your model won't bend properly.

 

[pokelover980]

lowpoly takes alot more knowledge about proper edge flow and architecture. because it's all about where and how you use and conserve your polygons. if your edge flow is crap, your model won't bend properly.

The part about edge flow can also apply to high polygon characters, as I've done that before.

 

[mariokart64n]

not really, gets to a point where there are so many edges.. bad edge don't matter anymore. even if you get a poll or a pinch it'll be so subdivided and small, you won't see it.

and you can't use hipoly models in games, so edge flow isn't as critical

 

[Red-Blue]

not really, gets to a point where there are so many edges.. bad edge don't matter anymore. even if you get a poll or a pinch it'll be so subdivided and small, you won't see it.

and you can't use hipoly models in games, so edge flow isn't as critical

Off-topic, but I remember you from FacePunchStudios years ago. Small world, indeed.

 

[...:::VILE:::...]

The part about edge flow can also apply to high polygon characters, as I've done that before.

Well you either are A: Lieing that have done this before, or B: Failed so hard at it.

You do realize edge flow almost doesn't even matter with high poly models, the most trouble it will give you is a little bit of a weird sub division in a spot and even then it barely ever happens.

 

[pokelover980]

Well you either are A: Lieing that have done this before, or B: Failed so hard at it.

You do realize edge flow almost doesn't even matter with high poly models, the most trouble it will give you is a little bit of a weird sub division in a spot and even then it barely ever happens.

The B part is true, it was when I first learned to hi-poly model, and I sucked at it. I had a lot in one spot, but I didn't know what some of the tools were and I accidentally combined the polys, so when I broke them apart they were kinda funny, but still somewhat high poly, so I tried to animate it, but the polys weren't where I wanted them, so it kinda got screwed up. Basically what I was trying to say is don't suck at modeling or the same can happen.

 

[mariokart64n]

Making hipoly is essential to help lowpoly model makers understand how to distribute polygons if ever subdivided

But whatever the case, if you don't know proper edge flow your going to have animation problems.. [period!]

Also when making highpoly models you always always start from lowpoly, and subdivide up..
so there should be no such thing as bad edge flow with hipoly models.. since if the highpoly model had problems, its directly because the lowpoly that you began with was no good. so lowpoly takes more experience then highpoly since you need lowpoly to make high poly O_o unless you plan to not subdivide and place the position of a million polygons one by one

 

[SymphonicSage12]

This is definitely one of the awesomest topics I have ever seen. Just imagine where Brawl could go with this, and PSA, and stuff like that. TL; DR: Nintendo has just had their *** kicked.

 

[pokelover980]

Making hipoly is essential to help lowpoly model makers understand how to distribute polygons if ever subdivided

But whatever the case, if you don't know proper edge flow your going to have animation problems.. [period!]

Also when making highpoly models you always always start from lowpoly, and subdivide up..
so there should be no such thing as bad edge flow with hipoly models.. since if the highpoly model had problems, its directly because the lowpoly that you began with was no good. so lowpoly takes more experience then highpoly since you need lowpoly to make high poly O_o unless you plan to not subdivide and place the position of a million polygons one by one

Remember, I said it was when I first learned to high poly. Like you said, I started with a bad lowpoly, subdivided, smoothed, hit a button I didn't know what did which made the selected polys combine to be low poly, I subdivided, but not enough, and basically ****ed the whole thing up. I still hate modeling >.>

 

[Rkey]

Does anyone know how that clone engine is coming along? And are updates on this program, which indeed seems awesome, coming from somewhere?

 

[cuckoos]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB_PoA-NLlY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYVDQA49hzc#movie_player 1:19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQBax7nSoy0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVKvrDhxR_s

Some videos you guys should see. The second video apparently has marth, link, nd ike doing other people's taunts. This is obviously some kind of bone hack. Is this old news?