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Brawl Back Room Updates
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Cassio
Smash Master
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Delux Im pretty sure youre interpreting the standards to fit your argument, the only interpretation that matters are the reviewers. A more likely explanation, and from what I can see, is that the standards either a) arent clear enough or b)were misinterpreted by the applicants.
Its very common for anyone that's felt theyve been wronged to automatically assume the person or thing they were wronged by is being illogical, especially when their reaction comes soon after theyve been wronged. But everyone involved in the decision has given a rational explanation. Honestly it probably wouldve been best had everyone that was denied and had an issue to either privately appeal or waited a few days before pointing fingers at the reviewers, the process, or the BBR itself. Coming to the conclusion that the opposite party(ies) is being illogical should always be the last judgement, not the first.
Chair quite honestly there was no need to grandstand and criticize others if you were confident in what you said.
MRM wtf are you doing. Your pointless criticisims/attacks dont deserve to be here and deserve the world's biggest facepalm.
Its very common for anyone that's felt theyve been wronged to automatically assume the person or thing they were wronged by is being illogical, especially when their reaction comes soon after theyve been wronged. But everyone involved in the decision has given a rational explanation. Honestly it probably wouldve been best had everyone that was denied and had an issue to either privately appeal or waited a few days before pointing fingers at the reviewers, the process, or the BBR itself. Coming to the conclusion that the opposite party(ies) is being illogical should always be the last judgement, not the first.
Chair quite honestly there was no need to grandstand and criticize others if you were confident in what you said.
MRM wtf are you doing. Your pointless criticisims/attacks dont deserve to be here and deserve the world's biggest facepalm.
MegaRobMan
Smash Hero
not sure if trolling or lack of reading comprehension.
Kuro~
Nitoryu Kuro
I don't get why illmatic and p1 don't understand that all they have to do is not get infractions till the next app period to help them get in...
Player-1
Smash Legend
10 points to kuro for missing the point of the last 10 pages
z00ted
The Assault of Laughter ﷼
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You really should learn to read before you post.
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Marc, why didn't I get in? 
Kuro~
Nitoryu Kuro
I've read everything. And it's mostly unnecessary at this point...
Kuro~
Nitoryu Kuro
It seems like beating a dead horse at this point...you've given your criticisms and your worries they've been recognized and acknowledged and you've even been told how to correct your personal situation.
To be more on topic...If you're going to use the job application analogy then you could very well relate that to the infraction problem...all jobs ask on resumes if you have been indited, been to jail, or done any illegal substances in the last x amount of time. So shouldn't that be a pre-app notification in the OP? Or a question?
Then again it could simply be common knowledge...just like how people who have been to jail know that is on their record and they will now have a much harder time getting accepted simply due to mistakes of the past.
To be more on topic...If you're going to use the job application analogy then you could very well relate that to the infraction problem...all jobs ask on resumes if you have been indited, been to jail, or done any illegal substances in the last x amount of time. So shouldn't that be a pre-app notification in the OP? Or a question?
Then again it could simply be common knowledge...just like how people who have been to jail know that is on their record and they will now have a much harder time getting accepted simply due to mistakes of the past.
DeLux
Player that used to be Lux
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Fair enough, I'll withhold any more logic based judgments on my part until more time passes. Although I would reiterate, I would make the argument that my dissent is more so based off of the applications of others. I've already said that based on objective standards, my post has been mentioned as to why I was not admitted. I've sent in a private appeal as an explanation as to why it wasn't meant as a sign of disrespect, although I acknowledge how it can be seen as such.
It's hard for me to sit idle while candidates more qualified than myself (Player-1, Illmatic, MegaRobMan, Lord Chair, Etc.) are marginalized just for the sake of advancing my own appeal especially when most of them have already spoken favorably on my behalf.
Illi,
if from today onwards you did not receive an infraction, in 6 months time I would go
'wow, he has strived to become a lot more mature, he does have a huge infraction history, but it's no longer a consistent pattern of behaviour'.
Brolaf, in a nutshell, you weren't accepted primarily because we worry about how you can often go out of your way to be antagonistic. You were on the cusp of acceptance.
P1, in a nutshell, beyond your infraction history, which is ultimately not too problematic, you're personified as immature in your day to day interactions on smashboards. I've had similar opinions of multiple people who have eventually gotten into the BBR because I can contrast their improvement (hell, 3 years ago people were kids, some of those kids are now adults, the differences are often quite vast). You have a strong resume and you were on the cusp of acceptance.
People have a tendency to want game the infraction system in place on smashboards. I would consider that, in of itself, an extremely immature state of mind. And it's very easy to spot said people, usually within their last 5-10 posts. "Oh, I'm only 3 points today, I can flame this guy and then not be an idiot for 2 weeks and I'll be fine". We don't want people like that in the BBR. Ideally, someone in the brawl back room would be close to a respectable candidate for moderation.
if from today onwards you did not receive an infraction, in 6 months time I would go
'wow, he has strived to become a lot more mature, he does have a huge infraction history, but it's no longer a consistent pattern of behaviour'.
Brolaf, in a nutshell, you weren't accepted primarily because we worry about how you can often go out of your way to be antagonistic. You were on the cusp of acceptance.
P1, in a nutshell, beyond your infraction history, which is ultimately not too problematic, you're personified as immature in your day to day interactions on smashboards. I've had similar opinions of multiple people who have eventually gotten into the BBR because I can contrast their improvement (hell, 3 years ago people were kids, some of those kids are now adults, the differences are often quite vast). You have a strong resume and you were on the cusp of acceptance.
People have a tendency to want game the infraction system in place on smashboards. I would consider that, in of itself, an extremely immature state of mind. And it's very easy to spot said people, usually within their last 5-10 posts. "Oh, I'm only 3 points today, I can flame this guy and then not be an idiot for 2 weeks and I'll be fine". We don't want people like that in the BBR. Ideally, someone in the brawl back room would be close to a respectable candidate for moderation.
z00ted
The Assault of Laughter ﷼
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I stopped talking about it a few pages ago.
We've already covered this.... you sure you read those pages?
I wasn't hurting anyone when trying to figure out how BBR handles admissions.
I don't even see how any of this concerns you.... at all.
Ok.
Player-1
Smash Legend
Actually, my state of mind isn't "Hey I have 5 infractions, can't troll anymore for 2 weeks oh well". It's more like "Hey, I have 5 infractions, damn I can't troll or I'll be hanned, better stop."
Not that it matters anymore, but just wanted to clear that misconception up.
z00ted
The Assault of Laughter ﷼
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That's exactly what they DON'T want, because they are practically the same thing.
Player-1
Smash Legend
One is "Man, I better cheat the system, can't wait to get back to trolling"
the other is "Hey, I better watch myself here and be more careful about getting them"
the other is "Hey, I better watch myself here and be more careful about getting them"
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He does. It's ********
The root of the two is 'I don't consider whether or not my behaviour on smashboards is inappropriate or not and if it isn't, I still post it'. What I 'quoted' was an example and I consider the two you listed as the same.
Don't worry delux, just time perfectly synchronised ff + rising bairs and sonic won't know what's happening to him.
infiniteV115
Smash Hero
I don't know if this was meant to be funny or not
But god
Oh my god
I ****ing died
Ripple
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I said "I'm not going to be around much longer/forever so I would suggest getting another dk main back here"
is that any reason to kick me out?
my GF broke up with me which blew up my world. there is a reason I've been overly negative recently.
is that any reason to kick me out?
my GF broke up with me which blew up my world. there is a reason I've been overly negative recently.
But really, it isn't a social. I don't mod this place (thank god lol), but really, can we try to keep the posts on-topic? The discussion was going pretty well imo, a lot more civil overall than things tend to be around these parts.
@ Ripple: Your situation explains your behavior, but doesn't justify it, if that makes sense. Like, even if you feel negative because life's been a douche, you shouldn't be having random outbursts on SWF outside of social-type threads, no matter how small they are. Idk, projecting negativity is never a good thing.
MegaRobMan
Smash Hero
Go team Ishley!
MRM, posting random one-liners in a BBR-monitored thread may not be the best way to go about increasing your chances of getting in next round, just sayin'.
Also, Team Ishley~!~