Bowser

[Tarzan le Gitan]

I already like Brawl Bowser as he is really fun to play, but I would love him to be buffed, especially THROWS. Bowser needs overpowered throws. Like a 5% Pummel and a 20% downthrow. This + Super Armor on a legitimate number of moves = perfect mid tier Bowser, slow but scary as hell.

 

[_R@bid_]

I agree. However, I do think we need melee side b back, as that was way more useful a move than his brawl one, as Bowser needs to have his throws be useful, not just... flashy looking.
As for super armor, two spots he should definitely have it is on shell-based moves and throws.

 

[Ultinarok]

I already like Brawl Bowser as he is really fun to play, but I would love him to be buffed, especially THROWS. Bowser needs overpowered throws. Like a 5% Pummel and a 20% downthrow. This + Super Armor on a legitimate number of moves = perfect mid tier Bowser, slow but scary as hell.

Oh, this sounds really cool actually. Maybe some more range on his grab too, although that'd be pretty extreme because then he'd be a chain throwing machine.

 

[Neanderthal]

Was always my secondary character in Brawl. I do hope he gets buffed big time.
Needs more knock-back invincibility frames.

 

[himemiya]

They should revive the koopa klaw and make that seismic toss one of the alt throws. Make him as strong as 2.1 pm bowser (super-armor). And down b should be jump cancelable.

 

[Admiral Pit]

I already like Brawl Bowser as he is really fun to play, but I would love him to be buffed, especially THROWS. Bowser needs overpowered throws. Like a 5% Pummel and a 20% downthrow. This + Super Armor on a legitimate number of moves = perfect mid tier Bowser, slow but scary as hell.

That's something that's always been bothering me lately as well. Bowser is the heaviest character in the game, but he doesn't feel that heavy. He often dies faster than some characters, mainly Snake and D3, sometimes Ganon too (even MK sometimes) because of Bowser's poor recovery and DI. Then he doesn't have any super armor unless it involves the Side-B grab or well, regular grab. He does have invincibility frames from the famous Boozer Up-B, but no Super Armor by any non-grabbing means.
What I want to see from Bowser is some Super Armor and a bit more power, as well as living a bit longer in a sense, and maybe slightly faster falling speed (optional). Like I said, Bowser is the heaviest character in the game, and he should feel like the heaviest.

 

[_R@bid_]

Super Armor: FSmash, Up B startup
Heavy KB Armor: Rest of Up B, Down B, DSmash,USmash, UThrow, DThrow, Nair, Dair, Shell end of Bair
Light Damage Armor: Crouch, Crawl, Dash Attack
Does that sound good for armor, or is it too much?

 

[Ultinarok]

Super Armor: FSmash, Up B startup
Heavy KB Armor: Rest of Up B, Down B, DSmash,USmash, UThrow, DThrow, Nair, Dair, Shell end of Bair
Light Damage Armor: Crouch, Crawl, Dash Attack
Does that sound good for armor, or is it too much?

What with hitboxes and whatnot, it sounds perfect.

 

[himemiya]

Super Armor: FSmash, Up B startup
Heavy KB Armor: Rest of Up B, Down B, DSmash,USmash, UThrow, DThrow, Nair, Dair, Shell end of Bair
Light Damage Armor: Crouch, Crawl, Dash Attack
Does that sound good for armor, or is it too much?

So pretty much make it pm bowser?

 

[_R@bid_]

So pretty much make it pm bowser?

Plus throws, dair, bair, and super armor on FSmash and Up B rather than kb armor.

 

[Admiral Pit]

http://www.smashbros.com/us/characters/bowser.html

Bowser doing dropkicks, anyone? (first picture)

 

[bobadz]

He seems to be faster too.

 

[MrEh]

Bowser doesn't need armor. He just needs to do more damage. lol

 

[FalKoopa]

Bowser definite has a new attack where he hits with both his legs sticking out. A new dash attack perhaps?

 

[MrEh]

The dropkick?

That seems to have either replaced his Fsmash or Dsmash. Hopefully his Dsmash.

 

[IAm2Sarcastic4U]

http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/koopa/main.png >>> http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/bowser/bowser.jpg

 

[SirPainsalot]

He seems to be faster too.

Not only that, his running animation has changed. (when Mario and Bowser run at each other in the arena)

He's not grinding on the floor anymore.
It looks a little goofy, but hey at least he's actually moving with animations.

 

[KayB]

Pretty sure the drop kick is an f-smash.

 

[bobadz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ#aid=P-_6kKFPkbY

100% confirmed buff.

 

[LaniusShrike]

I'm not 100% on the changes. Better is good, but I did actually like the feel of Bowser all hunched over and feral... This more acrobatic Bowser doesn't instinctively look right, but I guess time will tell.

 

[FalKoopa]

I'm getting a feeling that I've seen Bowser's idle pose somewhere else. I just can's remember.

 

[Metalbro]

No more weird grinding dash anymore. He's soo upright too..

 

[lordvaati]

I'm getting a feeling that I've seen Bowser's idle pose somewhere else. I just can's remember.

He stands up like that after doing a Super in BiS,I believe.

 

[Shorts]

I hope they just make same old Bowser for Smash 4.
Humungous, powerful, but slow. Low tier, but still really fun.
That's what I like about him.

Why would you WANT a low tier? Come on.

 

[Yonder]

Bowser looks a lot more fluent and deadly in this game, I think. I approve of him so far.

 

[Iron Jawbone]

Late to the party on this one.
-Talk about buffs, check
-Talk about bringing in old moves (hammer was what I had in mind), check
-Bowser needs a stage, check
-People mentioning Sakurai mentioning buffs, check

Well crud, I'm not sure what to talk about except that I look very forward to maining Bowser for a third generation.

 

[SirPainsalot]

I'm not 100% on the changes. Better is good, but I did actually like the feel of Bowser all hunched over and feral... This more acrobatic Bowser doesn't instinctively look right, but I guess time will tell.

I think the change was to represent Bowser in the Galaxy games. He's more acrobatic, constantly jumping and running around.

The emphasize on yellow as it's a primary color also helps to make him look more similar to the cartoony Mario version of him.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

I think Bowser is still in development. Note how in the 3DS footage his fingers don't move while they do in the WiiU version.

 

[Diddy Kong]

I wish they made him bigger and heavier instead of more atletic and faster. But can't complain, at least he's been worked on.

 

[NukeA6]

Bowser is getting buffed!!! BOO-YAH!!! And I'm glad he's losing those shell spins. Not only does it not fit a King of Koopas, they were always slow and made him awkward to use. Nice to see he will be at DK status.

 

[Get Low]

Why would you WANT a low tier? Come on.

Fun low tiers have a certain appeal, because a majority of other people won't use them.

 

[Hypercat-Z]

http://www.smashbros.com/images/character/koopa/main.png >>> http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/bowser/bowser.jpg

His main color is no more dominant green. It's red and and green now. I guess he will use a more greenish alt for the team matches. It might be pretty fun if his green color will be like...

 

[I_hate_usernames]

Freaking pumped for the buff!

Always wanted to main the ******* but he just couldn't cut the cheese in Brawl

 

[Terrazi Terrajin]

I'm getting a feeling that I've seen Bowser's idle pose somewhere else. I just can's remember.

The hand grasping sorta reminds me of Venom.

 

[choknater]

so excited! so far i want to main bowser

WE'LL SEE

subbing to this thread

 

[Kamiko]

I think that drop kick might actually be his running attack.

 

[Evil E.]

I think that drop kick might actually be his running attack.

I'm positive the dropkick is his forward smash

 

[Kamiko]

I'm positive the dropkick is his forward smash

Is there evidence of that? Because I don't think that really feels right for a smash attack.

 

[Evil E.]

Is there evidence of that? Because I don't think that really feels right for a smash attack.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQD1yJinzeQ
1:02 he does his dash attack, and then his smash attack.

 

[Luigi player]

I'm kinda sad about his fsmash and dash attack. Those were some of his more awesome looking moves imo. Oh well, at least he might be better overall.
He looks even more badass in this game.