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Boss presents: The cape ****
- Thread starter boss8
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slikvik
Smash Master
boss, when are we teaming again?
ThatGuy
Smash Master
I found a great use. If a Snake gets blown up with a grenade or C4, the cape will kill him relatively early. Fun stuff.
EDIT: Watch out though, if you cape as the explosion hits, he will actually stay in place! Wtf!?
EDIT: Watch out though, if you cape as the explosion hits, he will actually stay in place! Wtf!?
Kenrawr
Smash Master
Me and Boss were teaming in friendlies (a first?) and I was running around with kirby and uthrowing people and he would just wait for the right moment to cape. I don't think team chemistry is too big of a factor.
Ussi
Smash Legend
That's a Dash attack.... Holy O_O.... Bowser and Mario make great partners.
At this rate teams might have to be required to be able to counter Mario.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
Meaning... abuse it while people don't know?
KirinBlaze
Smash Lord
I can really only see it being used in situations like Boss showed us, those 2v1's toward the end of a match.
fromundaman
Henshin a go-go Baby!
I would disagree especially if you team with Kirby/MK. It wouldn't be that hard to get over there before the Uthrow ends, and in general, this seems like it wouldn't require too complex of teamwork to accomplish.
boss8
Smash Hero
it doesnt just stay near by....
Kenrawr
Smash Master
You guys really think you can keep a mario from getting near a uthrowing...anyone (almost) 100% of the match?
2v1s and if you manage to knock the other opponent very far away and/or they die off the top.
Also, just like he has plenty of time to get there before the animation ends, your opponent has the same amount of time to get there and interrupt in some way.
Even then, the Kirby has to go get that grab, and if people know something dangerous is coming that relies on a grab, they will turn the world upside down to avoid it. Believe me, now that people have experienced infinite bites, first thing they do as soon as they're alone is hop on that ledge and ***** it.
EDIT: Don't get me wrong, I alt Mario and would love more fun things to do with him in teams, but I'm just being a realist.
Punishment Divine
Smash Champion
vato_break
Smash Master
i bet this would work really good with someone who has a good throw. i wonder how good this would be with ness's fthrow ...
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
oshi. boss i was about to drop mario in doubles for gaw's bucket but now you just reached a sexy new level. You think mario and gaw = sexy team???? cape **** / bucket kills = ftw???? woohooo boss u mah hero....
shizzlee
Smash Apprentice
O.O That's nice. Great find.
Monk/Honkey/Banana
Smash Champion
This is similar to the MK+G&W trampoline throw...cool find bro
roman5hero
Smash Apprentice
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could it work for the catapult on tl's stage if so that could be a new counterpick for you guys. well maby not because it is hard to guess when it launches someone.
KirinBlaze
Smash Lord
That and Pirate Ship banned where I am. ;_;
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
I always thought Pirate ship was always banned. Lol. You know what was weird?
I was fighting a mario user with my luigi, i did a misfire, he was in the cape animation, somewhat it connected and i was in the opposite direction while he got stage spiked 0.0. I was like wtf 0.0. Does anyone know if cape has inv frames or something?
I was fighting a mario user with my luigi, i did a misfire, he was in the cape animation, somewhat it connected and i was in the opposite direction while he got stage spiked 0.0. I was like wtf 0.0. Does anyone know if cape has inv frames or something?
SkylerOcon
Tiny Dancer
Hasn't this been known about for a while...?
Anyway, this is also possible to pull off in singles, but a lot harder. Managed to kill my fiends Lucas yesterday at 60% by caping his PK fire back into him and hitting him with the cape at the same time the PK fire hit him. Insane knockback.
Yeah, we need to do this more.
Anyway, this is also possible to pull off in singles, but a lot harder. Managed to kill my fiends Lucas yesterday at 60% by caping his PK fire back into him and hitting him with the cape at the same time the PK fire hit him. Insane knockback.
Yeah, we need to do this more.
Aura_Fear
Smash Cadet
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KirinBlaze
Smash Lord
I did it to my friends R.O.B in singles today, glide tossed right into my cape and got his with the top and cape, he was sent ridiculously far and died around 80%.
I'm guessing we're still in the testing phase. We need to find out how much cape amplifies knockback and specifically which attacks work with this well enough to KO and decent percentages.
Judge? Wanna help me make a list?
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
Oh gawd!!! mario's just got a upgrade to his meta-game. The testing better have some appealing results....
KirinBlaze
Smash Lord
All day. We should try it with Marth's Usmash like you said. That seems like it would work.
vato_break
Smash Master
also when you cape peaches toad she recives cape damage+spor damage+plus it "increases" her knockback....talk about ****..
Atash
Smash Apprentice
*first post I've made in the Mario forums... and everything looks so... red... and... not manly...* :-P
I realize that I'm a Luigi main and don't have much to contribute - but a question regarding the cape being used alongside Luigi's missile... It results in the person dying off the top of the stage (not the side), yes? (( EDIT: uhm... wait... Matador said... any direction?? ))
So, along with the bowser vid in tandem with what everyone seems to be saying about the cape (and this appears to have not been said in the thread yet), it could generally be said that the cape will work its magic for any decently strong upward-knockback attack, yes (I am a Mario newbie - correct me if I'm wrong -.-' )?
That in itself opens up doors... Unlike the ZSS+G&W kick-the-bucket-team (or whatever you wish to call it), there's a large amount of flexibility with Mario as long as the team members maintain the match close to each other (according to boss) and have some decently powerful upward-knockback move (throws, purple pikmin, various dash attacks, Luigi's strong N-air :-D ).
Yet another idea: in a non-team-attack match (how rare are these?), Olimar's U-smash (iirc especially with the use of yellow pikmin due to their unusually large horizontal range [team communication via whistle order :-D :-D :-D ]) could prove invaluable.
I realize that I'm a Luigi main and don't have much to contribute - but a question regarding the cape being used alongside Luigi's missile... It results in the person dying off the top of the stage (not the side), yes? (( EDIT: uhm... wait... Matador said... any direction?? ))
So, along with the bowser vid in tandem with what everyone seems to be saying about the cape (and this appears to have not been said in the thread yet), it could generally be said that the cape will work its magic for any decently strong upward-knockback attack, yes (I am a Mario newbie - correct me if I'm wrong -.-' )?
That in itself opens up doors... Unlike the ZSS+G&W kick-the-bucket-team (or whatever you wish to call it), there's a large amount of flexibility with Mario as long as the team members maintain the match close to each other (according to boss) and have some decently powerful upward-knockback move (throws, purple pikmin, various dash attacks, Luigi's strong N-air :-D ).
Yet another idea: in a non-team-attack match (how rare are these?), Olimar's U-smash (iirc especially with the use of yellow pikmin due to their unusually large horizontal range [team communication via whistle order :-D :-D :-D ]) could prove invaluable.
I'm under the impression that the cape maintains both the magnitude and direction of the vertical momentum over the course of the hit along with the magnitude and negated direction of the horizontal momentum, and that the 'Cape Momentum' is a programmatic artifact of that effect (correct me if I'm wrong). My theory: if you cape Snake just as the grenade hits, no vertical knockback is imparted on him because his lack of momentum is being maintained over the course of the cape's hit (vertical = 0 -> 0, horizontal = 0 -> -0 = 0) (again, correct me if I'm wrong).
Ismael
Smash Ace
I did cape **** today on wi-fi. I was just doing some random team battles, when I got paired up with a Kirby (I was Mario) against a Fox and G&W on Smashville.
Well, we were playing the match, when the Fox player grabbed a capsule. I, on one side of the Fox player noticed this and quickly short hopped, getting ready to cape it if he throw it at me. It turns out the Kirby player noticed the Fox had a capsule as well, so he ran at him, and did his dash attack.
I caped the Fox just as he got knocked slighly upward by the attack, which launched him up even more. Now, the Fox was at 0% when we did this, so he didn't INNITIALLY die. When he got hit upward a little, it seemed okay to simply continue the fight. So he double jumped, went off screen, and he instantly died...
The Fox player was like wtf just happened?
Well, we were playing the match, when the Fox player grabbed a capsule. I, on one side of the Fox player noticed this and quickly short hopped, getting ready to cape it if he throw it at me. It turns out the Kirby player noticed the Fox had a capsule as well, so he ran at him, and did his dash attack.
I caped the Fox just as he got knocked slighly upward by the attack, which launched him up even more. Now, the Fox was at 0% when we did this, so he didn't INNITIALLY die. When he got hit upward a little, it seemed okay to simply continue the fight. So he double jumped, went off screen, and he instantly died...
The Fox player was like wtf just happened?
hippiedude92
Smash Hero
So let's go over what the cape **** just to make sure we're (mostly me >.>) on the right page. Basically it's a doubles combo thinggy, with someone doing a a dthrow or a upthrow while mario does a cape on them amplifying a ****load of verticalheight resulting in star kos at low %s... is that right?
and how is it done in singles???
and how is it done in singles???
Ismael
Smash Ace
If Snake blows himself up with one of his explosives, you can quickly cape him for massive knockback, leading to a KO. It's also good if you use it against Snake's c4 recovery.
Also, if you cape a projectile, and then the cape hits your opponent as they get hit from the reflected projectile, then the knock back will be massive.
Also, if you cape a projectile, and then the cape hits your opponent as they get hit from the reflected projectile, then the knock back will be massive.
Xiahou Dun
Smash Ace
It's simple really. If an opponent is caped during knockback the cape either multiplies OR adds to that knockback (Not sure on which one) so anytime you catch the opponent in knockback in singles with a cape it'll work, just be on the lookout. Maybe a Snake that blew himself up, or somebody hit by a stage hazard on Norfair.
xiferp
Smash Apprentice
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First thing that came into my mind when I read the first post.
ThatGuy
Smash Master
That situation almost never happens however, most of the time when I get to that situation the projectile passes through the opponent because it's too close.
Ussi
Smash Legend
That pikachu needs to learn to not stay under his thunder against people who can reflect thunder.
Matt07
Smash Master
He learned his mistake after that K.O though
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