Bingo Mafia - THE END!

[Cream Team]

Cream Team to be clear. Nabe/Orbo is a viable team in your eyes?

sure

 

[Kantrip]

A Nabe/Cream Team scum team wants me and Orbo lynched for game. This is my most likely scumteam. Dislike them both individually, see the potential for them to be connected, and they have a clear shot to victory.

A Nabe/Orbo scumteam doesn't make much sense as they lack options to win. Orbo is calling me town, and Nabe is letting the Orbo lynch happen. This scumteam is set to lose at this point and would make little sense. Orbo and Nabe being together easily could've joined my wagon and I would've been lynched toDay. I doubt this is the team.

A Nabe/me team wants Cream Team and Orbo lynched I guess. Although I've been fighting the Orbo lynch pretty hard and I would actually prefer a Nabe lynch. Also for the sake of biased analysis I know I'm not scum so this teams out.

A Cream Team/Orbo scumteam wants me and Nabe mislynched. This team is very unlikely due to interactions, however if it were the team and they've just been distancing well, Cream Team would win by bussing Orbo and then back to back lynching me and Nabe. I think this is actually more likely than an Orbo Nabe team.

A team of me and Orbo is basically ****ed but honestly the way we've been hard defending each other is silly scum partner behaviour. I would personally rule this team out, but I understand people who don't.

 

[Kantrip]

Nabe is an infinitely better lynch than Orbo. He's in your pools too. Like, everyone's pools. And he's a huge enigma that will make LyLo hell.

I don't understand Cream Team settling for Orbo over their top pick (me) but not settling for Nabe, the other person in their pool.

You too, jexs, have Nabe in your pool of three.

That's 3 votes right there and I'm sure Orbo, ruy, and Cass would all compromise to Nabe. He's on everyone's scum list!

Vote: Nabe

 

[JeXs]

I'm fine with it.
Vote nabe

 

[Cream Team]

meh. i personally dont give a **** between the three. and honestly kantrips right in that nabe is bein unbelievably horrid. ive ignored him because the pool is orbo/kantrip/nabe and gettin him involved honestly isnt worth it. id rather let em live in his own little world n just lynch em when necessary. idk if garg has a harder stance but id be game.

 

[Kantrip]

3 slots that won't work with anyone in late game sucks really bad

As does quick lynching the cop D1

This ****ing game man

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nah, I'm town.

Deadline is the 28th, let my line of questioning pan out.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You're letting the Orbo wagon continue rather than one on Kantrip, because it has read potential. And you feel it's safe because no one is going to hammer Orbo.


Has the Orbo wagon brought forth any reads for you so far?

You're not concerned that Orbo is being treated as the de facto end to the Day?

Do you intend to make a Kantrip push (your scumread) prior to an Orbo lynch?

Yes to the first paragraph.

I'm less confident in Kantrip scum on a reread and how he has been reacting to the Orbo wagon. I don't see why him acting like that with Orbo would do him favors as scum. His reaction to JeXS is gross though and isn't really looking more towny on that front.

Orbo might be put off like that, but I'm trying to judge trust on this. Cream Team is town and being reminded Cass was Hotcakes, I thought he was Joey whoops. I'm more confident in him being town. He's in my pool so him dying is not a concern to me over 3-4 others not dying before him.

I still would lynch Kantrip before Orbo, but I'm judging how they are posting and acting very carefully.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: Nabe

I would support this before Orbo though.

 

[Kantrip]

Wait so ruy you think I'm townie from your reread but want me before orbo still, and want Nabe more than either of us?

So who is nabes partner?

 

[Kantrip]

Also L-1 warning

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Wait so ruy you think I'm townie from your reread but want me before orbo still, and want Nabe more than either of us?

So who is nabes partner?

I think how you reacted to Chaco is more telling on a reread and makes me less confident in you being scum.

Your Adumb case is still ****, I don't like how you have been reacting to the wagon on you.

Nabe lynch is desired right now. Nabe's partner? Not sure. I would throw you out as a partner if he flipped scum with how you started this.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Also Cream Team was not busing Chaco, he was legit banned for a lot of it and Garg went a different direction as a new player coming into the game.

 

[Orboknown]

Orbo what do you think the scum team is?

Cream Team and Cass?

Yeah. Nabe could easily replace cass on that list,

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Orbo, do you think Hotcakes could have been scum? Or is your scum read coming off how Cass is playing?

 

[Kantrip]

Ruy you think I, as scum with Nabe, would hard defend Orbo and push desperately to swing they lynch towards my partner?

My adum case was wrong and I'll own that, but past that me being scum makes little sense

 

[Orboknown]

Im down for nabe but will let **** play out. Fornation then ajything people need from me lemme know

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I think how you reacted to Chaco is more telling on a reread and makes me less confident in you being scum.

Your Adumb case is still ****, I don't like how you have been reacting to the wagon on you.

Nabe lynch is desired right now. Nabe's partner? Not sure. I would throw you out as a partner if he flipped scum with how you started this.

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Kantrip, I'm saying if Nabe flipped scum I would not consider you a partner.

 

[Kantrip]

Oh you meant throw me out as in retract your scumread. Gotcha.

 

[Cream Team]

NO

unvote

vote kantrip

THIS is what NEEDS to happen. check it.

according to the bingo board, of the players alive, two players are lined up for bingo that we know of: orbo, and nabe. that means lynching between these two toDay gives scum another bingo REGARDLESS of whether theyre scum or not. im not willing to put the game to potential lylo knowing that scum has ANOTHER bingo power to use.

the other two players that are alive and revealed are ruy and casa, and theyre in the same row. these two players shouldnt be touched though.

that leaves cream team, jex, and kantrip as unrevealed. one of us nails a bingo, and the other two are in a row together.

statistically speaking, that means lynching one of us, casa, ruy, jex, or kantrip is the best bet for a non bingo. considering the fact that kantrip is mad scummy, this is the play that needs to happen if we wanna both hope for a scum lynch and a non bingo for scum toNight.

*[theory] assuming kantrip and orbo are scum together, heres the perfectly logical reasoning for them wanting my head on a silver platter: IM THE BINGO SLOT. pullin for me and hoping to sway the lynch toward me gives them another opportunity to score a potentially powerful bingo.[/theory]

heres the perfectly logical reasoning for kantrip wanting to swing to nabe: HE'S A BINGO AND A "LOGICAL" LYNCH. i was caught in the logic that nabe is playing like a piece of ****. but if i learned anything from flavorless, its that sometimes nabe is just a piece of ****. but thats not worth calling scum over.

heres the perfectly logical reasoning for kantrip defending orbo: HE DOESN'T WANT TO LOSE HIS SCUM MATE (even at the gain of a bingo) AND KANTRIP THRIVES ON WIFOM SO HE THINKS THIS LOOKS GOOD FOR HIM OR SOMETHING. occam's razor fellas.

*[theory] heres the perfectly logical reasoning for orbo to defend kantrip: HE'S NOT THE BINGO SLOT AND ALSO THRIVES ON WIFOM SO HE THINKS THIS LOOKS GOOD FOR HIM OR SOMETHING. the guy's been all over the ****ing place in thread. all game. if this is a coincidence, then orbo, you reeeeally need to step up your town play. the problem is that i know youre not THIS much of a dip****.

so guys. lets lynch kantrip. i am NOT moving my vote.

 

[Cream Team]

ebwop

THIS much of a dip****.[/theory]

* theory tags cuz technically the numbers arent revealed, but the logic is VERY sound and it fits like a glove.

 

[Kataefi]

VOTE COUNT:

[3] #HBC | Nabe: Potassium / JeXs / #HBC | Red Ryu
[1] Orboknown: Cassavetes
[1] Cream Team: Orboknown
[1] Potassium: Cream Team

[0] Cassavetes
[0] #HBC | Red Ryu
[0] JeXs

[1] Not Voting: #HBC | Nabe

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!
Deadline set for Sunday, September 28th, 11:59 BST (British Summer Time)

 

[Orboknown]

I don't even.

 

[JeXs]

Unvote
I will vote anyone that's in my scum pool.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Why should a bingo influence who we lynch? They are inevitable since mafia is on the bingo board.

 

[JeXs]

Vote kantrip
I agree with gorf. This is what gives us the best chance of winning(even if the game is already won). This is the only lynch that is in the scum pool that does not give scum a 100% bingo. Definitely don't want to take the risks here.

 

[JeXs]

Why should a bingo influence who we lynch? They are inevitable since mafia is on the bingo board.

Bingo helps scum.

Vote kantrip
I agree with gorf. This is what gives us the best chance of winning(even if the game is already won). This is the only lynch that is in the scum pool that does not give scum a 100% bingo. Definitely don't want to take the risks here.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Yes but we are going down that road at some point, we can't stop a bingo if scum is on the line.

 

[JeXs]

Thing is, we don't want to give scum bingos if we can avoid them. No point making them more powerful.

 

[Cassavetes]

I think that discussing teams (at this moment) and postulating theories is not worth it, but I would hammer Kantrip if someone asked me to.

What's this deal about bingo? I haven't looked into it and I doubt I will any time soon.

 

[JeXs]

Bingos are three numbers in a row and they help scum.

 

[Cassavetes]

It's night mechanics, and I don't think they should factor into our decisions. It just seems like a layering of the game that doesn't mean anything unless you're scum, so if there is ever an argument about lynching someone because of something related to it, I would mark you as VI and disregard your opinion.

 

[JeXs]

If you didn't realize, lynching from the scum pool while not giving scum a definite bingo, IS our best choice of action. WHY would you want to give scum more stuff when you can choose to avoid it.

 

[Cassavetes]

If you want to see me play in a more articulate way, then give me some time to process a flip that I'm around for.

If you didn't realize, lynching from the scum pool while not giving scum a definite bingo, IS our best choice of action. WHY would you want to give scum more stuff when you can choose to avoid it.

You take too much stock in the PRs, I trust that the mod wouldn't give scum a game breaking move, it likely only buffs what they can do against the other PRs; I don't expect for them to instantly get a daykill or something stupid like that.

 

[Kantrip]

ruy talking sense at least. cass too surprisingly lol

this is the exact same **** Chaco tried to pull. he shouted "oh no if you lynch me scum gets a bingo you guys are getting manipulated"

Guess what? All scummers are on the bingo board too. If there are scum where bingos are lined up, we're going to have to give them those bingos eventually. The fact that Nabe is still alive even though he was already revealed to be the third slot needed for a bingo should be a point against him, not for him!

if scum wanted a second bingo so bad, they could have night killed Nabe or Orbo and gotten it right then and there! Cream Team trying to swing to me for this janky setup reason is scummy as ****

pretty much solidifies my Cream Team/Nabe scumteam.

 

[JeXs]

Yea but why take the risk? He's a scummy and he's not a guaranteed bingo. Should be obvious now that he's our best lynch.

 

[Cassavetes]

I am not against him at all. You have my support in Kantrip/Orbo. I cannot determine a read on Nabe right now other that he is either holding his cards too close or he has nothing and is just coasting this day.

 

[Kantrip]

Thing is, we don't want to give scum bingos if we can avoid them. No point making them more powerful.

We CAN'T avoid them.

If Nabe is scum, we're giving scum that bingo eventually. This changes nothing, and I haven't even been taking the board into account with my lynches. There's no use doing so because it just makes us back off of reads for the sake of "not giving scum bingos."

That's bull****. Get your vote back on Nabe. Everything I said about him still applies and we do not want that in LyLo.

 

[Kantrip]

Yea but why take the risk? He's a scummy and he's not a guaranteed bingo. Should be obvious now that he's our best lynch.

Sometimes I hate your any-way-the-wind-blows sheep attitude.

At least think some things through for yourself.

If you lynch me toDay, do NOT ****ing default to Orbo toMorrow. Cream Team is scummy as all hell, and Nabe is their likely partner.

We should be getting rid of Nabe toDay since, you know, have fun with an inactive in LyLo, but this town is spineless.

 

[JeXs]

We can avoid them for now. All while lynching from the scum pool.