Bingo Mafia: OVAH! Who won?

[Asdioh]

oh my god I swear Livetopic messes up this thread so that some posts don't appear while others do. It looked like 1158 came right after 1151 ._.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

yeah livetopic gets pretty stupid.

 

[Seikend]

@Seik again

PR's are supposed to be leaders, and be aggresive.

10 disagrees, but fine.

Asdioh, can you answer my 1153 please?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Asdioh why do you only have notes on the first 10 pages?

Other than that I'm feeling pretty good about your claim. Still want a J or a Smar lynch today.

 

[Asdioh]

Asdioh why do you only have notes on the first 10 pages?

Other than that I'm feeling pretty good about your claim. Still want a J or a Smar lynch today.

Because that was what happened before I caught up with the game.

10 disagrees, but fine.

Asdioh, can you answer my 1153 please?

ok v---

Before you read your alignment, how do you think you were playing?

Assuming you had a scum role? Or town role?

I tried to play as if I were town. I had suspicions about myself though.

You should try it sometime, it's pretty nerve-wracking and fun.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@Glyph

since my suspicsion of Nabe leads towards smarg i'd be willing to do smarg easily.

 

[Aposl]

glyph who do you want more, J or Smarg? Reasons for both? More centered on Smarg reasoning though...

 

[Seikend]

Urghhh, I honestly haven't liked your recent play at all Asdioh but I believe your claim.

I'm still open to you being scum but you're fine for toDay.

One question though. Why so unclear on your stance on Smarg?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Aposl I've been pretty clear on all the points you just asked about.

J is my first pick, then Smar. For my case against J just pick through my old posts, you should come across quite a few with my justifications. Smar I've felt has been exceptionally opportunistic (like at the beginning of the game when she pushed your lynch), and has been more worried about looking town than actually being town (see: her post I quoted recently with the "i know you guys asked me questions but here is something that looks townie instead")

 

[KevinM]

So about that smarg lynch we should form on :D

Vote Smarg

 

[Asdioh]

10 disagrees, but fine.

Also kind of disagreed. A VT has no role to lose, so they can afford to be aggressive and be framed for it, as long as they got their opinions out there. It also depends on the player, some players might play aggressive regardless of their role, etc.

Personally, I've played conservatively with a PR, and aggressively as vanilla. The problem with my PR play is that I get NKed before getting my opinions on players out in the open.

Anyway, I've said pretty much everything I need. Now I just have to see how people react! Especially J

@Seiks latest question: I've said in my notes and posts that my stance on Smarg was town/null, right? It's been unclear recently simply because I'm having trouble remembering what she's said. That's why I wanted to reread her before posting my role stuff :/

 

[Seikend]

@Seiks latest question: I've said in my notes and posts that my stance on Smarg was town/null, right? It's been unclear recently simply because I'm having trouble remembering what she's said. That's why I wanted to reread her before posting my role stuff :/

It was your towny read on Smarg, then a few posts later Smarg not being on your town list that set alarm bells off.

Alright.


Vote: Smargaret

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

vote smarg

gonna need some responses later though.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

holy crap seikend you ninjaed right when i did.

 

[Asdioh]

Smarg has 5 votes on her right now. That was fast o_O

 

[Aposl]

Vote count?

 

[KevinM]

Not enough for Smarg to be dead and then for a vig to shoot you :D

 

[Aposl]

Why would a vig shoot me? Just wondering...

 

[Aposl]

wouldnt a vig want the town tosee what smarg flips so that discussion can be held about me? Or are you scum, knowing Smarg will flip scum, so you want my death to look like a vig did it?

 

[Aposl]

now that I think bout it why are you voting smargaret,specific reasons Kevin M!

 

[Asdioh]

Kev, I have to ask what your thoughts on me are. Does my claim make sense with the way I've played?

I'll reread smarg in the morning @_@

 

[Seikend]

.__.

I liked your play Aposl. Then you go and ask Glyph something he's been pretty clear about, and then ask Kevin for his reasons for smarg scum.

Kev was like, one of the first to pick up on Smarg scum.

 

[Aposl]

He picked up on it but did he state a reason, that wasnt based on me being town? I dont think he did, his reasoning was similar to glyphs I beleive or think, so in that case him wanting me to die makes no sense, I will re read now

 

[Seikend]

Do you know how to check one person's posts in a thread?

Check KevinM's posts. It's pretty clear what his reasoning is for smarg scum. Not dependant on you being town at all I'm afraid.

 

[Dooms]

@Mod: Joey is no longer a part of the Pink Lemonade hydra.

 

[Seikend]

Ughh. I know your reasoning Joey.

But please, give it a day to settle before you decide.

 

[KevinM]

Smarg is scum.. that's solid reasoning.

:D

I want you dead because you haven't been useful and haven't made any connections.

If you're scum we don't find you, if you're town you're a liability as the game moves on.

Vig pew pews you that settles that

 

[Aposl]

Im soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo stupid. Sorry Kevin M. SMH! wow I will really pay better attention from now on.

But, still curious about ordering vig around, guess you can cuz you are the vig, or you are THAT town, that you could. Dont think you are scum, but in theory if you are, you got alot of people convinced you are town, wich would be pretty good for you if you actually were able to control the vig.

Now I see you think smarg is scummy, because of her parroting etc... but I have been anit smarg, so the conclusion I am coming to is that you think this is a strategy to throw town off?

Im interested, if you have it, for a full Mafia roster in your opinion, so I can try to figure out how your thought process works, if thats cool.

 

[Aposl]

wow at kevins last post. WOW because his logic not only was like mine at the begenning of the game, but that was cosidered scummy logic. Basically I dont care who you are I find you useless towney or undetectable scum, get rid of you now because..... and then dont really see reasoning.Is it not as scummy to have this stance just because you want a vig to kill me? I dont get it but it actually just comes of as lazy Kevin, and FYI I am town (youve made it clear you dont care) and apparently I have to convince you? Oh wait I dont, because there probably is no vig, you are probably town, and I am not going to focus on this anymore because it doesnt help town! Looks at avatar.

 

[KevinM]

If I had to pick a three man mafia roster in this game?

Oh man idk.

Smarg, (J/Glyph), Last one would come after some Night Kill info garnered.

Definitely don't want to deal with J v Glyph as T v T but it would be stupid to lynch people who are more active with stances vs the Smarg being inactive for most of D1 while still being gracious enough to list scum and town on her list.

That's something worth lynching :D

 

[KevinM]

Also I wish I was vig I never get to be that guy.. at least I am so town it hurts this game.

 

[KevinM]

Also Aposl.. I'm down to lynch useless kids all day erryday.. I think you're town but I don't see you doing anything hence if a Vig shoots you we lose nothing gain info and gain a clear eventually later on in the game. Worst comes to worst we get the whole mafia trying to be cute with the I'm gonna cc the vig gambit that they will ALWAYS lose.

 

[Aposl]

well I would like to say I rather hear you say you dont care if vig shoots me, rather than, gettem Vig!

Also, now I am confused, you said earlier I was scum, then you said (if aposl flips T he was useless, but he might be undetectable M so its worth it?) Now I am definitely useless town (vig fodder in your opinion) evn though Im definitley town just useless. WHEN IS IT EVER OKAY TO BE FOR TOWN DYING!

Plus what if Asidoh is right and you are serial killer, I mean think about it, you dont care if I die and Im mafia or town, you are assumed SO town that if Mafia kills you then links start to get made (obviously if you flip they dont, but they arent thinking that are they? So they are going to leave you alone. You have also made yourself so obviously town you wont get lynched but also not to seem like a PR. So Mafia has 2 reasons not to go after you) And you constantly talk about vig so that when 2 people die people will think vig not serial killer. Am I right, huh am I?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

@Mod: Joey is no longer a part of the Pink Lemonade hydra.

Very curious as to why.

 

[KevinM]

Searching for serial killer in a game without any confirmed secondary night kill sources seems like a good idea truly.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Why would mafia want to leave someone who's generally considered town alone, that's just one less person for them to get mislynched.

 

[Aposl]

what do I have to lose? Im not trying to lynch you so my accusation will gain steam day 2 if it happens right? What are you worried about Kevin?

BTW claiming a vig without the same criteria is probably just as good myright?

 

[Aposl]

@ Glyph, you right, but this is Day 1 with plenty of people who dont have allot of heat on them, killing Kevin makes his arguments and votes etc look a certain way if he flips town. With no double night kill to confirm said vig/ serial killer, they probably will assume for this day that the person they kill will flip town, like its the only possablility. What they will want to do is vote the person who is the most obvious townie with the least correct leads. Kevin M may be playing super smart with all sorts of crazy good reads, so if they kill him Mafia looks like mafia. Meanwhile IF (Im just throwing this out as theory) Kevin M was a serial killer (in game of course) he can sit safe as lead townie. Hes probably smart enough to know that through the game , as in next day, or the day after, he can transition to NOT looking the most town, got it?

Glyph if you were Mafia who would you kill tonight?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Why would mafia want to leave someone who's generally considered town alone, that's just one less person for them to get mislynched.

glyph, do you feel she left because of frustrated mafia, or town?

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

@ Glyph, you right, but this is Day 1 with plenty of people who dont have allot of heat on them, killing Kevin makes his arguments and votes etc look a certain way if he flips town. With no double night kill to confirm said vig/ serial killer, they probably will assume for this day that the person they kill will flip town, like its the only possablility. What they will want to do is vote the person who is the most obvious townie with the least correct leads. Kevin M may be playing super smart with all sorts of crazy good reads, so if they kill him Mafia looks like mafia. Meanwhile IF (Im just throwing this out as theory) Kevin M was a serial killer (in game of course) he can sit safe as lead townie. Hes probably smart enough to know that through the game , as in next day, or the day after, he can transition to NOT looking the most town, got it?

Glyph if you were Mafia who would you kill tonight?

Fishing for town reads is not good man, especially when done like this. It gives scum a nice blueprint to follow for their NKs, and I'd kinda like to avoid that.

glyph, do you feel she left because of frustrated mafia, or town?

Really impossible to say with one member of a three man hydra leaving. I would like to know the reason for his withdrawal before I pass any judgment on it.