Bingo Mafia: OVAH! Who won?

[#HBC | Nabe]

I'd be cool with that.

 

[#HBC | J]

Then you are not going to like my response to this either.

Take a look at the phrase he uses to express my scum read based off his infamous early post. "J is scum cuz he's scum lol GG guys I da bess cuz I called him first post cuz that is just soooo scummeh."

The first part, "J is scum cuz he's scum lol GG guys I da bess" is very clearly a dig at me to try and give me an air of stupidity. Since his defense of "but I was excited!" didn't convince me (and hopefully you guys) that the first post was scummy, the only other thing he could do was undermine the very point itself.

But that's not my favorite part.

"I called him first post". That is an admission of being scum. He clearly already knows he's scum, otherwise this little piece of the sentence would not have existed. For example, a townJ with the same intentions that ScumJ had in writing this quote would have put something like:

"J is scum cuz he's scum lol GG guys I da bess cuz I didn't like his supah scummeh first post cuz that is just soooo scummeh." (okay I'm not very good at writing like that but hopefully you've got the idea)

The word "called' very strongly insinuates that my ScumJ case is correct, especially when you consider how much time goes into an ISO case (particularly in regards to how little each small quote like that one would get). J scum slipped.

Whoa whoa whoa. You say that I openly admitted to being scum, scum slipped, and talked in a way that town would not and a way a ScumJ would act. Where the **** are you getting this bull? You are calling scum-slips based on what wording you don't agree with?

*must maintain urge to vote Glyph*

*sigh*

Alright.

Translation: I don't care.

What?

@ J, TDW, Smarg Thought's on Soup voting but not unvoting?

Seems legitamate to me but what's more keen is the way Asdioh reacted when he was put at L-1 instead of the not unvoting

Imo the way Asdioh reacted to being put a L-1 was really townie. It looks very much like he's not playing for self-preservation #994 is also a VERY strong town tell there imo. He gets put at L-1 and he's not concerned with dying, or being lynched. He's concerned with scumhunting and pointing out Soup's inconsistencies.

I've explained my read on Asdioh. He's done some scummy things - that resulted in the wagon - and he's done some townie things - most notably in his reaction to being at L-1. I don't think he's the right lynch today. I think that the two balance out to null, I'd lean town if you absolutely forced me to go one way or the other.

He's not concerned with dying or being lynched? It's a town tell to him being at L-1? What are you two blithering on about?

Spoiler

I know the last votecount says it's on Kevin, but votes are pretty easy to see. How hard are you skimming?

I hope you didn't just lynch me I wanted to see more from the likes of X1/Kuz, wanted to see if anyone wanted me to claim, etc.

Would you mind unvoting for now?

But then you voted me?

hjkfdgjkfdhgtdkh

does anybody else... ... .. kdjfjgof

Well, Soup's gone. Hopefully nobody's dumb enough to hammer me with 4 days remaining.

Smarg, do you have any thoughts on J or I or anyone else?

@JTB: am I still deserving of your vote? (//.-)

No crap ;_;

Blame Soup.

........? I do not see at all where you two are coming from with the obvtown reaction to being at L-1 because I am getting the opposite where right after he was put at L-1 he requested to be taken off, asks about if people are gonna vote him (JTB) and shows legitmate concern to dieing which contradicts your main point of it being a town-tell cuz of it to me personally.

I would be willing to lynch Smarg at this point too.

Who's interested?

Meh, I'm sticking with Asdioh.

I'd be cool with that.

Why? You've said she is scum but what about her exactly?

 

[#HBC | J]

WHY CAN I NO HAVE ORANGE IN BIG POSTS?

;_;

Anyways, Seikend which wagon are you gonna hop on? Smarg/Asdioh? Also tell me who you plan to look at concerning both flips (smarg/asdioh) and both scum/town flips.

 

[Seikend]

@J What's your current read of Smarg at least?

 

[#HBC | J]

This game she is my definition of null.

I honestly need to go back and read through her posts again but from what I remember and from what I have seen, she seems almost like an enigma and I could see both ways to what she is doing.

 

[Seikend]

I'm on the Smarg wagon. I'll remain on it unless I see it's going nowhere.

At that point I'll go with Asdioh.

In terms of leads on flips? I haven't considered that honestly. I'll get back to you on that.

Please do re-read Smarg.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@J

curious, but is there a reason you excluded me in your post?

 

[#HBC | J]

Fine, I'll re-read smarg, you give me who you'll look at on both flips and get back to each other kay?

Soupa, I also excluded KevinM, TDW, PL, and Apsol i believe. Idk didn't think of anything relevant to say besides of the quote Seikend said to respond to.

 

[Seikend]

Seieknd ISO:

I just noticed this.

Seieknd

.__.;

 

[#HBC | J]

Soupa, got something for ya, talk to me about Nabe.

 

[Seikend]

@J Will do.

 

[Asdioh]

WHY CAN I NO HAVE ORANGE IN BIG POSTS?

Why would you not use the Preview Post button, especially for big posts that you're not allowed to edit?

I just noticed this.

Seieknd

.__.;

That's nothing compared to everyone calling me Asidoh all the time.

I'm not willing to vote for Smarg yet, I will do a reread of her though and see how that sits with me.

 

[#HBC | J]

I do Asdioh but that's not the problem DX

I view it so many times, re-type the tags and preview and still no luck at all ;____;

 

[#HBC | J]

Nabe, can you go into detail about JTB aaaaaand GLG. If one of them is scum, who is the more likely.

Also can you find the GLG in the GLG? I can't ._.

 

[#HBC | J]

Wow so many people viewing, *really hopped up on wanting to ask questions to all of them*.

Let's do it then!

Aposl, I liked your last post. Can you go more into depth on the players you didn't talk about?

PL, what is your read on Aposl. IDC which head just tell me what your current thought is now.

Asdioh, consider this. It is down to you and your top town reads, who are they and which one of them is scum for what reason?

 

[#HBC | J]

KevinM, can you talk about TDW?

TDW, can you talk about KevinM?

I don't think I remember you to talking about each other that much. Let's change that! ^^

Also another question, TDW you said Smarg was acting soooooo scummy, how was what she said/done scummy in your opinion AND are you planning on changing your vote to her over Asdioh?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

J, what games have you played with Smarg before?
IMO her posts are inherently scummy; I've pointed out the recent ones. Her votes are weightless and shifty and opportunistic.

That said, the lynch isn't going anywhere. Asdioh is going.


JTB is scummier, X1 null. The GLG part of GLG hasn't been posting, I asked that earlier.

Check out JTB's 125, that's what started it for me. He makes sure to make a note of the fact that he's wagoning, specifically, and not voting of his own accord. He has a very different posting style from an ongoing game in which he was clearly town and flipped such.

I felt better about him after his 442 though, and after JTB v. Seik in which I thought Seik was scum. I now think it was probably TvT.

I like his lynch for connections to you, but your play has been alright. I liked your 409 in which you seemed to genuinely read Pink well -- supports the idea of J/Pink but otherwise looks pretty alright. I didn't like your 534 in which IMO you took a bit of an odd jump, but then I realized you were v/la at the time and it could be attributed to that.

 

[Aposl]

Alright Vote Smarg again!

I was going to lay off this avenue, but because it seems to be heating up I definitley want to get rid of this scumbag!

First off from a completely self perspective: I am town, but smargaret isn't just going after me but badgering me over every little miss step. Why SO focused on me? I feel like that I am targeted hard core for very little reason. The amount of targeting on me, I mean really? Ive had max 3 votes at once, and one was to force participation: Translation if I was as obvious as Smarg thinks I am I wouldve been lynched. Why does she think I am this obvious a candidate over such weak reasons. I mean I will admit that I did miss step sometimes and she called me out fr it, or what I did could be seen as a miss step. But she has literally always seen everything I do from the worst perspective.

Smarg even votes similarly but saying when I voted soup for putting Asidoh in lynch range, then asked Asidoh if he agreed? I understand if asked ANYONE else, but its obvious Asidoh would agree, but he was the only one looking ATM, I was hoping I could get something out of him. IDK I guess now that I am trying to get info out of people Im scum......

Seikend's arguments convinced me enought to take action, along with Kevin M seeming interested, but dont do it again Kevin, seem interested in going after Smarg then NOT DOING IT!

Also Asidoh Im not you dawg.

 

[Asdioh]

so, when i'm pressuring or focusing on someone else, i'm town...but when i'm focusing on you and put a vote on you, i'm scum?



Calling the kettle black again, you reached out for KevinM for a minute, and when that didn't work, you put your vote back on J, someone who is a high lynch suspect.

to me, that is backing down, if you felt strong about KevinM, why did you unvote him and go to an easier vote such as J?

where's your aggressive playstyle you said you were using? all i see is a coward.

No, it was the manner and the timing that was scummy.
The manner: J was doing all the work building cases against me, you go and just say you agree with him (never saying specifically what you agree with, just that I'm scummy)
The timing: I was at L-2 asking people not to bring me to L-1 and yet you still did it, claiming that the outdated mod votecount was what you thought it was, which means you somehow missed two other votes on me AND the fact that I said I was L-2 and not wanting to go to L-1. That is deadly skimming, when you can mislynch someone just by not paying attention, and I didn't like it at alllllllllllll especially when you didn't unvote like I requested, but come back the next day saying "I knew others would unvote." Yes, this all happened to be on me, but if it was on someone else I can assure you I would find that extremely scummy.


As for being aggressive, I consider making a case and accusation against Kevin in itself to be pretty damn aggressive. Look what happened to me, largely because of it. I became an easy vote for a lot of people because it looked scummy, but that was my stance and I took it. As for backing down, that doesn't matter. It is too late in the day, with too many other lynch choices, to continue pushing for someone that's simply not going to be lynched toDay. What matters is that I made my stance and people will be able to look back later on and see it.

 

[Aposl]

Nabe I really dont like you telling peole who to lynch based on vote count atm, seems opportunistic to bully people into rationale other than their own instincts, reads, and thought processes. Seems ore like a bored player who wants to get to the next round, than someone pro town, IMO.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Where to start lol..

at the beginning of the game, there was BSL.
and the mod said this was good.

but then, BSL modded out, and was sent to hell.

come forth, Nabe, god said.
and nabe was born.

serious post part

Oh lol.
Starting my read fresh, then. BSL was my scumpick. I thought maybe I was replacing Kuz/Gord.

Huh.

i find this a very interesting post.

Yeah, I can be caught up in the next couple hours if it's a rush, lol. But I'd rather go slowly and get a better sense of the timeframe and how things transpired.

I see my vote is on Glyph though, that's no good.

Vote: TDW

speechless.

Smarg, tell me why I should keep my vote here when you next post. Thanks.

honestly..i'm speechless again.

=/ Smarg comes in and doesn't respond to my question oh man that's helpful.

okay i know what i want to say, i can't ****ing word it.

Done my read.

X1, has GLG not been playing this game whatsoever? What do you think of JTB?

okay so..at first..he thought he was replacing in as kuz/gord, but he had a scum-read on BSL, even before he replaced in.

he votes TDW.

then, he ask smarg a question, she ignores him. why? i'm not sure.

Nabe then throws something random out about JTB and X1, i'm okay with that i guess, if he has good reasoning to JTB then that's fine.

however..

i feel he is coasting at this point.

Pink, you've just read a whole case about Kev, and agreed with it. Is that really a question that you should be asking Asdioh? After all, his case convinced you to put your vote on Kev.

"Hello, i'm going to redirect this question onto someone else, and see what i can get out of it."

BSL iirc was rolefishing and admitted to as much, saying "Why shouldn't I if I think he's scum?" So the point that you don't think he was is flatout wrong.

covering himself for someone's own mistakes?

Is there some reason you bring up JTB specifically?

And don't edit, lol.

"give me a reason to push on JTB."

Nabe's #929 is okay..i feel it needs to be looked at in a more experienced players eyes..

I also like his #963 he notices asdioh isn't playing the same way he plays as town.

Oh gosh I like Seik's play all of a sudden. Glad to see support for the idea of Smargscum.
1059 is an ugly switch to Soup that coincides with the first person to really lay a vote on Smarg.

X1, check out the exchange that goes on in 1042 > Bottom of 1045 > 1052, i.e. TDW/Asdioh.

hmmm..do you guys think that the question to smarg, and smarg not answering it, and avoiding nabe, and now nabe willing to go smarg, town or scum, for both of them, i feel there is a connection between them, and i feel that there was for BSL too.

i know my wording is bad, i apologize.

anyways, i posted the quotes to be looked at and discussed, my opnion on nabe after looking at him is null, but if BSL were still around, i'd probably still be on him.

 

[Asdioh]

That said, the lynch isn't going anywhere. Asdioh is going.

just when I thought it was safe!

Also Asidoh Im not you dawg.

If you're talking about the spelling of my name, it's fine. I literally had a list on my old computer of people that spelled my name wrong, back in like 2008. The list was very ... long.

 

[Seikend]

@Soup.

There's a connection between Nabe and Smarg. That's great, but what kind?

 

[Aposl]

no what I said about not being you was against your read on me XD

Nabe vote smarg you say you thinks shes scum, KevinM u 2 then thats 4, if not then I just will be confused because you guys said you were for it. Am I wrong?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

1100 is a terrific example of why Aposl is town. He posted that quick, he's gutsy. Town recklessness.

Soup is probably town, but there's a terrific case for Smarg/Soup lying just out of reach and I really want to make it

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Asdioh, you should claim if you haven't already, we're getting to that time.

 

[Asdioh]

Seik I have been and still am all for a Smar lynch. Just not as much as I'd like a J lynch, and I'd say probably about the same amount as I'd want an Asdioh lynch.

So for you right now, it's
1. J
2. Smarg/Asdioh?

I need to ask, your top scumpick is tunneling your not-as-high scumpick really hard. Like, really hard. What is your opinion on that?

I would be willing to lynch Smarg at this point too.

Who's interested?

Could you give at least like one line as to why instead of always jumping in when it's safe to do so?

 

[Aposl]

Nabe your a bully, LOL

 

[Asdioh]

Asdioh, you should claim if you haven't already, we're getting to that time.

I really hoped I would get through D1 without claiming. I will do it soon enough though if I'm forced to.

It will by no means assure my survival, but it will at least be fun.

 

[Seikend]

J, you're probably gonna have to double check my work, I'm not so confident that I'm looking at the right things. How's this for a start?

On Smarg scumflip: GLG, Asdioh

GLG: Smarg has what I see as an unfounded town read on GLG. GLG failing to comment at all on Smarg's list and Smarg's town read, and instead focusing on other things.

Asdioh: Smarg remains what is essentially null on Asdioh, L-1 candidate. Asdioh doesn't comment on Smarg. In #1045 Smarg is towny, In #1062 Smarg disappears from the town list.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@Seikend

i'm going to go look at BSL too for a minute.

@Asdioh

i'll get back to you also.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I really hoped I would get through D1 without claiming. I will do it soon enough though if I'm forced to.

It will by no means assure my survival, but it will at least be fun.

In all honesty, you probably wouldn't have really had to if you hadn't said this just now, lol. I'm only one man. But this is pretty incriminating.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

Whoa whoa whoa. You say that I openly admitted to being scum, scum slipped, and talked in a way that town would not and a way a ScumJ would act. Where the **** are you getting this bull? You are calling scum-slips based on what wording you don't agree with?

*must maintain urge to vote Glyph*

*sigh*

Alright.

If it isn't our old friend OMGUS! And I maintain that the quote I pointed out was a scum slip, it has nothing to do with you being who you are. Any player who says "You called me as scum" is flat out admitting that they are scum, and I'm honestly aghast that no one else has even commented on that point.

You are so scummy it needs no explanation. -_- How's that?

What. The quote I pulled was you saying a townAsdioh flip would implicate me as scum.... as would a scumAsdioh flip. You're going to back BOTH those stances up now.

I look forward to your reply!
Love,
Glyphmoney

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

1100 is a terrific example of why Aposl is town. He posted that quick, he's gutsy. Town recklessness.

1100 is me.

Soup is probably town, but there's a terrific case for Smarg/Soup lying just out of reach and I really want to make it

i just posted a case on you with smarg, i'm sorry but..what?

 

[Seikend]

EBWOP:

When I say Asdioh doesn't comment on smarg, I mean Smarg's list of stances.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

edit: 1111 is me..

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

So for you right now, it's
1. J
2. Smarg/Asdioh?

I need to ask, your top scumpick is tunneling your not-as-high scumpick really hard. Like, really hard. What is your opinion on that?

Correct on the list, and I'm leaning towards a bus. I'm not ruling out the possibility that he's just looking for a scapegoat either though.

 

[Asdioh]

Asdioh: Smarg remains what is essentially null on Asdioh, L-1 candidate. Asdioh doesn't comment on Smarg. In #1045 Smarg is towny, In #1062 Smarg disappears from the town list.

I can't deny this. She's been pretty silent about me, I've been pretty.. defensive? about her for part of the game, and then null on her for the other parts. If one of us is lynched, the other is going to be looked at regardless of the flip, yes?

In all honesty, you probably wouldn't have really had to if you hadn't said this just now, lol. I'm only one man. But this is pretty incriminating.

It's a little unique, that's all.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

Aposl?

The last time we discussed him, he was leaning scum, but we were debating if it was because of noob mistakes or him actually being scummy. That's what I got from it anyways.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

It's a little unique, that's all.

Yeah, claim. Now.