Bingo Mafia: OVAH! Who won?

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

@PL: ok, so that's Ran agreeing with me (for now at least), Joey thinking I'm scum. I saw July viewing this thread just a moment ago, what does she think?

What good will it do? It depends on what kind of scum player Kevin is, should he flip scum. Is he the kind that will bus his scummates (ex. potentially J, should he flip scum, or MAYBE bsl)? The kind that will put "a lot of pressure" on them early on and then pull off (ex. potentially Smarg, or Aposl) or the kind that will give/receive buddying vibes (potentially you, MAAAAAAAYBE GLG) or the kind that will barely acknowledge scummates?

See how little this helps? I really don't like how persistently you've been asking this question.

Asdioh this quote could have tremendous impact, depending on what Kevin and you flip. I really don't like how persistently you've avoided answering my question.

 

[X1-12]

Not really. I used my own thoughts. I skimmed the whole thing.

I never liked Kev using BSL as a scapegoat.

Substantiate this. How was Kev scapegoating BSL? Explain fully


ok my next post is big and it WILL be on the hydra, I promise

 

[smargaret]

Nabe - I checked while making dinner and wasn't in a position to post at the moment, sorry. But look at TDW's 650 - I call him out on fence-sitting and setting up lynches in advance, and his response is basically "lol yeah I'm doing that."

Alright heres a post guys XD

@Smargeret

I come up with an idea at the beginning of the game, I am a noob, so I think its brilliant, then everyone ****s on my idea except Kevein M. So I ask is this sarcasm just so I dont feel like a tool when he says, it was, Your idea was obviously garbz. You keep needling me about this POV, asking who would I pick. At the time it was seikend, not anymore though, I did say this at the beginning already though! So Why keep bringing it up? Your scum, or you dont believe that I thought that was a good idea. Sorry I is noob if you are town, but I dont think so, I think you are scum.

@ JTB

No i will not post what I think about other people right now because I am town, and I am a novice. If I was better at this or maybe had other people posting on my account as well (really hate hydras) maybe I could be a better presence. But because I am town and dont want to disadvantage my team by having incomplete opinions on people posted, then look scummy, I am just going to address the hate from Smarg on me atm. However, I do think I can only do this day 1. Once someone is lynched I will scum hunt my *** off because I will actually have some evidence to go off of.

@ everyone

has anyone discussed what the hell the opening story was all about? Does that have any significance, or any clues to anything? Thought about that for a while but I guess that doesn't really matter cuz no one brought it up...

This is a very scummy post. 1. AtE. 2. Excessive playing of the noob card. 3. setup speculation when there's no cause. 4. *insert parroting of J here* 5. delaying - promising scumhunting Day 2 and assuming he'll be alive Day 2.

To respond to the bits of it directed to me: Yes, I think you're scum and that you're looking to use this as an easy mislynch, and then your buddies jumped on it when you got into the QT.

I also don't like Joey saying Ran's vote wasn't what the hydra thought. That's very suspicious behavior coming from a hydra. IGMEOY.

Unvote
Vote: Aposl

This wagon needs to happen.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

good enough for me i guess, any idea what we do next day though?

unvote vote Aposl

 

[GandhiLaserGun]

Done my read.

X1, has GLG not been playing this game whatsoever? What do you think of JTB?

GLG hasn't posted, but he's read the game, I asked him his thoughts on JTB and Asdioh and he said that he thinks JTB is trying to hard to look town, rather than just being town

@Aposl: Just assume that you not providing content will result in us wagonning you and because of this you then providing content. Now to save time in this whole procedure, you are just going to post some real content as soon as you see this.

@Nabe: Comment on this:

In #552 I state that I think Ran should post on the hydra. Its after a bolded section that says "@Pink Lemonade"
In #577 Joey somehow manages to not notice the part of my #552.

OK, so what? He skimmed, no biggie really.

#789 Joey posts saying that Asdioh has missed out some of the points against him. Joey misses a huge paragraph directed at him in bold, but notices a few missing paragraphs from a wall of text?

In fact if we just look at #789

I have no idea where Ran and July are, but where ever they are, I guess they left me to post.

Asdioh, why did you skip like half of his big post? I read through your responces and his post, and you skipped quite a bit of the big stuff.

FoS: Asdioh

Since I'm one head of the hydra and I have no idea where the other two are.

I'm not gonna lie looks like terrible scum distancing to me - couple that with the fact he's paying particular attention to the case on Asdioh for some reason. Thoughts Nabe?


@Kevin: How does this order of lynches sound to you? J -> Asdioh -> Smar/Pink Lemonade. Is there anyone you'd like to throw in there?

@Smar: Explain the following

1.) How AtE is scummy
2.) Why you call out Aposl for AtE but not J
3.) How set-up speculation is down to scummy intent rather than not knowing what to do
4.) Is it scummy when you parrot J? If not explain what's different here
5.) Why its scummy to assume you'll be alive N2
6.) Explain how its scummy for Ran to have different thoughts from the other's in the hydra

 

[smargaret]

1 and 2, because they're linked: I find AtE to be more of a scumtell from new players, who haven't necessarily figured out how to defend against legitimate accusations. J has a meta of AtEing regardless of alignment, so it's a nulltell from him.

3. The VT role pm has no role-related information in it. Thus, people who do seem to have a clue about the setup didn't receive a VT role pm. It's rolefishing.

4. It's not parroting so much as aggravation that once again J said the same thing I was thinking, but he said it before me so now I can't say it.

5. Only scum knows who the nk is going to be (or isn't going to be, rather).

6. It's not scummy for Ran to have different thoughts from Joey/July, it is scummy for Ran to take a stance and Joey to come in and say "Ooops, other head, no idea what he was thinking, this is what we really believe" and use the fact that they're in a hydra to back away from a stance.

 

[GandhiLaserGun]

1.) Would a newb-townie who's panicked or cornered not AtE?

3.) What the hell. I asked why its specifically down to scummy intent. You're reaching really far there. How do you know he wasn't just trying to be useful, but going about it the wrong way?

5.) Reaching as balls. I assume I'm going to be alive tomorrow, problem? No. Why should we assume that we're going to die toNight?

6.) You don't understand. They had different stances. That's not scummy, two players have two different stances. Tough ****.

 

[KevinM]

At GLG like this train more

Asdioh-> (IF Vig Shoot Aposl night 1) -> See from there

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Nabe - I checked while making dinner and wasn't in a position to post at the moment, sorry. But look at TDW's 650 - I call him out on fence-sitting and setting up lynches in advance, and his response is basically "lol yeah I'm doing that."

Yes, I saw that reasoning in my read. What I was really looking for, though, was for you to continue to be supportive of this vote or otherwise acknowledge it, because prior to my read I saw that you were the only one voting for TDW.

Unvote
Vote: Aposl

This wagon needs to happen.

This is ugly. This is an easy vote framed with easy logic, and it comes in the same post where you answer the question, "Why should someone vote for TDW".

Do you feel you tried adequately to convince people of a TDW lynch? If not, what was your intention in voting TDW to begin with? Is an Aposl lynch how you see the Day ending?


@Soup, Smarg convinced you that Aposl was a good vote, yes?

Do you feel you tried adequately to convince people of a BSL/Nabe lynch? If not, what was your intention in voting BSL to begin with? Has your opinion of my slot changed? Is an Aposl lynch how you see the Day ending?

@Nabe: Comment on this:

In #552 I state that I think Ran should post on the hydra. Its after a bolded section that says "@Pink Lemonade"
In #577 Joey somehow manages to not notice the part of my #552.

OK, so what? He skimmed, no biggie really.

#789 Joey posts saying that Asdioh has missed out some of the points against him. Joey misses a huge paragraph directed at him in bold, but notices a few missing paragraphs from a wall of text?

In fact if we just look at #789I'm not gonna lie looks like terrible scum distancing to me - couple that with the fact he's paying particular attention to the case on Asdioh for some reason. Thoughts Nabe?

I don't think it's odd that they're paying attention to Asdioh, but I do think more varied attention should be paid by them to others overall. After my interactions with Ran last night though, I'm content with their slot again and they aren't particularly a concern for me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@Soup, Smarg convinced you that Aposl was a good vote, yes?

Do you feel you tried adequately to convince people of a BSL/Nabe lynch? If not, what was your intention in voting BSL to begin with? Has your opinion of my slot changed? Is an Aposl lynch how you see the Day ending?

actually, i didn't even really think about voting BSL until re-reading and that whole glyph thing.

well..i haven't played much games with you, and you probably alot a ton different then BSL so yeah.

An aposl lynch is something i can really see happening, he's not helping either, either we lynch aposl or the vigil kills him, either way.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@ JTB

No i will not post what I think about other people right now because I am town

unvote super-vote Aposl

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I literally thought that quote was faked because of how scummy it was, but sure enough, its from his #912.

Aposl would be a good lynch for today too.

 

[Kataefi]

VOTE COUNT!

[3] Asdioh - J / KevinM / Pink Lemonade
[3] Aposl - JTB / Smargaret / Soupamario
[3] J - Glyphmoney / GandhiLaserGun / Seikend
[1] KevinM - Asdioh
[1] Nabe - Toasting Dat Walrus
[1] Smargaret - Aposl
[1] Toasting Dat Walrus - Nabe

[0] Pink Lemonade
[0] GandhiLaserGun
[0] Soupamario
[0] Seikend
[0] JTB
[0] Glyphmoney

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!
Deadline set for Friday, April 8th, Midnight GMT.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@Mod i super-voted Aposl.

 

[Kataefi]

Corrected!

Toastin Dat Walrus receives its first prod.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

3 for Asdioh
3 for J
3 for Aposl

we choose out of these three.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

X1, what did I miss that was dedicated to me? o_O;

I did skim over that sentence though lol.

 

[KevinM]

The problem with Apsol and the reason I don't want to lynch her and would rather her just be night killed or lynched later is that she has NO CONNECTIONS except to smarg.

Would rather go with someone that gives me way more information.. really scummy that people aren't reaching that conclusion.

 

[GandhiLaserGun]

Pink, ironically its stated and linked in my #925, but whatever. I stated that I didn't want to stop ran posting, then like 40 posts later you have a rant at me for thinking that I wanted him to stop.


Kevin would you settle on J? You've said you're fine with him going plus that gives lots of info and connections, notably with Asdioh and Pink Lemonade

 

[JTB]

Don't want a lynch on Aposl, I want him to become more active in the game and he's made it clear that unless other people vote him, he won't.

 

[KevinM]

I think Asdioh has a lot of stronger connections but we'll see how people are feeling towards the end of the day.

Would like to limit the lynch to J or Asdioh where are people at on those.

 

[Asdioh]

Ran and July are doing ISO's as well. We will put all 3 into one post if that's okay with everyone. Otherwise, we'll seperately post them after getting them reviewed and re-worded with eachother.

Three separate posts would be preferred.

In fact if we just look at #789I'm not gonna lie looks like terrible scum distancing to me - couple that with the fact he's paying particular attention to the case on Asdioh for some reason. Thoughts Nabe?


@Kevin: How does this order of lynches sound to you? J -> Asdioh -> Smar/Pink Lemonade. Is there anyone you'd like to throw in there?

Assume for the moment that I'm town. What does what PL's been doing look like now?

So you're finally presenting some kind of stance on me. Why exactly do you think I'm scummy? Was it Js iso? Was it what I did against KevinM?
If it's the latter, my favorite part is how I could have easily ignored Kevin and only had 2 votes on me until now, and little pressure. Instead, I chose that time to put out the unpopular opinion that I don't like what he's done thus far in the game. If anyone besides Kevin had been playing like this, he would have at least had a bandwagon by now. If I had done my iso on (almost) anyone besides Kevin, I wouldn't have looked "so scummy."

The problem with Apsol and the reason I don't want to lynch her and would rather her just be night killed or lynched later is that she has NO CONNECTIONS except to smarg.

Would rather go with someone that gives me way more information.. really scummy that people aren't reaching that conclusion.

In two sentences, he makes it so I can't vote Aposl, who I've thought was scummy the whole game, without looking even scummier myself.

I guess my next choice would be J, since my vote on Kevin isn't doing anything (and I figured it wouldn't for now, but at least I put my thoughts out there)


unvote
Vote: J

 

[GandhiLaserGun]

Asdioh when did I call you scum again?

And what I said about PL could be a you-PL connection OR a J-PL connection. Or both/

 

[Asdioh]

That's what I've been wondering. You haven't really said anything about me, besides potential inactive scum at the beginning, and now you want me lynched.. though I did notice it was after J. Your post directed towards Kevin... are you trying to put me farther back on the list of lynches because you think J is scummier?

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Convinced I've been barking up the wrong trail and that Soup is town. Comfortable with either J or Asdioh.

Vote: Asdioh

 

[KevinM]

Asdioh Asdioh lets get that steamwagon on the Asdioh look at this last post.

ACTS LIKE I'M SCUMMY FOR SAYING APOSL HAS LITTLE TO NO CONNECTIONS.

Do me a favor Asdioh point out where her really strong connections are minus Smarg.

What do we benefit from her lynch?

Your case on me went no where because it was a bad ISO and in general ISO's are bad.

 

[KevinM]

Also to clarify on that last part

I HATE ISO's. I THINK ALL THEY DO IS MAKE A REACHING CASE THAT IS DESPARATE TO FIND SCUM AS TO NOT WASTE TIME.

So when i say in general ISO's are bad I stick by it 100 percent.

 

[Pink Lemonade]

"Joey posts saying that Asdioh has missed out some of the points against him. Joey misses a huge paragraph directed at him in bold, but notices a few missing paragraphs from a wall of text? "

This statement, X1.

Are you talking about the same post? o_O; I don't get what you're saying if you were. The fact that I missed one sentence doesn't equal him missing the first part of a HUGE post dedicated to him

Plus he assumed that what I pointed out was what I was talking about >_>. Meaning that he knew that he skipped that section, and didn't talk about it until I pointed out. That really looks scummy to me in my opinion.

 

[Asdioh]

Convinced I've been barking up the wrong trail and that Soup is town. Comfortable with either J or Asdioh.

Vote: Asdioh

Evening it up

What are your exact reasonings for the two of us?

@Smar: Explain the following

1.) How AtE is scummy

J FOR HIS HURR DA DURR ATE.

@GLG: should be obvious, but why did you point this out @Smarg but not @Kevin?

Asdioh Asdioh lets get that steamwagon on the Asdioh look at this last post.

ACTS LIKE I'M SCUMMY FOR SAYING APOSL HAS LITTLE TO NO CONNECTIONS.

Do me a favor Asdioh point out where her really strong connections are minus Smarg.

What do we benefit from her lynch?

Your case on me went no where because it was a bad ISO and in general ISO's are bad.

2: When did I say you were scummy for saying that? All I said was that you're making it clear that if I voted for Aposl, I'd look even scummier, because you said so.

3: (Aposl is a she?) I don't know. You're making it sound like the best way to play scum is to coast as Aposl has done, and not make connections. That way, you won't be lynched "because there will be no connections!" The lesson you're teaching me is disregard scumminess, acquire lynch with lots of connections. Guess I should have stayed quiet instead of making a case against you, or anyone, that way we wouldn't be wasting time wagoning me, yeah?

Plus he assumed that what I pointed out was what I was talking about >_>. Meaning that he knew that he skipped that section, and didn't talk about it until I pointed out. That really looks scummy to me in my opinion.

Sigh. No, I knew what section you were talking about because you said "IT'S NEAR THE TOP" so I looked back at Js post compared to my response.

 

[July]

3: (Aposl is a she?) I don't know.

Okay so I'm rereading but I noticed that too, is Aposl a girl and did Aposl say so in thread?

Will have more content later but was wondering about that too.

 

[KevinM]

No idea of aposls gender just have been saying she her sorry.

Also no Asdioh I think a vig should shoot aposl don't misconstrue my statement.

 

[Seikend]

Agree with KevinM, Aposl isn't the lynch ToDay.

My vote is staying on J at the moment. A couple of questions I need answering from him first before I decide whether to hop to Asdioh or not.

Since J hasn't done it yet, can anyone name some games J was town in recently?

 

[#HBC | J]

Just decided to take the day off from a few things.

I will get to responding to everything I think I missed.

Seikend, would you like the game now or later?

 

[Seikend]

Just decided to take the day off from a few things.

I will get to responding to everything I think I missed.

Seikend, would you like the game now or later?

Now please. It's gonna be a fair bit of reading, I'd like to get it done quickly.

 

[#HBC | J]

Rusty Guillotine Mafia

^Last town game

Mafia All Stars

^Second to last town game i think? It's been a while.

 

[#HBC | J]

Well wait the second one's a lie because well there is this one game back in the Disco Room which was another time I was recently town. But other then that I'm really drawing a blank.

Scum as of late:

B&F Mafia
DRoom UPick2
TWEWY Mafia
Inception Mafia
Mafia Royal Sleepover
DKR Mafia

So yea that's all in a row for mafia games.

Add SC to town games most recently as of late.

 

[Asdioh]

You replaced into a town slot in Dissidia but didn't really do much. Dunno if replacing counts.
going to work now, J are you going to get back to responding to me, which you said you did but accidentally deleted?

 

[#HBC | J]

Mhmm I'm in the midst of re-doing that now, though cuz of the annoyance of having to retype everything it's probably gonna be shorter then the original.

 

[Seikend]

Rusty Guillotine

#20 Interesting
#169 "I know I have called some people dumb, however if you wanna play mafia in today's world, that is how you have to play."
#178 Interesting
#226 Interesting x2

:/ Use of interesting a lot as town. Justification for belittling play at times.

Things are looking better for you J.

 

[#HBC | J]

Alright I guess?