Bingo Mafia: OVAH! Who won?

[Asdioh]

I said sometimes as in... well, you know.
Like, sometimes Uconn plays in the Final Four on April 2nd, 2011. Only happened once but I said sometimes anyway for the hell of it.

I just got down to the Asdioh Section and I'm about to read it, honored to have such a huge section to myself though

 

[#HBC | J]

I said sometimes as in... well, you know.
Like, sometimes Uconn plays in the Final Four on April 2nd, 2011. Only happened once but I said sometimes anyway for the hell of it.

I just got down to the Asdioh Section and I'm about to read it, honored to have such a huge section to myself though

Aw I'm glad you feel honored.

Wait I'm supposed to be mean to scum.

Diediediediediedie!

Better?

 

[Asdioh]

Aw I'm glad you feel honored.

Wait I'm supposed to be mean to scum.

Diediediediediedie!

Better?

Fluff way to say "die scum"

:| ?

 

[#HBC | J]

Why do people get on me for joking but when they do it, it's alright.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

J, thoughts on my 'big' post?

do you feel mafia would try to avoid eachother, or try to look like they hate eachother to cause a stir?

this goes for one of your scumpicks.

 

[Seikend]

Read it apart from the section on Asdioh, I'll read through that after.


My vote wasn't from nowhere.

*shrugs*

I don't think there's any information to get out of the exchange honestly. It's like if you both argued about what the best colour is. I can pick at it all I want but I'm not going to find anything useful from it.

Remember this? I thought it was a useless exchange. Thinking about it I realised the topic was started by you, with no prompt.


In the discussion between you and X1 arguing about letting Ran post or not I said the following:

On the other hand I can see the possibility for scum intent behind the original post, and the comment seems to have come from nowhere.

This was something I expanded on later which you seemed to have missed.


wrt. "Whoever suggested Ran should have July/Joey review all his posts before posting is just ******-dumb. I mean I've read so stupid things but damn. =3 You guys win."

What's the intent of the post?

It doesn't make sense as a town post.

It completely avoids the recent exchange (JTB/Seikend).
It's not scumhunting at all.

On the other hand.

It leads conversation towards discussion that doesn't scumhunt. (Discussing whether Ran should post or not isn't scumhunting).
It's calling out GLG as "******-dumb". Creates a bad impression of GLG, makes him less trustworthy.

Saying something is interesting is scummy because it's a fake way of contributing. You're commenting on something, but interesting doesn't indicate a read either way. It's entirely meaningless.

I don't like this AT ALL. Okay first Seikend ignores JTB's question and then JTB asks him to answer it, the very next post is Seikend telling him he is gonna blatantly not answer it and say that it is not important. Also the "We'll talk about you later." pushes JTB to the side and makes sure that the one catching the most heat (which happens to be me) gets even more attention and nothing side-tracks from that. It also subtly implies that he thinks JTB is scum and he will get to him after he gets to me.
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We have three possible lynch candidates and he's persistently trying to steer conversation towards clearing himself, who's not in any danger of being lynched? He was sidetracking. It's irrelevant currently.

It's not subtle at all, but yes I am implying it. There's no ulterior motive, I've been pretty vocal about thinking JTB is scum.


Reading the Asdioh case now.

 

[#HBC | J]

J, thoughts on my 'big' post?

do you feel mafia would try to avoid eachother, or try to look like they hate eachother to cause a stir?

this goes for one of your scumpicks.

I found your big post to be a town tell for me in which you were actively trying to find as much as you can to try and scum-hunt and I can see where you are coming from with some of your points. It mostly though is just a recollection of votes and your thoughts on some posts which match up with mine which I like.

Mafia can do so many things to each other to make it seem like they are not known and it's more up to WIFOM. Mafia could bus hard-core, Mafia could never talk to one another, Mafia could buddy the hell out of one another. It is just up to the team you are looking at and I just try and find out things that point to things that make sense and why X = that and why Y can't be scum with so and so.

I'm curious to see what you want to say.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

one of my main points is that Asdioh votes JTB, but JTB, does not vote back. :3

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

some other stuff too HOLD ON

(i really, really, hate reading big posts. X.X)

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

one thing i would really like to know J, were you just estatic to be town now at that pre-game thing?

also, you had some TvS with glyph, why didn't you pursue glyph, and go after Asdioh?

 

[JTB]

J, I agree with you on how lynch candidates are not finalized yet, I guess a better question to ask was what were your thoughts on the current wagons.

@Seikend, to parrot J, wagons can spruce up at anytime, remember the end of D1 in dissidia? A Tandora wagon started fairly close to the deadline, so nothing is set in stone right now.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

oh hey JTB, answer my above #728

 

[Seikend]

@Seikend, to parrot J, wagons can spruce up at anytime, remember the end of D1 in dissidia? A Tandora wagon started fairly close to the deadline, so nothing is set in stone right now

'kay. Well if a wagon on you starts then it's the time to defend yourself. You're not going to get lynched without getting a chance to speak. Don't do it pre-emptively.

 

[JTB]

Are you asking why I didn't OMGUS vote Asdioh while I was building a case on Seikend?

 

[#HBC | J]

My vote wasn't from nowhere.

Remember this? I thought it was a useless exchange. Thinking about it I realised the topic was started by you, with no prompt.

The point in bringing this up is important to why you voted me because?

In the discussion between you and X1 arguing about letting Ran post or not I said the following:

This was something I expanded on later which you seemed to have missed.

wrt. "Whoever suggested Ran should have July/Joey review all his posts before posting is just ******-dumb. I mean I've read so stupid things but damn. =3 You guys win."

I really don't get what you are trying to point out here. ._. How is this in relation to how I'm scum because of this?

Saying something is interesting is scummy because it's a fake way of contributing. You're commenting on something, but interesting doesn't indicate a read either way. It's entirely meaningless.

Lol no it's not but *sigh* this is another one of those opinated arguments.

We have three possible lynch candidates and he's persistently trying to steer conversation towards clearing himself, who's not in any danger of being lynched? He was sidetracking. It's irrelevant currently.

It's not subtle at all, but yes I am implying it. There's no ulterior motive, I've been pretty vocal about thinking JTB is scum.

Why are the lynch candidates set in stone? They aren't and they never will be. Can you build a case on JTB that can convince me that he is trying to clear himself. How is it irrelevant if you find it scummy? If you find it scummy then you need to persue it otherwise what's the point of pointing it out?

It was subtle in that one post though. ;_; I didn't say anything about ulterior motive I think and I know you have been vocal on why JTB is scum but the thing is, why are you not currently pushing it if you think JTB is your biggest scum pick?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

you didn't really pursue it much, didn't ask "why voting me" just kinda went "oh okay."

Seik, sum up j's post for me, i hate having to read all of that. ;_;

 

[JTB]

I did pursue it, what are you talking about?

 

[Seikend]

Where is your thought process behind this? Why did you vote me in this post, what convinced you, what did you learn in this re-read? This seems extremely oppurtunistic especially considering GLG just posted a case on me.

You asked me and so I gave you my reply.

 

[#HBC | J]

one thing i would really like to know J, were you just estatic to be town now at that pre-game thing?

also, you had some TvS with glyph, why didn't you pursue glyph, and go after Asdioh?

YES good god I was estatic to get town because I have been Mafia for about 6/7 times in a row and it is just so sickening because I can personally tell it is eating away at my playstyle and I have a hard time playing as town because I have to get back into the mindset.

Reason I don't feel like persuing Glyph is because I have been for quite some time and nothing is coming from it because he is like a freaking wall that doesn't do a thing at all besides say J is scum when asked why I am scum. Asdioh needs more attention and I feel helluva lot more comfortable with his lynch.

J, I agree with you on how lynch candidates are not finalized yet, I guess a better question to ask was what were your thoughts on the current wagons.

Can you give me some current wagons you would like because I could do one on all the ones I can think of being Seikend's/Smarg's/Mine/Glyph's/BSL's?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@JTB

Hrmmm..

*rereads again*

i get really lazy on ISO's, i scumhunt through reactions really, so that huge post (if not really huge) is rare from me.

 

[Seikend]

@Seikend, to parrot J, wagons can spruce up at anytime, remember the end of D1 in dissidia? A Tandora wagon started fairly close to the deadline, so nothing is set in stone right now.[/COLOR]

Hey JTB. Can you point out where J said this? I missed it.

 

[#HBC | J]

You asked me and so I gave you my reply.

I honestly don't get you.

 

[Seikend]

I honestly don't get you.

Nevermind.

 

[JTB]

Hey JTB. Can you point out where J said this? I missed it.

I don't think the lynch is even close to finalized. I haven't even been given the time to defend myself nor have I been able to present whom I think is scum. It may look like it's set that way but be a lil bit more open minded. Things in a mafia game could flip on the dime.

Near the middle of his big post.

 

[#HBC | J]

Nevermind.

No, don't simply NVM me and actually explain what you are trying to say which is most of the reason I have a problem with you this game because you are not explaining clearly what you are trying to say but instead just giving bits and pieces and it's hard to read for me. If you want me to listen to you sometimes you have to spell it out very clearly.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

JTB, i'm reallllyyy lazy, just sum up for your confrontation with Seikend/Asdioh.

 

[JTB]

@J, I would obviously like the wagon to start back up on Seikend, I don't agree with him putting aside our exchange just because lynches might be finalized already.

 

[#HBC | J]

@J, I would obviously like the wagon to start back up on Seikend, I don't agree with him putting aside our exchange just because lynches might be finalized already.

I agree with you on Seikend's just deliberate shove aside of you if he truly thinks you are scum.

However, would you join an Asdioh wagon? Also is your vote going to continue to stay on BSL's slot?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

also J - if there is one thing i do not like is all that AtE, and also, you respond to me in a way i'm not sure to look at

I can personally tell it is eating away at my playstyle and I have a hard time playing as town because I have to get back into the mindset.

I'm not sure what you mean by this, it's almost like "i play like scum right now but doesn't mean i am scum."

please go more into detail on this.

 

[JTB]

@Soupamario, I asked Asdioh why I was scummy, he replied with my RVS vote on J and wagoning Seikend for reads, which I pointed out was not scummy. And that was it.

I'm not summing up my entire confrontation with Seikend, go back and read it you lazy person!

 

[Seikend]

In your big post you asked me the following:

Where is your thought process behind this? Why did you vote me in this post, what convinced you, what did you learn in this re-read? This seems extremely oppurtunistic especially considering GLG just posted a case on me.

I responded.

You said

The point in bringing this up is important to why you voted me because?



I really don't get what you are trying to point out here. ._. How is this in relation to how I'm scum because of this?

I was bringing it up because you asked me why I voted you. You've forgotten the question you asked me and jumped to the conclusion that I'm pinning you as scum.

 

[JTB]

Oh, and I was fluffing a bit prior to my case on Seikend, so he does have that.

 

[#HBC | J]

also J - if there is one thing i do not like is all that AtE, and also, you respond to me in a way i'm not sure to look at

I'm not sure what you mean by this, it's almost like "i play like scum right now but doesn't mean i am scum."

please go more into detail on this.

Alot of people don't like the AtE but meh it's just the way I play apparantly and alot of the time I don't mean to. >.>

It means that I can tell that I am not playing well anymore especially considering what happened one week which was where I got lynched in 3 different games in a single week which is new to me because I used to never be lynched and used to be NK'd instead. Idk it's more of a personal train of thought I probably shouldn't have said =x

 

[JTB]

J, I'm down for an Asdioh wagon. In all honesty, I would think the optimal D1 would be a wagon on every player so that town has information on everyone before going into N1/D2.

 

[#HBC | J]

In your big post you asked me the following:

I responded.

You said

I was bringing it up because you asked me why I voted you. You've forgotten the question you asked me and jumped to the conclusion that I'm pinning you as scum.

Nonono you misunderstood me. I was asking why you brought it up because how is that a tell for why I am scum for you. I never said that I thought you were pinning me as scum but I asked how those posts help you gain your intel for why you voted me and why it makes me scum enough to determine your vote because before all that you were sitting as middle-man between GLG/Myself and we were both asking questions of you then GLG makes that case and you are the first person to hop straight on. Is this not true?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

But weren't you scum in DKR!? D:

 

[JTB]

@J, my vote wasn't going to continue on BSL, I just forgot where it was at.

unvote
vote Asdioh

 

[#HBC | J]

J, I'm down for an Asdioh wagon. In all honesty, I would think the optimal D1 would be a wagon on every player so that town has information on everyone before going into N1/D2.

I kindof agree with this train of thought however I was in a game where they took this theory really well (Mafia Royal Sleepover) and we had the Town Doc claim, Town Watcher claim, and Town Mason claim on the first day. Town had to lynch one of the PRs because they squandered their time, gave the mafia members an easy time to pick and choose what we wanted to do which helped us win the game in the end.

This is sortof the reason I don't mind being wagon'd because of this, I have seen more of Asdioh/Seikend and their quick hop ons of my wagon.

Even though I'm not even their top scum pick.

 

[#HBC | J]

But weren't you scum in DKR!? D:

Exactly lol, point in case. It was one of the games I got lynched in that single week.

 

[Seikend]

@J If JTB was my top scumpick I would have responded to him attempting to clear himself. I haven't responded because I'm not interested currently. You are currently my top pick.