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Bingo Mafia: OVAH! Who won?

#HBC | ѕoup

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because i don't see you as the toDay lynch anymore, i still consider you possible scum, but PL is either just gonna screw it up, and glyph doesn't help worth ****.
 

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im not. that's why there was that alternative or part. i wont be upset if i get lynched though. especially if glyph gets lynched afterwards.



i dont question my alignment. here, let me rephrase what i said.

if everyone in the town thinks there is a member of the mafia among glyph and i, i will gladly allow myself to be lynched to prove that i am not the mafia member, leaving glyph as the only person left in the group. which would mean he would have to be mafia. which would mean glyph has to be lynched.

now some members of town have expressed their opinion that there is a possibility that it is a TvT argument, between glyph and i, so my plan will be disregarded.



alright, then we wont do what i said.
@Underlined: You should have just pushed harder, with reasoning, for us to lynch Glyph. Lynching yourself when you know you're town, in order for us to promise that we'll lynch MAYBE scum the next day, is a waste. What exactly is your case against Glyph? I agree with Soup that Glyph's been acting kind of "stupid" but I just haven't felt scummy intent behind that..

It looks like this is a game where I'll be having a hard time reading people. I just looked over BSLs posts... still leaning on the scummy side for him, but it's frustrating, he's probably not. When he was having a conversation with Soupamario early in the game, Soup looked the scummier of the two because of how quickly he claimed it was a TvT conversation, with little to back that up. But more recently, BSL's been looking worse and Soup's looking slightly better.

Soup, why do you think J is town? In your big thoughts post, you listed him as town after only noting he self-cleared.
You also listed Aposl as scum after only saying these things about him:
#61 Smargaret brings up a good point on Aposl, or is it a good point?
to me, i feel that it's okay setting and living by your own rules, which i feel Aposl was doing at D1, and smarg was just reaching for a minute, but since that's really blown over i can't see pushing onto it.
I can see why Smarg would vote Apsol, he is just trying to hide himself between his filler posts to look like he is actually contributing.
You thought what Aposl was doing was ok, and that Smarg was reaching, but you later think Aposl is scummy and Smarg is town?



Keeping my vote on J because he's still the scummiest to me.
 

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Mod, you won't fix my tags? Frownie face.

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I just looked over TDWs posts. Since you think he's scum, who do you think his scummates are? I'm asking you to see if your picks coincide with my own at all.
 

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@Underlined: You should have just pushed harder, with reasoning, for us to lynch Glyph. Lynching yourself when you know you're town, in order for us to promise that we'll lynch MAYBE scum the next day, is a waste. What exactly is your case against Glyph? I agree with Soup that Glyph's been acting kind of "stupid" but I just haven't felt scummy intent behind that..
every single scummy thing he has done, he has just played it off as a 'joke' and everyone is buying it. im not.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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thus one of my reasons, he's not helping, and he is really scumslipping with all that "LOL I WAS JOKING."
 

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Glyph, are you fine with a J lynch toDay?
 

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well..not really, its more-so REVOLVED around #352 rather then based on it.

he just isn't acting like asdioh town to me.
Ehh, I re-read Asdioh. I agree that #352 looks bad, but I'm not seeing scum. He's not a concern ToDay.


Still iffy on BSL and Glyph.

BSL is generally fine, but there's just the occasional thing which is just... urghh.
Glyph come back and restore my faith in you .__. ;
 

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what occasional thing? maybe i have a reason for it
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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also
@asdioh

i can see why he posted, but i can also the scum side of the post, it's just very filler and i haven't seen him in awhile now.
 

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or do you mean occasionally i look scummy, and not one specific thing i do occasionally?
 

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BSL: Why is posting scumpicks bad? That sequence of posts is probably one of the most pro-town things Soupa has done here, and it's definitely the most pro-town thing he's done this game.
 

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J, I would like to see your stance on BSL and Glyph. It's pretty clear that Asdioh is not the play of the Day and that it is probably between you/BSL/Glyph.
 

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I'm trying to start RE4 mafia. =x

Then I'll get to my defense on X1-12 and who I'm thinking and stuff.

That phone call lasted till 3 in the morning. Dx


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I forget where it is to be all honest.
 

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BSL: Why is posting scumpicks bad? That sequence of posts is probably one of the most pro-town things Soupa has done here, and it's definitely the most pro-town thing he's done this game.
it just seems pretty random. i didnt say it was bad, i said it was weird.

even weirder that JTB asked for his scumpicks right after he posted them.
 

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He posted one scum pick, why is it weird that I asked for the rest?
 

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or do you mean occasionally i look scummy, and not one specific thing i do occasionally?
yeah, the former.

Didn't like you answering soup's question, or putting yourself forward for a lynch. I'm sure there's other things but I've forgot.

I know you've explained them but I didn't really like the explanations.

Buuut no need to concern yourself about that yet. You're not that high on my scum list at the moment.
 

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@J, no worries, I'm sure you'll still post something before Glyph >_>
 

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Glyph did this last game too, inb4 he replaces out.
 

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He posted one scum pick, why is it weird that I asked for the rest?
oh, you had seen his post? i assume you went to ask independently of him saying it, so in my mind, he ninja'd your question with his scumpicks. then went on and elaborated after you asked. nevermind then.

yeah, the former.

Didn't like you answering soup's question, or putting yourself forward for a lynch. I'm sure there's other things but I've forgot.

I know you've explained them but I didn't really like the explanations.

Buuut no need to concern yourself about that yet. You're not that high on my scum list at the moment.
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Out job hunting, on phone.

Will be posting when i get home.
 

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I just looked over TDWs posts. Since you think he's scum, who do you think his scummates are? I'm asking you to see if your picks coincide with my own at all.
BSL: Why is posting scumpicks bad? That sequence of posts is probably one of the most pro-town things Soupa has done here, and it's definitely the most pro-town thing he's done this game.
Will you answer me? :O
 

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Its AtE/Fluff/WIFOM/Gambit all rolled into one


Somewhat agreed. =o
J could you please be a bit more scummy. Get dead, kid.

BSL you are null right now, i trust GLG so that's why you are.

Glyph is just acting stupid and PL just bother me.
Why do you consider my approach to this game "Stupid?" I see a ton of connections between players (both positive and negative) that weren't there before I started posting like that, and I'm willing to say they wouldn't have developed like that had I not pushed this thread's activity and people's patience the way I did.

because i don't see you as the toDay lynch anymore, i still consider you possible scum, but PL is either just gonna screw it up, and glyph doesn't help worth ****.
I'd also be comfortable saying I've accomplished more than you, but hey, thanks for telling me I don't help with **** bro.

every single scummy thing he has done, he has just played it off as a 'joke' and everyone is buying it. im not.
Your answer to why I'm scummy is "all the bad things he's done"? How about maybe showing us some of these scummy things?

thus one of my reasons, he's not helping, and he is really scumslipping with all that "LOL I WAS JOKING."
No I am not, and if you'd maybe read my posts you'd see the ones where I'd clarify points of confusion for people.

Glyph, are you fine with a J lynch toDay?
Have been from the start!

Glyph did this last game too, inb4 he replaces out.
Not sure why you felt the need to bring that up, especially since I had a legitimate reason to replace out (oh, and I was town in that game too.)



Okay that catches me up pretty well. Onto new and brighter things.

J should be lynched today.
BSL should be lynched toMorrow. His "joke" was unfounded (nor was it similar in nature to the ones I made), and his refusal to provide a a case to support his attacks beyond "the bad things" radiates scum waves so harshly I may be losing years of my lifespan. Smar would also be a viable candidate for toMorrow's lynch, though the only thing I've taken issue with recently is her revival of the questions from over 10 pages ago for Aposl.

Smar, why did you wait so long to ask for an answer to those if you didn't receive one immediately after you posted them?

BSL, if you're town, build a case against me.
 

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One more question then, after your exchange with J, if you could have ended the Day right then with a J lynch, would you have done so?
 

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No. Lynching scum is wonderful but if you do it before you've established connections between players then you're starting from scratch again the next day.
 

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Asdioh - I don't like looking for associative tells absent a flip. I'll make use of them if I see them, but I won't actively go looking on Day 1. I haven't seen any that jump out at me yet.

Glyph - I did pursue it, then Aposl signed off. I revived it when he signed back on at the same time as me. Go through my ISO, there are numerous places where I asked him to respond.
 

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Do you think he was intentionally ignoring your question or was it just overlooked multiple times then?
 

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@mod: i dont really feel like playing this game anymore. feel free to replace me. sorry, kat, and sorry replacement.

im not scum, btw, so please go easy on the new guy.
 

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@mod: i dont really feel like playing this game anymore. feel free to replace me. sorry, kat, and sorry replacement.

im not scum, btw, so please go easy on the new guy.

No worries!

- Contacting Nabe as a replacement.
 

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smargaret, what do you think of BSL's decision to replace out? Frustrated townie or AtE scum?
 

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J, why must you appear extremely scummy in every single game you play? :(
 

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Be warned, this post is extremely long and you should have some cookies to go along with it.

I believe you are scum for several reasons you deflected attention from yourself (#542 "This isn't gonna go anywhere" when I start attacking you).
That wasn't deflecting attention from myself because if I was deflecting attention from myself I would not have taken such a hard stance on the Ranmaru situation. I was trying to get it back on track to scum-hunting because what we were discussing was not scum-hunting and it was a simple misunderstanding of opinions which got blown out of proportion.

GLG]That coupled with some of your non-answers to questions - [URL="http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12453188&postcount=406 said:
#406[/URL] you are asked about the smar parrot and manage to say that She was parroting, and that she stop parroting.
Hm? I answered KevinM's question though ._. I didn't say she stopped parroting though I did say she was parroting because she had been parroting whatever I had said at the time.

GLG said:
Probably above all you are scummy because of the way you defend yourself, you don't refute or explain the points made against you, you jump easily on the points which are easy to refute (and make a big show of being right/defending yourself in those situations (#567)- the same quote repeated three times and then two separate lines on whether a post what agressive or not.)) Townies have reasons for their actions and thus don't need to make excuses or defend themselves in the way J is doing.
I didn't make a big show on defending myself but I did prove where you were wrong on the easy points to refute. You do admit that I did prove you wrong in these tenses in the tone you use I think though idk. Anywho I do hope now I have explained why I disagree with the points made against me. The post you linked to is the one where I am trying to show you where it is a lighthearted jab because it WAS just that but you mistconstrued said jab into a malicious light when it wasn't supposed to be. Last line sits odd with me mainly because it seems you stopped adressing me and instead try and appeal to the audience that is watching our little scuffle.

GLG said:
J once again, I'm not saying that you don't care about others, merely that its not your primary aim, your aim is to win. I've shown evidence of this.
Actually it is a primary aim of mine. I have done things that you should recall that I even give up wins based on my morals which caused a huge catastrophe between us in which we don't really talk anymore and there is this tension whenever we do even in mafia games. You haven't shown evidence of it, you've shown evidence of your train of thought that led you to believe so but I don't agree to this and I know myself better than others do. =/ I mean not to be offensive on that.

GLG said:
This post is so scummy, its clear what my poinst are because I've repeated them a good couple of times, yet J is taking an opportunity to make his own version of my case. At no point did I mention, or even allude to the fact that its down him him arguing, or arguing hard. But J nonetheless mentions this, presumably so he can prove it wrong later and get the illusion of being town. Townies ask yourself, why would a town player make such random statements as this? He knows why I'm attacking him because I've made it clear, that post is only going to lead to confusion, or misrepresentation of my points. Why would town want that? Town can explain their actions? J is just saying random statements in an attempt to undermine my attack against him.
Actually if you could tell from the tone of it, it was completely joking and I think you knew it but you needed more things to call me scum on. I have heard from many people as of late who have said that I am very hard arguer when I am scum and your name was brought up in that convo w.r.t. people who say that's a scum-tell of mine. It was more of an attack on your attack of me because it is mostly meta and nothing really stand outish. Anyways to get back to the rest of this paragraph you don't even give me a chance to defend that statement and say that I would come back and give the illusion of being town. I laughed at the bold statement just simply because it is an AtE. "Townies! Why would he do this?" It also makes your point stronger in an arguement to talk to a group as a whole and it did work. You just made your points clear as of now because I didn't grasp what you were getting at because the way you voted me seemed to make it that you thought I was scum for disagreeing with your logic on the Ranmaru dispute. You will say that this is not the case but I digress. You get a bit radical and emotional by saying that I am making random statements to undermine your attack against you to give more of a reason for people to vote me. Thing is all these tactics work. I am continuously scratching my head as to whether this is scumX1 trying to get an easy ML or the fact that it's townX1 thinking he has "caught" me as scum again after coming in from his DKR lynch of me D1. I'm getting more town from it but I just don't know honestly.

Hey GLG, remember the "interesting" tell?

I re-read, and I'm convinced.

JTB and J as scum.

Vote:J
Where is your thought process behind this? Why did you vote me in this post, what convinced you, what did you learn in this re-read? This seems extremely oppurtunistic especially considering GLG just posted a case on me.

uhhh.

I've already explained my scum read on you.

Aaaand the quote is J's 'observation'. It's a scumtell on J, not the people that are being looked at.

Also: "On the other hand I can see the possibility for scum intent behind the original post, and the comment seems to have come from nowhere."
How is it a scum tell on me? Explain please.
when something stinks, it's gotta be the butz. or something like that. right?


I guess so.

lawl @seik

But if we're responding seriously, its not actually interesting at all. I made a case on you, you ignored it and now people are voting on you. What you just posted essentially translates to saying "People on my wagon are scummy" and then you round off with "the case against me was weak" despite having never refuted it or properly argued against it
X1, please dont forget to post in your hydra. earlier you were posting in X1-12 and it was confusing for a second.
Why did you point this out when the post that X1 had just done which would have made you think this was on his hydra. It just seems uneccessary and he knows that he has to post on his hydra otherwise I think Kataefi would bug him about it.

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Seikend, please address the first part of my post.
Nah. Not gonna get caught up in dumb stuff.

Why are you so focused on clearing yourself right now? You aren't a realistic lynch candidate. You're kind of ignoring the two possible lynch candidates we have right now.

We'll talk about you later. Not right now.
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I don't like this AT ALL. Okay first Seikend ignores JTB's question and then JTB asks him to answer it, the very next post is Seikend telling him he is gonna blatantly not answer it and say that it is not important. Also the "We'll talk about you later." pushes JTB to the side and makes sure that the one catching the most heat (which happens to be me) gets even more attention and nothing side-tracks from that. It also subtly implies that he thinks JTB is scum and he will get to him after he gets to me.

OMG THAT AtE FROM BSL

J, is that what you are teaching your scumbuds?


No.

FYI weak stances isn't that strong of a scumtell for newbies
Why is it not?

J, I would like to see your stance on BSL and Glyph. It's pretty clear that Asdioh is not the play of the Day and that it is probably between you/BSL/Glyph.
I don't think the lynch is even close to finalized. I haven't even been given the time to defend myself nor have I been able to present whom I think is scum. It may look like it's set that way but be a lil bit more open minded. Things in a mafia game could flip on the dime.

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Asdioh section

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I'm gonna be doing a basic ISO of him though this is my first time doing one of these so please bear with it. (yes even after 8 months I never thought to do an ISO before ^^")

>_>

I'm gonna read the thread now. Spent most of the day doing not-mafia things, and it looks like some people are already popular lynch targets. Glyph, maybe it's the avatar?

OH GOD LIVETOPIC SUCKS

I'm never one to "coast" but damn looks like everyone's pretty much forgotten about me so I can see why some people like to do it.
Gonna read now, might not post yet because I might be playing a video game
This is his first post into the game. During this first post he sortof defends who is catching the most heat so far which is Glyph. He admits to coasting and says everyone has forgotten about him and then says he will read.

Well, I haven't even gotten there yet, lol. I just looked at the most recent page and saw someone mention that Glyph was a likely lynch for today. I have no opinion of him or anyone else yet.


This post is weird because he just did a sort of defense on Glyph then when called upon it he shuts up and goes, "Uhm I just looked at the page and in reality I have no opinion of the guy." Don't really like.

Alright, read through 10 freaking pages late at night and I'm tired as hell. Like in my first post I want to ask again: who the **** is in what hydra? I read through half the game without even realizing X1 was in a hydra, and it might be because it's 4 AM, but I'm not even sure which hydra he's in. Same with Kuzi.
I have no issue with hydras, but it's a serious problem when people are posting outside of their hydra and I don't know who belongs to which.


Since I'm coming in late, I'll briefly post my thoughts on the players thus far. Not gonna elaborate too much, maybe tomorrow.

Pink Lemonade - Ran/Joey/July umm.. null for me right now :[ mainly because I can't remember anything notable they've said off the top of my head, or in my notes.
GandhiLaserGun - Who/who?
BSL - from what I remember, hasn't done much besides talking to Sqweedle early game. He looks alright though.
Asdioh - never this inactive, must have been busy drinking margaritas
KevinM - so town it hurts
Toasting Dat Walrus - \(o_o)/
Seikend - I think X1's wagon on him early game was just to get things started. He looks alright to me.
Smargaret - I found myself agreeing with her early posts, like the one where she disliked Aposl's "policy lynch" shenanigans. She doesn't look too bad to me overall.
J - scum, because he's J and because of the reasons Glyph said.
JTB - scum
Aposl - probably scum
Sqweedle - who the hell can ever know with him. Vig fodder.
Glyphmoney - his posting style has been annoying, but I'm willing to say town for now. Probably an unpopular thing for me to say right now.

Vote: JTB

ok seriously it's 4:30 and I can't do any more xD
I'll post more tomorrow, before four.
This is his post from which he gathered while reading. I posted a response to this already in which I said I didn't like it. I had also asked him to elaborate on his scum-reads because he seems to put more effort into saying why someone is null or town for some pretty silly reasons and then leaves his scum picks just up in the air. He calls J/JTB/Aposl the scum-team. Though let's look at this though:

Glyph was persuing J at this time
Seikend was persuing JTB at this time
Smarg was persuing Aposl at this time

Asdioh happened to comment on all of them exactly at this time and agree with everyone being called scum? He also calls all Glyph/Seikend/Smarg towny looking in his post to help support them and their wagons against his scum picks which just seem faked to me. I find it weird as well is what he said about Soupa, before anything had gotten on he just said *Shrug* let's have him be vig fodder. The reason I found this weird is because why would you just say someone to be shot just to be shot.

The first part of the post is just complaining about hydras.

To this day from this post, Asdioh has not extrapolated on his thoughts on his scum-reads even when I directly asked him and FoS'd him on it. No he cannot say that he just didn't have anything else to say at the time because the game was already on page 10 of 40ppp.

The only things you did that I thought were worth writing down in my notes in my readthrough were vote J, and then join the Seikend wagon. Looking through your posts, it's just fluff fluff fluff.

This might be why Aposl is still scum in my mind, his immediate posts gave me a bad feeling that hasn't gone away because I read the whole day's activity in one sitting.
Wait, so not having hard stances is a way to keep the pressure off yourself and avoid a lynch??

o_O Scary, I just skimmed down part of page 11 (about to read it) and saw that, in regard to JTB, I share the same opinion as Soupa.
This is the post that he posted right after I asked him to elaborate his views on and it is even located not more then 10 posts above his.

First part calls JTB out on posting fluff which he wasn't. Also I find it hypocritic since that Asdioh who hadn't been posting anything substancial yet or nothing solid was calling someone out for posting fluff.

The last paragraph is unique because he asks about having hard stances gets pressure off of you because so far he has not and then he begins to start having harder stances. Then admits to skimming and agrees with Soupa on JTB.

Cool, so if I assume that GLG is town then it means my townread on Smarg was wrong. Can you point out where she's parroted, though? I just looked over her and I didn't see much that would be defined as parroting, except maybe in her interactions with Glyph, and parroting there would be hard to avoid since he was pretty much refusing to answer questions. I also still think her posts are pretty legitimate, and agree with her opinion on Aposl.

@GLG: Glyph isn't a ******, thus why I don't have a scumread on him yet, despite his stubborn and annoying play. And you're talking about inactives when the game is less than 24 hours... and you didn't include Aposl in there?

@JTB: why am I scummates with Seik, but not Smarg, Glyph, or BSL? I mentioned all of them as "fairly towny" in my catchup post. Looking forward to your logic.
Response to GLG.

In the first paragraph he sticks to defending Smarg by saying he agrees with her on Aposl still, compliments her posts by saying they seem legitmate, and saying he doesn't see that Smarg could be a parrot.

GLG question: He responds by defending Glyph and says he doesn't have a scum-read despite his overall play. Then he questions GLG's decision not to put Aposl in the group of inactives, this follows him going along with Smarg's scumpick of Apsol and just follows suit to what he has been doing.

Heh, I'm glad you caught that as well. He didn't find you scummy until me, Soup, and J already mentioned your lack of content.

Still wondering what you think about me. Looking forward to a response to your post from Seik.
Last part is what really gets me because of what he does after saying this. He says he looks forward to his response from Seikend but in the next post he doesn't comment on it at all. A scummy point in this is asking for JTB's opinion on himself. ScumRationale behind asking this is because he is worried how he looks to someone town so he can change and polish his thoughts.

Gained from this; AsdiohScum=/=JTBscum. I doubt they can be scum-mates because of this.

Eh? I said nothing of the sort. I just don't know what to think of you yet.
The question I want to ask is who are you? You're a hydra of someone and someone. GLG is a hydra of X1 and... ? That is what I want to know.

No, but considering you had done nothing else, that was all I had to form an opinion on you.

Ok I guess. Seik didn't stand out more than the others I listed as town, I was just listing the impressions people in my readthrough left on me.
Asdioh becomes really defensive when questioned by TDW and says that he is just null on the situation. Then he asks a somewhat ditzy question saying he doesn't even know who TDW is.

Second line is admitting he didn't have a real reason to call JTB scum but sticks by it anyways.

Third line is crucial because this is where he kindof answers my question but still doesn't. (if that makes sense then I applaud you for understanding me) He says that he was just writing impressions of people. Not what his thoughts were and what were behind them but little impressions. He also begins to show a bit of slight when asked from JTB about Seikend and says "Ok I guess" and just *shrugs* off the accusation of Asdioh/Seikend scum-team.

Another deduction; AsdiohScum =/= SeikendScum. He would have been a bit more worried by that if so and it shows a bit more not caring if Seikend is lynched after him if the connection is drawn because then it would be a ML from a scum PoV.

Ran, post as much as you want. I've never played with you before but obviously a bunch of people have something against you... but they can go qqmoar.


Defending Ranmaru. Find it bleck when someone else does it and they don't get heat but when I say I would like Ranmaru to continue posting I get all this flak.

BSL, that didn't look like a joke at all. I understood you when you first said "you're not a VT" but that was a poor choice of words. I doubt any scum would be dumb enough to say "YOU MUST HAVE A POWER ROLE HURR HURR" out loud in the thread but who knows. But then saying it again? :||||||//\\\\\\\///\\/
Oh lookie look Asdioh is buddying Glyph again by supporting him on the non-joke thing when Glyph/TDW were commenting on it.

Something to point out would be the Asdioh-BSL connection because why would Asdioh put pressure on the already growing steam caught on his scum buddy by just simply repeating the facts? KevinM/Glyph/TDW were on him. He also nitpicks and continues to cast judgement on him....it just seems a bit faked forced. Asdioh/BSL seems interesting to look into. AsdiohScum flip would def shed some light onto it.

Listen Glyph, maybe if you browsed Smash World Forums more you'd understand that today is April Fool's Day

I main Kirby in Super Smash Brothers, by the way.

Problem??
Fluff/Joke post.

Mafia is serious business glyph. I want a serious response.
Somewhat joking post directing at Glyph.

Telling Ranmaru to not post is simply bullying. idgaf what your "justification" for it is, stop it.

Using cute faces frequently is a scumtell.

It SERIOUSLY IS.

So you think Glyph is town and BSL is scum? That's kind of what I was thinking earlier, despite my initial towny read on BSL. His frustrated responses to such a tiny amount of pressure were easily among the scummiest things I've seen yet this game.

Gordito, post on your hydra gfajdogidj

Oh, JTB posted. You're right sir, you are the less-scummy of the three-letter names. I'd vote BSL currently but he's already close to being lynched.

I think Seikend looks town though, JTB. Bwahahah, differing opinions!

unvote
Vote: J
I agree with Asdioh's first point but then I must ask when Asdioh calls people bullies for bullying Ranmaru then why does no one call him on it? I just find it -_- is all. I guess it's mostly because I was the most vocal about my opinion where Asdioh has been coasting and not sticking out to that many people.

Anyways back to what is important here. He is joke saying I am scum throughout the post and not really going into depth with very short curt one liners that don't really make sense because he doesn't say why.

Agrees with Gord and continues to say Glyph = town in his eyes and that BSL = scum. He doesn't say why really he is scum to him and says BSL used to be towny in his eyes but due to the major event that everyone is calling BSL he is saying that BSL's action was the scummiest thing he has seen this game. I find it contradicting that he doesn't follow through this with a vote with BSL but instead he jumps on the J bandwagon. His excuse for this is that BSL is close to a lynch but at the same time, J was getting close to a lynch as well though at this point he said BSL was the scummier of the two and was only voting J because he was close to a lynch. Then complains about Gord not being on his hydra.

Says JTB looks better then he thought which is odd because he doesn't say why JTB is looking better then J/BSL even though he had him as a scum-read.

Fluff way to say no.

Noted that J thinks it's interesting. :cool:

JTB, do you think J is scum?
Asdioh being cute. IIRC in an ongoing game someone said that saying "Noted" to something tries to add fake-scum pressure? Honestly what a dumb concept because it was taken from what I said even though I like saying Noted on things regardless of alignment and this is a teeny stab at me from Asdioh and also with the interesting comment. Basically a joke that isn't needed and just seems like he is pressuring.

He also asks JTB wether I am scum or not.

This is good!

No, J voted me before I voted him.

Guess there's a first time for everything.

BSL, if you flip town, that doesn't prove Glyph as scum at all, and is a waste. Ughhh
Herp Derp to the first line. Why was it needed to say that?

Clarifies what had happened.

Makes a joke.

Complains and says it doesn't prove anything which in turn is correct. He however stays consistent with the Glyph defense.

BSL, do you have any scumpicks besides Glyph?

@Soup: yeah, my first post was pretty contentless, I just wanted to post my general thoughts as people while I was still awake super late at night. I'm pretty sure I've elaborated on my scumpicks since then, though.
The first part shows that Asdioh is skimming hard because BSL had made an entire paragraph saying that his scum-picks consists of J/Glyph/Smarg as the team. BSL even to give him his scum-picks quotes himself.

That bold part is a lie because he hasn't as shown in his views within all the posts and I've kept quiet about Asdioh ignoring my question for him to elaborate on my reads because usually Asdioh is more on top of everything but it seems he has been actively skimming/refusing to answer it and just skate on by. Why? That's the question I keep asking myself.

of people* >_>
EBWOP post

@Underlined: You should have just pushed harder, with reasoning, for us to lynch Glyph. Lynching yourself when you know you're town, in order for us to promise that we'll lynch MAYBE scum the next day, is a waste. What exactly is your case against Glyph? I agree with Soup that Glyph's been acting kind of "stupid" but I just haven't felt scummy intent behind that..

It looks like this is a game where I'll be having a hard time reading people. I just looked over BSLs posts... still leaning on the scummy side for him, but it's frustrating, he's probably not. When he was having a conversation with Soupamario early in the game, Soup looked the scummier of the two because of how quickly he claimed it was a TvT conversation, with little to back that up. But more recently, BSL's been looking worse and Soup's looking slightly better.

Soup, why do you think J is town? In your big thoughts post, you listed him as town after only noting he self-cleared.
You also listed Aposl as scum after only saying these things about him: You thought what Aposl was doing was ok, and that Smarg was reaching, but you later think Aposl is scummy and Smarg is town?

Keeping my vote on J because he's still the scummiest to me.
He continues to defend Glyph like he has been the entire game, I feel like a broken record at this point x_x", when BSL says he finds Glyph as scum however becomes a middle man almost when he says he agrees with Soupa when he says Glyph is acting stupid.

Has an argument with himself that seems faked and trying to AtE saying that he is having a hard time reading everyone and says that BSL is looking worse but it's weird and Soupa is looking better to him. Did he mention why? Noooooope.



Asdioh, whatcha doing trying to AtE? That's my job lmao.

I just looked over TDWs posts. Since you think he's scum, who do you think his scummates are? I'm asking you to see if your picks coincide with my own at all.
Didn't I get on TDW for the EXACT same sort of thing? "Here give me your scum-picks so I can fix mine to match sound better." Which is the exact thing Asdioh has been doing this entire game!

Will you answer me? :O


I find this really funny considering that he has been ignoring me.

With this ISO I remembered why my vote was on Asdioh is because I think he was scum and I thought the vote would be a little pressure to him to get his act in gear but it did nothing because I didn't substantiate why I thought he was scum. Now that it is all here I am going to be putting my vote back on him because that is where it belongs. Asdioh has been doing some very odd things this game where the perfect wording to describe him would be skating by. He hasn't really been doing any scum-hunting, comes in to defend some suspects when they get suspected. I.E. Glyph/Smarg/Seikend, and bandwagoning when it is needed. Now he has ditched his BSL is scum motive and hopped full-steam on the J is scum wagon "just cuz he is so scummy" which is just really "......." I think Asdioh is scum and upon of a scumFlip clears in my mind both JTB/Seikend. However on a AsdiohTown flip even though I am confident on this we have to look into JTB/Seikend and my foot is down on if it is Scum vs. Town then JTB is the town and Seikend is the scum. On an Asdioh scum flip I am thinking BSL's slot as a likely scum-buddy even though at this time based on actions he appears townish but he stays in null for me.. His dilemna has been over-exaggerated.


Vote: Asdioh

And there is my response.


A list of town and scum looks like this.

Scum: Asdioh, Seikend, Glyph
Null: GLG, Smarg, TDW, BSL, Aposl
Town: KevinM, Soupa, PL

In no particular order.
 

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J, why must you appear extremely scummy in every single game you play? :(
Lmfao.

Like seriously the irony of this post especially after I posted that case on you. What was the point of even saying this post btw? What did you hope to gain from asking me this?
 

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I want to say that I support an Asdioh lynch and will push it but I am not apposed to a Seikend lynch as well.
 

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A list of town and scum looks like this.

Scum: Asdioh, Seikend, Glyph
Null: GLG, Smarg, TDW, BSL, Aposl
Town: KevinM, Soupa, PL, JTB

In no particular order.
Bolded bit added because I forgot JTB.
 

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Sometimes J makes major scum cases against me.
*goes to read it*
 
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