Bingo Mafia: OVAH! Who won?

[#HBC | ѕoup]

i never knew that feature, ty bro..

 

[Asdioh]

continuing this with a huge note on this, i'm looking for relations and conflicts.

This is good!

Soup is that in chronological order? its really confusing

No, J voted me before I voted him.

i don't think i've ever played a game where a townie ever questioned his/her own alignment.

Guess there's a first time for everything.




BSL, if you flip town, that doesn't prove Glyph as scum at all, and is a waste. Ughhh

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

really tired guys, i'll post it tommorow.

 

[KevinM]

Hilarious.. promises a post an entire night and nothing comes of it.

Still think BSL should go.

Could look at J not sure would have to reread.

Feel like a lot of players haven't made solid stances yet.

 

[smargaret]

Can we go back to TDW's exchange with J on page 15 please? I don't know why J didn't point this out, but the major reason that "waiting for a flip to decide" post was scummy is that it's setting up additional lynches. If we lynch BSL and BSL flips town, then suddenly it's TvS and we have a second lynch suspect for the next day. Until then, however, he doesn't have to decide and can go on merrily sitting on a fence, especially since it seems to have been dropped fairly quickly.

Aposl: Reread pages 3-5. Most of my/GLG's questions are in there.

Glyph has kind of dropped off the face of the earth, but I don't blame him seeing as the Friday skin HURT. I'll give it another day before it takes on substantial significance.

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Vote: TDW[/b\

 

[smargaret]

Mod, can you fix my tags please?

 

[Aposl]

Alright I rer read the pages you asked me too Smarg and guess what? You asked me nothing in them! Neither did GLG so..... please ask me again, soI can answer the question that you have been claiming I have been avoiding.

KevinM you said you liked me and that we should lynch stupidest townie and win in LYLO. I am sure this was sarcasm, but if not why?

X1 you said you thought Smarg was scummy very early on, was this just to get things rolling or did you have a reason, if so please tell.

I still think Smarg is scum, I will keep my vote. Also Smarg you accused me of being scummy, do you still think so? if yes, why?

More questions to come...

 

[smargaret]

Aposl, do you still think lynching the weakest player is the best option? If so, who is that?

@Aposl: Do you agree with me that Seikend is likely scum from what I have posted in my post #124?

Those would be the questions you missed, both on page 5. Are you reading in 40 ppp? It'll make your life a lot easier if you are.

Also, while looking for those posts, I found this one:

Well let me rephrase. Not least intelligent, but least logical. Yes there is experienced players who can probably read the hell out of noobs, but the noobiest thing a person can do is make incorrect logical connections. Basically people who's thinking style is weak. We still have to do the same thing in this "stage" of the game, but if we go after people's intelligence instead of alliance it will allow us to see everyones defense style, argumentation style etc... See how they think, judge whose thinking is the weakest and rid ourselves of them. I have lost a Mafia game because someone on my team couldn't make the correct logical connections to players actions, and game situations, where if I had been in his role it would have been GG's.

Also we can still accuse people of being Mafia, or town or whatever but still implement this strategy.

Combined with your question @ KevM in your most recent post, I sense a contradiction.

In short, yes, I still see you as scummy, but I'm not sure whether that read is because you're new or because you're scum.

 

[JTB]

Soupamario I hate you for getting me all excited about your post then not posting it

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Can we go back to TDW's exchange with J on page 15 please? I don't know why J didn't point this out, but the major reason that "waiting for a flip to decide" post was scummy is that it's setting up additional lynches. If we lynch BSL and BSL flips town, then suddenly it's TvS and we have a second lynch suspect for the next day. Until then, however, he doesn't have to decide and can go on merrily sitting on a fence, especially since it seems to have been dropped fairly quickly.

Aposl: Reread pages 3-5. Most of my/GLG's questions are in there.

Glyph has kind of dropped off the face of the earth, but I don't blame him seeing as the Friday skin HURT. I'll give it another day before it takes on substantial significance.

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Vote: TDW[/b\

Think of it like this Smargz, even though I think I've made it abundantly clear: If BSL flips town, then I think Glyph is scum. If BSL flips scum, then I'll have to reread/talk to Kuz about Glyph. In my head scum's def. in there between those two. Do you think that BSL v Glyph can possibly be T v T?

Obtw there's such thing as EBWOPing that vote in .

Soupamario I'm mad let down mang, but I hope to see watchu got.

Posting like 15 mins after waking up. Sorry if anything's not clear. Just had to read up right quick before heading out.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Important things are bolded and highlighted in yellow.
Titles are red
Sub-titles are Royalblue.
Related things are in green.
Collapsed notes are self-thoughts.


Pregame
Confirmations, nothing really to se- hold on a minute.

things start to kick up..

Posts to look at:

• #28 J states that he is glad to have town this game, could be either actual releif or a self-meta, your call.
  
• #54 Asdioh states to not have pre-game dicussion..

• #61 Smargaret brings up a good point on Aposl, or is it a good point?

Spoiler

to me, i feel that it's okay setting and living by your own rules, which i feel Aposl was doing at D1, and smarg was just reaching for a minute, but since that's really blown over i can't see pushing onto it.

• #74 Seikend wishes to wait for me to confim to talk, and then later..
• #78 Wishes for discussion to stifle, yadda yadda yadda.
  

Spoiler

I decide to pressure Seikend, i was seeing some scum motives by now, not wanting discussion was (and if i think about it now) a sorta scummy thing to do, but i can see why having to go on pre-game stuff would be a handful.

and then BSL comes in and we have a little TvT discussion (or that i thought was Tvt.)

it's nothing much, just game mechanic discussion, and then it is thrown away.

however, it seems BSL has some 'going out of the fray' motive, he didn't just go on Seikend, but instead with some discussion, voted me.

notice how BSL has done that twice now, however Glyph was much, much longer.

I think BSL was trying to make it so attention was off of him, he didn't really go into my discussion as much as he did with Glyph, which makes me feel it's SvS trying too hard.​

Summary:

Spoiler

Pre-game started off way easier than DKR mafia, not alot of people talked, but there was enough information to get reads on.

Pre-game Scum/Town list

• 
  [*]BSL - Town (now reverted to scum)
  [*]J - Town
  [*]Seikend - Scum (now reverted to town)
  [*]Aposl - Scum
  [*]GLG - Town
  [*]Smarg - Town
  [*]Everyone else - Null. (only pre-game.)
  

Nothing else really to note.

D1 has begun!

Voting Order:
Soupamario (me :3) - Votes Seikend at 2:36 PM on March 30th.
BSL - Votes me at 3:30 PM on March 30th. (please notice how long it took BSL to vote Glyph and how much longer the conversation was!)
GLG votes Seikend at 4:40 PM on March 30th.
BSL switches his vote over to Seikend at 4:12 PM on March 30th.


]BSL to me right here is a "oh look this person has 2 votes so it would be okay for me to vote this guy because town is voting him so i won't look scummy."

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

damnit i accidently posteddd!!

mod, could you please delete this for now until i am finished?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Important things that are not related = YELLOW
Important things that are related are bolded in the same color.
Titles = RED
Sub-Titles = ROYALBLUE

Self-Thoughts are collapsed.

Spoiler

IF I DIDN'T POST SOMETHING, I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT.


Pregame
Confirmations, nothing really to se- hold on a minute.

things start to kick up..

Posts to look at:

• #28 J states that he is glad to have town this game, could be either actual releif or a self-meta, your call.
  
• #54 Asdioh states to not have pre-game dicussion..

• #61 Smargaret brings up a good point on Aposl, or is it a good point?

Spoiler

to me, i feel that it's okay setting and living by your own rules, which i feel Aposl was doing at D1, and smarg was just reaching for a minute, but since that's really blown over i can't see pushing onto it.

• #74 Seikend wishes to wait for me to confim to talk, and then later..
• #78 Wishes for discussion to stifle, yadda yadda yadda.

Spoiler

I decide to pressure Seikend, i was seeing some scum motives by now, not wanting discussion was (and if i think about it now) a sorta scummy thing to do, but i can see why having to go on pre-game stuff would be a handful.

and then BSL comes in and we have a little TvT discussion (or that i thought was Tvt.)

it's nothing much, just game mechanic discussion, and then it is thrown away.

however, it seems BSL has some 'going out of the fray' motive, he didn't just go on Seikend, but instead with some discussion, voted me.

notice how BSL has done that twice now, however Glyph was much, much longer.

I think BSL was trying to make it so attention was off of him, he didn't really go into my discussion as much as he did with Glyph, which makes me feel it's SvS trying too hard.

Summary:

Spoiler

Pre-game started off way easier than DKR mafia, not alot of people talked, but there was enough information to get reads on.

Pre-game Scum/Town list

• [*]BSL - Town (now reverted to scum)
  [*]J - Town
  [*]Seikend - Scum (now reverted to town)
  [*]Aposl - Scum
  [*]GLG - Town
  [*]Smarg - Town
  [*]Everyone else - Null. (only pre-game.)
  

Nothing else really to note.

D1 has begun!

Voting Order:
Soupamario (me :3) - Votes Seikend at 2:36 PM on March 30th.
BSL - Votes me at 3:30 PM on March 30th. (please notice how long it took BSL to vote Glyph and how much longer the conversation was!)
GLG votes Seikend at 4:09 PM on March 30th.
BSL switches his vote over to Seikend at 4:12 PM on March 30th.

Spoiler

BSL to me right here is a "oh look this person has 2 votes so it would be okay for me to vote this guy because town is voting him so i won't look scummy."

[Seikend is at L-3.]

JTB - Votes Seikend at 4:13 PM on March 30th.
Smargaret - Votes Seikend at 4:37 PM on March 30th.
Smargaret - Votes Aposl at 4:53 PM on March 30th.
Glyph - Votes Smargaret at 8:34 PM on March 30th.

Spoiler

I can see why Smarg would vote Apsol, he is just trying to hide himself between his filler posts to look like he is actually contributing.

J - Votes Glyph at 8:53 PM on March 30th.


Posts to look at:

• 
  #124 GLG's or should i say (X1-12's) Reasoning on Seikend post.
• Spoiler

  I agree with X1 here, and i really liked how he actually stated his reasons, even though i didn't. ^^;
  
  
• #125 JTB's quick to lynch post.
  
  Spoiler

  doesn't make any stances at all, just votes like that, much like BSL voting.
  
  
  
• #201 GLYPH FINALLY POSTS.
  
  Spoiler

  Anyone else see some buddying with the noob? why did he just vote J like that? we were outta RVS after the siekend bandwagon.
• #205...then...#209.
  
  Spoiler

  "Oh no, please don't go on me, i was only kidding sorry!"
  
  
  #210 J's response
• Spoiler

  basically said what i was thinking, don't you hate that?
  
  
• #217 Glyph's response

Spoiler

Crossing, answering back with the exact opposite of what was thrown at him.

Spoiler

The rest of the Day is just Glyph vs. J and to me it was a SvT situation, Glyph literally just goes "NUH-UH" every time he gets a question answered or something is posted, it's annoying.

Glyph - Votes J at 9:12 PM.
PL - Votes Glyph at 10:41 PM.
Smargaret votes Glyph at 10:53 PM.

• #328 KevinM's Callout.

Spoiler

this is where BSL tips way over to scum.

KevinM - Votes BSL at 12:11 AM.
BSL- Votes Glyph at 12:32 AM.

Spoiler

"YEAH I'M ROLEFISHING AND NOW IM GONNA VOTE GLYPH BECAUSE I CAUGHT HIM OMG KEVINM PLEASE DON'T KILL ME D:"

#385 "look i'm posting more then you that makes me town!"

#392 My name is Asdioh and i like voting for the most obvious scum here but i'd rather just go with an easy vote for now because i don't feel like contributing and i'm not playing at all like i do as town.
Asdioh - Votes JTB at 4:30 AM.
#422 JTB vs. Seikend (i don't really care for this right NOW however it's a good thing to look at.

The rest of the pages explain themselves, yes, i am very lazy. ^^;

scumpicks in next post after some discussion, you guys wanna add anything?

 

[Kataefi]

VOTE COUNT!

(I'm counting valid votes only)

[4] BSL - KevinM / Toasting Dat Walrus / Soupamario / JTB
[4] J - Glyphmoney / GandhiLaserGun / Seikend / Asdioh
[3] Glyphmoney - Pink Lemonade / Smargaret / BSL
[1] Asdioh - J
[1] Smargaret - Aposl

[0] Pink Lemonade
[0] GandhiLaserGun
[0] KevinM
[0] Toasting Dat Walrus
[0] Soupamario
[0] Aposl
[0] Seikend
[0] JTB

mod please delete this post.

Please don't edit posts in the future! If you have accidentally posted and it needs correcting, just post again.

 

[Seikend]

@Soup You asked me about Asdioh scum earlier. Is that just based on #392?

 

[BSL]

Why are you desperate to be lynched :/.

im not. that's why there was that alternative or part. i wont be upset if i get lynched though. especially if glyph gets lynched afterwards.

i don't think i've ever played a game where a townie ever questioned his/her own alignment.

i dont question my alignment. here, let me rephrase what i said.

if everyone in the town thinks there is a member of the mafia among glyph and i, i will gladly allow myself to be lynched to prove that i am not the mafia member, leaving glyph as the only person left in the group. which would mean he would have to be mafia. which would mean glyph has to be lynched.

now some members of town have expressed their opinion that there is a possibility that it is a TvT argument, between glyph and i, so my plan will be disregarded.

This is good!

No, J voted me before I voted him.

Guess there's a first time for everything.




BSL, if you flip town, that doesn't prove Glyph as scum at all, and is a waste. Ughhh

alright, then we wont do what i said.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@Soup You asked me about Asdioh scum earlier. Is that just based on #392?

well..not really, its more-so REVOLVED around #352 rather then based on it.

he just isn't acting like asdioh town to me.

 

[JTB]

ugh, BSL back to null, I can't see a scum wanting to put his life on the line to get a mislynch d1

I have never played with BSL before or seen him play, does this fit in with how he usually plays?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

JTB: notice how he has backed down, and says 'no don't go with it' all of the sudden.

he's pretty much backed into a corner.

 

[BSL]

soup, people said it wouldnt prove anything.

my proposition was under the assumption that if i was town, glyph had to be scum. read the thread, this isnt the case. if i were to be lynched, nothing else would happen. you would just have a dead townie.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

So if you knew it wasn't going to prove anything...why even bring it up?

 

[JTB]

Soupa, instead of calling me out for backing down, tell me if what I said is or is not valid.

I also haven't unvoted because I want to hear more about BSL and if this is something that scumBSL would do.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

that wasn't directed towards you, that was towards BSL.

 

[JTB]

/facepalm @ me

reading comprehension fail

 

[GandhiLaserGun]

Soup, against BSL I wouldn't let that carry much weight. In Soul Calibur he basically agreed to being copped, then right after directed it onto someone else - He was town in that game.

 

[BSL]

So if you knew it wasn't going to prove anything...why even bring it up?

because i didnt know until after i brought it up.

 

[Asdioh]

BSL, do you have any scumpicks besides Glyph?

@Soup: yeah, my first post was pretty contentless, I just wanted to post my general thoughts as people while I was still awake super late at night. I'm pretty sure I've elaborated on my scumpicks since then, though.

 

[BSL]

J i think might be scum. he said he thinks im town after reading my "super scummy reaction", so i think he might be trying to use that to his advantage. according to the rest of the town's logic, how could i not be scum after what i did?

i still think Glyph is scum, and smarg is probably the 3rd one.

there's my reads, you can lynch me now so that there's no doubt that im town. or you can let me live and drop all of the stupidity.

there ya go

 

[Asdioh]

BSL, do you have any scumpicks besides Glyph?

@Soup: yeah, my first post was pretty contentless, I just wanted to post my general thoughts as people while I was still awake super late at night. I'm pretty sure I've elaborated on my scumpicks since then, though.

of people* >_>

 

[BSL]

if im not mistaken, glyph was just viewing this thread a little while ago.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Well, putting BSL aside it would either be:

Pink Lemonade (3 headed Hydra)
OR
Glyph.

 

[JTB]

What are all your scumpicks Soupa?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Town:
GLG
Seikend
Smargaret
KevinM
J

Null:
JTB
Asdioh
Toastin Dat Walrus

Scum:
Glyph
Pink Lemonade
Aposl

 

[BSL]

well, that's really weird...

 

[BSL]

oh, that's in response to soupa listing his scumpicks (i assume thats what that was) before JTB asked.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

BSL you are null right now, i trust GLG so that's why you are.

Glyph is just acting stupid and PL just bother me.

 

[smargaret]

Mod, you won't fix my tags? Frownie face.

Unvote
Vote: TDW

 

[BSL]

BSL you are null right now, i trust GLG so that's why you are.

Glyph is just acting stupid and PL just bother me.

what prompted you to post your scumpicks?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

i said i would after some discussion, but then JTB asked so i complied anyways.

 

[BSL]

nonono, not that post. the one right here:

Well, putting BSL aside it would either be:

Pink Lemonade (3 headed Hydra)
OR
Glyph.