Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Rex's name might not have been on the list that Nintendo gave him. If speculation is correct the list might have been ALL third party characters. So he couldn't add Rex even if he wanted to.

But you have to hand it to the popularity of Xenoblade where a character not getting in deserves an apology. Most other fanbases would kill just for that acknowledgement.

it helps that the XB fans did fight tooth and nail to get the first game brought over.

Also how the hell would that work? Nintendo would barely get any cut of the DLC profits in those circumstances.

 

[Organization XIII]

Also how the hell would that work? Nintendo would barely get any cut of the DLC profits in those circumstances.

Because even if the all the DLC is third party they are still the ones making the most money. There's no way any company is making more than Nintendo on a single character let alone the entirety of the DLC.

 

[Mr. Stagg]

Because even if the all the DLC is third party they are still the ones making the most money. There's no way any company is making more than Nintendo on a single character let alone the entirety of the DLC.

I am interested in learning how these kind of things go down. Things like who get a cut of how much, how long negotiations go on for, and who initiates the contact.

 

[ZealousGamer]

Can we get someone to draw a picture of Master Chief and Mario shaking hands with Banjo & Kazooie holding a Smash Invitation? Or maybe Master Chief dropping Banjo & Kazooie off at a Nintendo House Party of some sort? Both Microsoft and Nintendo are on good terms so it'd seem fitting.

 

[SchAlternate]

Or maybe Master Chief dropping Banjo & Kazooie off at a Nintendo House Party of some sort?

I know you implies a more wholesome scene, but this is what I imagined:

Spoiler

One day, a bunch of the Nintendo characters were chilling out at Mario's house. Suddenly, a loud crash is heard in the living room. When Mario comes to investigate, he discovers a jeep busted tight through the wall, which was driven by Master Chief.

"Hey, plumber. Here's that bear you lent me earlier, but forgot to give you back. Okay bye."

Master Chief tosses Banjo's limp body on top of the snacks tables, which breaks in half and makes snacks fly everywhere. He then revs up his Warthog and drives off. Mario rushes to Banjo.

"Mama mia, if it isn't Banjo! Are you alright, friend?"

He notices Banjo grew a fuzzy beard and has beer stains all over his clothing. Banjo mumbles and groans, and drunkenly responds.

"... Is the Kinect dead? Can I finally get a normal game now...?"[

Banjo then passes out.

"Goodness-a, what did they do to you??"

A loud crash is heard. Master Chief made another hole with his Warthog.

"Oh yeah, forgot this thing too"

He grabs an unconscious Kazooie by the leg and chucks her into a nearby potted plant. Master Chief then drives off again.

 

[MissingGlitch]

I know you implies a more wholesome scene, but this is what I imagined:

Spoiler

One day, a bunch of the Nintendo characters were chilling out at Mario's house. Suddenly, a loud crash is heard in the living room. When Mario comes to investigate, he discovers a jeep busted tight through the wall, which was driven by Master Chief.

"Hey, plumber. Here's that bear you lent me earlier, but forgot to give you back. Okay bye."

Master Chief tosses Banjo's limp body on top of the snacks tables, which breaks in half and makes snacks fly everywhere. He then revs up his Warthog and drives off. Mario rushes to Banjo.

"Mama mia, if it isn't Banjo! Are you alright, friend?"

He notices Banjo grew a fuzzy beard and has beer stains all over his clothing. Banjo mumbles and groans, and drunkenly responds.

"... Is the Kinect dead? Can I finally get a normal game now...?"[

Banjo then passes out.

"Goodness-a, what did they do to you??"

A loud crash is heard. Master Chief made another hole with his Warthog.

"Oh yeah, forgot this thing too"

He grabs an unconscious Kazooie by the leg and chucks her into a nearby potted plant. Master Chief then drives off again.

Go on...you got me intrigued.

 

[Organization XIII]

http://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/460178548/super-smash-bros-ultimate-e3-2019-information
Too bad this leak is standard 4chan leak garbage because it would honestly be awesome.

 

[MissingGlitch]

http://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/460178548/super-smash-bros-ultimate-e3-2019-information
Too bad this leak is standard 4chan leak garbage because it would honestly be awesome.

Just having Dante and Sora mii costume is more the enough reason to throw this entire thing out. You would have to be out of your mind to negotiate for Sora and not use him as the fighter.

Also they don't list a Geno costume when they literally have a Geno costume done and Geno rights already negotiated for. We already know that they are bringing old third party mii costumes back. Why leave out Geno?

 

[Organization XIII]

Yeah like I said it's complete trash but Dante and Banjo would make an awesome E3. And um Erdrick is there too I guess. But yeah two awesome characters to do E3 right would be super rad and getting extra bosses as DLC would be neat.

 

[Mr. Stagg]

Just having Dante and Sora mii costume is more the enough reason to throw this entire thing out. You would have to be out of your mind to negotiate for Sora and not use him as the fighter.

Also they don't list a Geno costume when they literally have a Geno costume done and Geno rights already negotiated for. We already know that they are bringing old third party mii costumes back. Why leave out Geno?

You'd think these fake leakers would read up on speculation to adjust their leaks to be a little more believable. At this point these dudes are just throwing stuff out in hopes it'll stick. We will never find out, but I wonder if the authors of the leaks that got some stuff right were going, "Holy **** it worked!"

 

[TheAnvil]

I'm just curious who you think would make a better shooter rep. Because Doom is one of the father games of the shooter genre. I mean there's Wolfenstein and Duke Nukem which I see no possibility of happening.

Master Chief, Duke Nukem or Bond (yeah I know).

Plus in terms of characters who have guns. RE > all.

 

[Looma]

I'm seeing Jill's name come up a lot. Did I miss something? When did she enter the picture? Do we have something solid on Resident Evil coming?

 

[TheAnvil]

I'm seeing Jill's name come up a lot. Did I miss something? When did she enter the picture? Do we have something solid on Resident Evil coming?

The only thing people felt that kept Resident Evil out of Smash was the lack of realistic looking firearms and since Joker now has one that obstacle is gone.

Since Resident Evil is the most successful Japanese IP not in Smash and Capcom are on board it feels very likely. IGC also mentioned that Jill had been considered which is probably why she's specifically being brought up. Most people think Leon is more likely.

http://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/460178548/super-smash-bros-ultimate-e3-2019-information
Too bad this leak is standard 4chan leak garbage because it would honestly be awesome.

It always blows my mind when people make a fake leak and use one of the few characters specifically deconfirmed.

 

[hustler713]

Because even if the all the DLC is third party they are still the ones making the most money. There's no way any company is making more than Nintendo on a single character let alone the entirety of the DLC.

Well even IF Nintendo wouldn't have any Profits on the DLC it is still Postrelease Promotion. Especially with a char as significant as Banjo.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Plus in terms of characters who have guns. RE > all.

Not when Metal Slug exists.

 

[TheZoologist]

Not when Metal Slug exists.

Metal Slug is incredible.

 

[Mr. Stagg]

Metal Slug is incredible.

It's a shame we don't have an AT of metal Slug like the one Advance Wars had in previous games. The sprite work in those games is legendary. At least have one of the POW's walk out and drop and item before he salutes and runs away.

 

[UnknownJ25]

http://boards.4channel.org/v/thread/460178548/super-smash-bros-ultimate-e3-2019-information
Too bad this leak is standard 4chan leak garbage because it would honestly be awesome.

At this point I accept any leak that includes Banjo in any capacity

 

[SKX31]

I'm just curious who you think would make a better shooter rep. Because Doom is one of the father games of the shooter genre. I mean there's Wolfenstein and Duke Nukem which I see no possibility of happening.

Spoiler: I'm spoilering the response to reduce clutter

I don't think Wolfenstein's impossible, just microscopic due to Doom already filling that niche and Halo being one of the most influential shooters.

Aside from the already mentioned. I'm going to start by posting a relevant video from FPS Youtuber Raycevick:

Both CoD and Battlefield suffer from severe fatigue at this point, and I don't think either has a bona-fide main character that acts as a central focus for multiple games. Really, it's a sideeffect of what Raycevick's talking about - the annual releases pretty much makes sure that not even a single player campaign's safe. As far as Destiny, don't know much, so I won't comment. Not counting on that at all though. Both these games also are too focused on the weapons to make for viable Smash reps.

I could have seen Mass Effect, if there weren't two interconnected problems: a) Nintendo would have to deal with EA for a ME rep, and you know how hated that would be, and b) Andromeda. The PR disaster around that hasn't settled, not with Anthem kind of repeating that.

Battle Arenas like PUBG, Fortnite and Apex are designed to be (almost) purely online with blank slate avatars. (Counter-Strike and similar games - although not battle arenas - are disqualified for similar reasons.) Works for the games themselves, but here's where my personal dislike for such a rep comes in: It would be really limited. Fortnite, for example has a building mechanic - but it's instant, with the player character holding a sketch and then boom stuff gets built. It allows for intense matches in game, since it's designed with guns in mind - but such a mechanic would threaten to break Smash and make the Fortnite rep OP beyond repair. There's very little that can be adapted into Smash, and that's my beef with it.

Really, the only others with a non-zero chance (whether they're merely included or can work as fighters) I can think off would be Overwatch / Paladins and Valve's Orange Box trio. Paladins has the luxury of a Nintendo Switch port, while Overwatch doesn't. Also, while I feel any Overwatch rep is extremely unlikely partly because A-B has other options (Crash foremost). Paladins has another positive: the only other High-Rez property with a Nintendo presence is SMITE (yeah, SMITE also got a Switch port. It might be only a matter of time until other MOBAs like LoL or Dota take the plunge and go on a Nintendo platform). However, Paladins (and SMITE) are not mega popular exactly.

Half Life has a massive advatange: Namely, 1 and 2 are seen as all-time classics, with 3 being a legendary meme. 2 especially introduced the HAVOK engine - and Gordon has a very unique gun in the Gravity Gun (which at least could theoretically work for grabs, if not more). Portal likewise introduced a non-standard gun. Both lack the Nintendo presence, though, which is a major downside. And Valve's shifted to an online focused model, so it would take a lot to signal that they're willing to give Gordon and Chell another chance. Heavy Weapons Guy is actually semi-popular here, not sure personally on if Valve's interested in giving TF2 a Switch port / a shot in the arm though.

Out of the FPSes, I honestly think that Doomguy's the safest pick, and Master Chief seems kinda likely if there's a second or third Pass. I could see an RE pick too. Outside of them. I'd be really interested in one of Valve's characters and an Overwatch / Paladins character. Technically Deus Ex's a shooter, but I'm not sure if it should be classified as that.

 

[MissingGlitch]

Spoiler: I'm spoilering the response to reduce clutter

I don't think Wolfenstein's impossible, just microscopic due to Doom already filling that niche and Halo being one of the most influential shooters.

Aside from the already mentioned. I'm going to start by posting a relevant video from FPS Youtuber Raycevick:

Both CoD and Battlefield suffer from severe fatigue at this point, and I don't think either has a bona-fide main character that acts as a central focus for multiple games. Really, it's a sideeffect of what Raycevick's talking about - the annual releases pretty much makes sure that not even a single player campaign's safe. As far as Destiny, don't know much, so I won't comment. Not counting on that at all though. Both these games also are too focused on the weapons to make for viable Smash reps.

I could have seen Mass Effect, if there weren't two interconnected problems: a) Nintendo would have to deal with EA for a ME rep, and you know how hated that would be, and b) Andromeda. The PR disaster around that hasn't settled, not with Anthem kind of repeating that.

Battle Arenas like PUBG, Fortnite and Apex are designed to be (almost) purely online with blank slate avatars. (Counter-Strike and similar games - although not battle arenas - are disqualified for similar reasons.) Works for the games themselves, but here's where my personal dislike for such a rep comes in: It would be really limited. Fortnite, for example has a building mechanic - but it's instant, with the player character holding a sketch and then boom stuff gets built. It allows for intense matches in game, since it's designed with guns in mind - but such a mechanic would threaten to break Smash and make the Fortnite rep OP beyond repair. There's very little that can be adapted into Smash, and that's my beef with it.

Really, the only others with a non-zero chance (whether they're merely included or can work as fighters) I can think off would be Overwatch / Paladins and Valve's Orange Box trio. Paladins has the luxury of a Nintendo Switch port, while Overwatch doesn't. Also, while I feel any Overwatch rep is extremely unlikely partly because A-B has other options (Crash foremost). Paladins has another positive: the only other High-Rez property with a Nintendo presence is SMITE (yeah, SMITE also got a Switch port. It might be only a matter of time until other MOBAs like LoL or Dota take the plunge and go on a Nintendo platform). However, Paladins (and SMITE) are not mega popular exactly.

Half Life has a massive advatange: Namely, 1 and 2 are seen as all-time classics, with 3 being a legendary meme. 2 especially introduced the HAVOK engine - and Gordon has a very unique gun in the Gravity Gun (which at least could theoretically work for grabs, if not more). Portal likewise introduced a non-standard gun. Both lack the Nintendo presence, though, which is a major downside. And Valve's shifted to an online focused model, so it would take a lot to signal that they're willing to give Gordon and Chell another chance. Heavy Weapons Guy is actually semi-popular here, not sure personally on if Valve's interested in giving TF2 a Switch port / a shot in the arm though.

Out of the FPSes, I honestly think that Doomguy's the safest pick, and Master Chief seems kinda likely if there's a second or third Pass. I could see an RE pick too. Outside of them. I'd be really interested in one of Valve's characters and an Overwatch / Paladins character. Technically Deus Ex's a shooter, but I'm not sure if it should be classified as that.

I think there was a misunderstanding. I thought we were talking about some of the first shooters that could have influenced the genre. If we were to expand it to all shooters yeah I still think it might be Doomguy or Master Chief. My bias would want someone from Overwatch or TF2. Funny enough if rumors of Nintendo going to valve about a half life game are true then Gordon Freeman might stand a legit chance.

 

[SKX31]

I think there was a misunderstanding. I thought we were talking about some of the first shooters that could have influenced the genre. If we were to expand it to all shooters yeah I still think it might be Doomguy or Master Chief. My bias would want someone from Overwatch or TF2. Funny enough if rumors of Nintendo going to valve about a half life game are true then Gordon Freeman might stand a legit chance.

I'll freely admit that was a misunderstanding on my end. Partly because I jumped the gun (heh), but also partly because outside of Doom and Wolfenstein, I'm really struggling to see a viable classic shooter character and thus expanded on it all. Quake's a classic (especially here in Sweden / Europe, with its LAN computer history) but that series has fallen into real niche territory now. Duke Nukem, yea, he's not getting revived after Forever. Unreal Tournament shares many of the same problems as CoD does. Tribes could count as a classic (first released in '98) but it lacks the Nintendo presence too.

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

Let's be real here there's only one Shooter rep that needs to get in and that's Turok the goddamn dinosaur hunter

 

[Bestmand902]

Let's be real here there's only one Shooter rep that needs to get in and that's Turok the goddamn dinosaur hunter

Comic book character XD, has to have originated from a VG

 

[Turb0k]

Posted this in the Sabi Discord, and a lot of people seemed to agree with me. So I figured I'd drop it here too.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Posted this in the Sabi Discord, and a lot of people seemed to agree with me. So I figured I'd drop it here too.View attachment 214203

Makes sense. Even the Switch commercials focus on the young, cool, adult audience, so Ultimate seems like it would be an extension of that overall (4 came out during a time when aiming towards casual and kid audiences was backfiring with the Wii U).

 

[GenoFlash]

Posted this in the Sabi Discord, and a lot of people seemed to agree with me. So I figured I'd drop it here too.View attachment 214203

Seems legit. I figured that was why there were so many JRPG characters in Smash For's DLC, since that's a genre that attracts a hardcore playerbase.

 

[Deleted member]

Hitagi didn’t get btfo’d
https://reddit.app.link/xPbg3sz6jW
We’re screwed
Heck I’m screwed for dissing on steve a lot and it’s too late to change sides

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Oh for crying out loud, again?

Wasn't it established by now that Hitagi that's a bootlicking faker that can't even use their sources right? Seems to me like they'd say this to go "uh, I knew it the whole time, that's right, yup" to save face.

Also, that post is 4 months old.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Oh for crying out loud, again?

Wasn't it established by now that Hitagi that's a bootlicking faker that can't even use their sources right? Seems to me like they'd say this to go "uh, I knew it the whole time, that's right, yup" to save face.

Also, that post is 4 months old.

...Why are we even taking Hitagi seriously again? Isn't he severely unreliable(or was that she?). I mean, this isn't like Verge, who had almost every bit of the base game right, and only is unreliable for DLC at best. And then believed a bad source and got screwed over for a Nintendo direct. Of course, bad sources happen, but he had some reliable information.

Did Hitagi ever have a lot of reliable information? Or barely anything right? Even Tansut's track record is better(though getting one thing right is a great ratio when they never got anything wrong, that doesn't make them reliable. That just makes worth keeping an eye on because they never got anything wrong).

 

[SneakyLink]

Hitagi didn’t get btfo’d
https://reddit.app.link/xPbg3sz6jW
We’re screwed
Heck I’m screwed for dissing on steve a lot and it’s too late to change sides

insert CJ walking forward gif here.

Can we just accept that Hitagi is out? It's obvious they're just saying this to try and save face. Remember: Hitagi also said no VGA reveal.

 

[Deleted member]

I...I think I need a break

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I...I think I need a break

Yeah, that'd be wise. At this point I can't even tell if you're with Steve or against him. It's confusing.

It's best for you to leave the forum for a while and take a breather, there's some cool stuff coming out this month in the meantime.

 

[Deleted member]

...Why are we even taking Hitagi seriously again? Isn't he severely unreliable(or was that she?). I mean, this isn't like Verge, who had almost every bit of the base game right, and only is unreliable for DLC at best. And then believed a bad source and got screwed over for a Nintendo direct. Of course, bad sources happen, but he had some reliable information.

Did Hitagi ever have a lot of reliable information? Or barely anything right? Even Tansut's track record is better(though getting one thing right is a great ratio when they never got anything wrong, that doesn't make them reliable. That just makes worth keeping an eye on because they never got anything wrong).

I think instead of "why are we even talking Hitagi Seriously"?, it's more like "Why is Vergeben taking Hitagi Seriously?"

Or is it just that Hitagi is using Vergeben as a tool to make himself credible?

 

[Organization XIII]

...Why are we even taking Hitagi seriously again? Isn't he severely unreliable(or was that she?). I mean, this isn't like Verge, who had almost every bit of the base game right, and only is unreliable for DLC at best. And then believed a bad source and got screwed over for a Nintendo direct. Of course, bad sources happen, but he had some reliable information.

Did Hitagi ever have a lot of reliable information? Or barely anything right? Even Tansut's track record is better(though getting one thing right is a great ratio when they never got anything wrong, that doesn't make them reliable. That just makes worth keeping an eye on because they never got anything wrong).

Hitagi did leak some stuff outside of Smash that was true but has leaked nothing correctly for our community

Posted this in the Sabi Discord, and a lot of people seemed to agree with me. So I figured I'd drop it here too.View attachment 214203

I don't feel the first three count since they were vets. They appealed to everyone.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I think instead of "why are we even talking Hitagi Seriously"?, it's more like "Why is Vergeben taking Hitagi Seriously?"

Or is it just that Hitagi is using Vergeben as a tool to make himself credible?

Okay, if Vergeben is trusting Hitagi, that's a different situation. But since Hitagi isn't credible for Smash in itself, I'd stay skeptical. Verge is fairly trusthworthy, but we know he isn't perfect. No leakers are, of course. Everybody gets bad information from time to time.

Hitagi did leak some stuff outside of Smash that was true but has leaked nothing correctly for our community

Ah, thank you. I'm staying skeptical, but as I said above, solely cause Verge has some trust in the user.

 

[dlewis53]

Hitagi didn’t get btfo’d
https://reddit.app.link/xPbg3sz6jW
We’re screwed
Heck I’m screwed for dissing on steve a lot and it’s too late to change sides

...And you're taking this seriously why? No really, why? This person was pretty much shown to have a crap record when it came to Smash, so why are you taking them seriously?

 

[Organization XIII]

If we are being fair to Hitagi he did what a leaker should do. He found out his information was bad and then told us. That's much better then other leakers who don't find out their sources are wrong until later. And so far Steve is the only thing he never recanted.
Anyways I still hope this information is wrong. This whole Steve thing is giving me Grinch flash backs where all those leakers said it wasn't real at the same time. It's making super nervous. The only light is that so far everything leaked about DLC so far has been wrong and we are still a good chunk of time away from E3 so no one on our side should be able to make it yet. Still making me nervous though. I really need Sakurai to pick the right Microsoft character.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Posted this in the Sabi Discord, and a lot of people seemed to agree with me. So I figured I'd drop it here too.View attachment 214203

This guy forgot the Piranha Plant.
How does one classify the Piranha Plant?
The character down on Skid Row?

 

[dlewis53]

This guy forgot the Piranha Plant.
How does one classify the Piranha Plant?
The character down on Skid Row?

Basically something Sakurai himself wanted to put in.

 

[pupNapoleon]

Basically something Sakurai himself wanted to put in.

Then even by the user whom I quoted, that alone sets a precedent for any other character being one Sakurai wanted.