Social Banjo-Kazooie Social Thread - Project Dream Come True!

[RetrogamerMax]

Trinity Limit is able to be used without partners, Final Form is always an option, and KH3 has the second form from the Ultima Weapon or that scene with him riding on all the keyblades. There's even the team attack with Riku from 2 or the tandem Keyblade from 3D. There are plenty of options for Final Smashes for Sora because he's got so much he can do.

It would be pretty cool to see Sora get in. I would prefer him over Erdrick or any other Dragon Quest character.

 

[SKX31]

That's not really true. KH has way more than enough original elements that they don't need to bring in the non videogame elements and any fan of the series would be more than understanding of why they didn't need Donald or Goofy. Now, of course, some people will say something about but a majority of people are either going to know why or not care, so it's not a damned if you do or don't thing, it's a however they want to go about it thing.

I do personally lean towards your point, yes. I should clarify the "tough questions" part - as they're subjective in this case. Thinking primarily about the people who will say stuff like "KH is and should be Disney-heavy." to a certain extent (Doesn't have to be Smash, you know, the stuff like the Disney world events playing a bigger part in KH's overall narrative and other such things). If Sora gets into Smash, I do imagine that there will be people decrying the lack of Disney content - and coming up with both valid and invalid arguments.

(EDIT: Not aiming to move the goalposts, pointing out that arguments will be sparked on the Internet no matter what happens with Sora's inclusion.)

 

[MissingGlitch]

I wouldn't have anything negative or positive to say about Sora if he got in. Except maybe besides "At least it isn't Dragon Questt"

 

[Organization XIII]

I do personally lean towards your point, yes. I should clarify the "tough questions" part - as they're subjective in this case. Thinking primarily about the people who will say stuff like "KH is and should be Disney-heavy." to a certain extent (Doesn't have to be Smash, you know, the stuff like the Disney world events playing a bigger part in KH's overall narrative and other such things). If Sora gets into Smash, I do imagine that there will be people decrying the lack of Disney content - and coming up with both valid and invalid arguments.

Oh definitely. Someone somewhere has to complain but still, it'll be a small enough portion that it'll be negligible. And even then most people will have dropped it by the time the next character is revealed anyways.

It would be pretty cool to see Sora get in. I would prefer him over Erdrick or any other Dragon Quest character.

This will be really shocking considering my username, but me too.

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

Im not a huge fan of KH but I'd be a dirty stinking lair if I said I'd be mad or disappointed if Sora got in... I'd love a move set that would incorporate Donald and Goofy. Obviously that's absolutely going to require Disneys full cooperation but I can see it happening

 

[Deleted member]

I love both KH and DQ, so having Sora or a DQ hero in Smash would be great for me.

Now, I would prefer to get Eight from DQ8 the most, but Sora should be fine too.

 

[TheZoologist]

The obvious ideal Square Enix rep for Smash is Crono from Chrono Trigger over the likes of a Dragon Quest or Kingdom Hearts representative, in my opinion.

 

[TheBeastHimself]

I'd rather have Chrono over KH and DQ. Chrono Trigger is one of the best JRPGs in existence.

 

[Organization XIII]

I could live with Crono. Chrono Trigger is fantastic and one of the best RPGs out there to this day, but for me, the greatest game not only Square has made but in the history of gaming is KH2 so I'd love Sora to be chosen if Square gets a new character. Still I would be happy to see Crono too.

 

[TheAnvil]

Mickey > Sora

 

[dlewis53]

Honestly speaking, I don't really care much for either Dragon Quest or Chrono Trigger, so Erdrick or Crono getting in wouldn't do much for me on their own. Sora, on the other hand, could have an initial reveal akin to Joker's at the VGA, and I would be freaking out in the best way possible.

 

[Lycan Rex]

Honestly I don't really care about anyone except banjo at this point. Most of my most wanted are already in the base game. Banjo is the only one keeping me from reaching the fabled "smash nirvana". A state where you are content with the roster. Legends say few have reached it.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

As much as I love Chrono Trigger, I don't really see how you justify having Crono himself being the Square rep in all honesty. Chrono Trigger may be regarded and well loved by SNES fans, with some even hailing it as the best RPG ever... but that's hardly a defining feature for that era of SNES RPGs. Final Fantasy VI, Super Mario RPG, Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest V, hell, even Secret of Mana I've heard called the best RPG by different people. The SNES era in general was just really damn amazing for RPGs and they collectively defined the RPG genre. Chrono Trigger however loses in a couple of distinctive categories beyond that. It's not much of a series as Chrono Cross has always received the moniker of good, not great and completely failing to live up to the quality of Trigger. And that's really it. The Chrono series just ceases to exist after that point, and from what I've heard, the series just can't really have much of a future and the trademarks have even slipped too. Add to that the fact that Chrono doesn't really have much of a fan following himself, an area that can significantly make up for the first point (Geno, King K. Rool, etc.) that just doesn't help him.

Of the Square Seven we heard about ages ago (and really most Square reps in general), Crono just has the least reason to ever make it in. Dragon Quest and Erdrick/Slime/Whoever has a thirty year franchise that's responsible for the console RPG as we know it. Kingdom Hearts and Sora are responsible for one of the biggest crossovers in gaming besides Smash and Kingdom Hearts continues to enjoy huge popularity with III's release. Geno has a large and vocal fan base backing him. Tomb Raider has Lara Croft, one of the most well known characters in gaming history and a massive influence on the 3D action games. Crono really just has the beloved original game going for him, and that's not necessarily all that unique for his era of RPGs.

Plus, he's cut from the same cloth as Erdrick all around being designed by Toriyama and acting as the main playable character of the game while also primarily being shown wielding a sword. I'm not calling anyone specific out in this thread or anywhere else, but I'm always a little confused as to why Erdrick gets hate from some people, yet those same people will turn around and support Crono. Beyond the series they represent, there's not a lot terribly different about them and they potentially bring the same problems some people cite (Anime, Swordsman, JRPG, etc. I don't agree with any, but they both check off a lot of the problem boxes some of the Smash fan base seem so eager to point out).

 

[MissingGlitch]

People outside of Japan actually know who Chrono is which makes people see him more favorably.

Smash speculation is the first time most people have even heard of Erdrick's name let alone who he even is.

 

[Organization XIII]

Plus when it comes to the king of RPGs on the SNES people may list some others as their favorite but really there are only two that could claim the title(based on majority opinion anyways), Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger.

 

[Vycoul]

While Banjo & Kazooie are far and away my most wanted, I'd be ecstatic to see any of these three Square-Enix characters. (Sora, Erdrick, Crono)

I'm not very familiar with Dragon Quest characters outside of those from 7 and 8. But I have massive respect for the series. Honestly, if any series yet to be in Smash "deserves" representation in Smash, it's Dragon Quest IMO.
Kingdom Hearts is a fantastic series that I have a lot of history with and fond memories of.
And it would be surreal to see Crono again, modeled in full HD no less.

The more I read this thread the more I realize that my character preferences are WAY more Japanese-centric than most BK supporters. Laharl and Reimu are my second and third most-wanteds after all.

 

[SKX31]

The obvious ideal Square Enix rep for Smash is Crono from Chrono Trigger over the likes of a Dragon Quest or Kingdom Hearts representative, in my opinion.

We're doing Square reps? Hoo boy, I've got a list of my pure wants. Note that none of these are dislikes, just ordered:

1. JC Denton / Adam Jensen (The Deus Ex games. I seriously recommend the original Deus Ex as long as you can get past the hideous visuals. It's got a story that's up there. But that game - and its hero Denton have not been on a Nintendo machine. Jensen has, though, since Human Revolution got a Wii U port). Gameplaywise, I'm a fan of nanomachine-enhanced characters.
2. A FF villain (Kefka first, Jecht as second choice, Sephiroth / Kuja tied for third). FF's got a ridicolously strong villain lineup after all.
3. Sora
4. Crono
5. Lara Croft
6. DQ character, whether it's Erdrick or someone else. Unless it's Carver / Angelo, then this number goes way upwards.
7. Geno
8. Another FF hero (not considering it a priority because of Cloud. Exceptions to this include Terra, again, in her case the number goes way upwards.)
9. Gex

That's of the characters / series I can think of. Again, all of these are likes and characters I am perfectly fine with as a minimum.

Of the Square Seven we heard about ages ago (and really most Square reps in general), Crono just has the least reason to ever make it in. Dragon Quest and Erdrick/Slime/Whoever has a thirty year franchise that's responsible for the console RPG as we know it. Kingdom Hearts and Sora are responsible for one of the biggest crossovers in gaming besides Smash and Kingdom Hearts continues to enjoy huge popularity with III's release. Geno has a large and vocal fan base backing him. Tomb Raider has Lara Croft, one of the most well known characters in gaming history and a massive influence on the 3D action games. Crono really just has the beloved original game going for him, and that's not necessarily all that unique for his era of RPGs.

Plus, he's cut from the same cloth as Erdrick all around being designed by Toriyama and acting as the main playable character of the game while also primarily being shown wielding a sword. I'm not calling anyone specific out in this thread or anywhere else, but I'm always a little confused as to why Erdrick gets hate from some people, yet those same people will turn around and support Crono. Beyond the series they represent, there's not a lot terribly different about them and they potentially bring the same problems some people cite (Anime, Swordsman, JRPG, etc. I don't agree with any, but they both check off a lot of the problem boxes some of the Smash fan base seem so eager to point out).

I'm pretty sure that Crono at least has more going for him than the Deus Ex protags and Gex. Now any of those three would be out there, truly surprising Square characters.

That said, if I'd hazard a guess as to why the Smash fanbase has a major problem with Anime, Swordsmen and JRPG characters, it's not only because of percieved overexposure - but also because the Anime fandom's become a laughingstock (or a lolcow) outside of the fanbase. Shonen anime especially has several severe problems that pretty much runs through most shows. That's as much as I'm going to say about that.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

Plus when it comes to the king of RPGs on the SNES people may list some others as their favorite but really there are only two that could claim the title(based on majority opinion anyways), Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger.

I really don’t see how you’re ever going to establish a metric that only two can claim that title. The SNES RPGs are beloved by a great many people and you’re likely to see a higher variance between them as favorites than in most other eras. The whole SNES era is one of the most contentious when it comes to establishing the best game in general. I see the most disagreement in that era out of any in all honesty, and we’re talking about games with such critical standing that trying to differentiate so much between them seems like an exercise that’s doomed to fail.

Yeah, Chrono Trigger frequently ends up well regarded and even first on some people’s lists, but not always and all these RPGs generally share a top ten in some way as is. Declaring one definitive just seems pretty well impossible to me given all that.

 

[Organization XIII]

I really don’t see how you’re ever going to establish a metric that only two can claim that title. The SNES RPGs are beloved by a great many people and you’re likely to see a higher variance between them as favorites than in most other eras. The whole SNES era is one of the most contentious when it comes to establishing the best game in general. I see the most disagreement in that era out of any in all honesty, and we’re talking about games with such critical standing that trying to differentiate so much between them seems like an exercise that’s doomed to fail.

Yeah, Chrono Trigger frequently ends up well regarded and even first on some people’s lists, but not always and all these RPGs generally share a top ten in some way as is. Declaring one definitive just seems pretty well impossible to me given all that.

I haven't the general public has. Those two are the ones that are the ones always battling it out for the top RPG slot or just top slot of best of SNES games list. The system is great for RPG fans but just a quick glance for the best one you won't see any challenging those two games for supremacy. Now what the actual best is going to differ person to person but just by pure law of average those two have no competition.

 

[EricTheGamerman]

I haven't the general public has. Those two are the ones that are the ones always battling it out for the top RPG slot or just top slot of best of SNES games list. The system is great for RPG fans but just a quick glance for the best one you won't see any challenging those two games for supremacy. Now what the actual best is going to differ person to person but just by pure law of average those two have no competition.

I've seen them outranked multiple times and placed differently in multiple lists from popular sites and individuals. I don't know where you're getting "by pure law of average those two have no competition." Unless there's some extensive study on the most popular SNES RPG from that era or something more definitive I'm unaware of, I think it's perfectly reasonable to call into question Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger being exclusively battling for the top position. There's a lot of contention for that spot thanks to the SNES's wonderful library of games.

Chrono Trigger is absolutely beloved. That's not really something I'm contesting, but I am contesting the notion that there's any way to determine which one is the best or even the most beloved without a lot of dedication and work to a specific project of that caliber. And that's really just to set up my point that Chrono Trigger doesn't necessarily get to hold its own legacy over other RPGs of the era given that multiple games hold similar reputations from that same era.

 

[Organization XIII]

I've seen them outranked multiple times and placed differently in multiple lists from popular sites and individuals. I don't know where you're getting "by pure law of average those two have no competition." Unless there's some extensive study on the most popular SNES RPG from that era or something more definitive I'm unaware of, I think it's perfectly reasonable to call into question Final Fantasy VI and Chrono Trigger being exclusively battling for the top position. There's a lot of contention for that spot thanks to the SNES's wonderful library of games.

Chrono Trigger is absolutely beloved. That's not really something I'm contesting, but I am contesting the notion that there's any way to determine which one is the best or even the most beloved without a lot of dedication and work to a specific project of that caliber. And that's really just to set up my point that Chrono Trigger doesn't necessarily get to hold its own legacy over other RPGs of the era given that multiple games hold similar reputations from that same era.

I'm guessing I'm getting it from the same source you are, first-hand experience. I'm a huge JRPG fan and always combing sites and lists and any other source for new games to play and without a doubt, the most beloved RPGs have been FF6 or CT for the SNES. It's very rare for me to see someone list any RPG over one of those two. I don't see any RPGs holding the same level of reputation. If you have where you can say it is in contention that's way more impressive.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Honestly I don't really care about anyone except banjo at this point. Most of my most wanted are already in the base game. Banjo is the only one keeping me from reaching the fabled "smash nirvana". A state where you are content with the roster. Legends say few have reached it.

Banjo & Kazooie, Dixie Kong, and Krystal are the last 3 characters left that will make me completely satisfied with the roster. There are other characters I want like my most wanted Goemon who I consider a pipe dream that's never going to happen and Porky and Pig Ganon who I don't deem as necessary for me as the 4 above, but still would love to see.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I'm not really fussy in regards to who gets in. I just want to know who's coming next at this point, it's been long enough.

I really don’t see how you’re ever going to establish a metric that only two can claim that title. The SNES RPGs are beloved by a great many people and you’re likely to see a higher variance between them as favorites than in most other eras. The whole SNES era is one of the most contentious when it comes to establishing the best game in general. I see the most disagreement in that era out of any in all honesty, and we’re talking about games with such critical standing that trying to differentiate so much between them seems like an exercise that’s doomed to fail.

Yeah, Chrono Trigger frequently ends up well regarded and even first on some people’s lists, but not always and all these RPGs generally share a top ten in some way as is. Declaring one definitive just seems pretty well impossible to me given all that.

Yeah, especially considering how some of the best ones weren't distributed worldwide. Some RPGs were even made out of whole cloth for the West to compensate for some games not coming over (although you'd be hard-pressed to see FF Mystic Quest get more love than Secret of Evermore).

 

[ItsMeBrandon]

For me,
Sora >>>>>>> Chrono >>> Erdrick

But Banjo-Kazooie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all of them

 

[Organization XIII]

For me,
Sora >>>>>>> Chrono >>> Erdrick

But Banjo-Kazooie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all of them

Even though I admitted KH2 is my favorite game this is actually true for me too. While I don't ascribe to Nintendo history mattering because Sakurai doesn't, I still want Banjo back with Nintendo. There is no character I want more than Banjo in Smash and the only character I want just as much as Banjo is Isaac. Everything else is like 35 >'s behind. Even Sora.

 

[SuperiorYoshi87]

Banjo is by far my most wanted at this point once he's in I'll have my trinity of all time favorite game character's and the bear and bird... followed closely by

 

[TheZoologist]

Banjo & Kazooie are by and far the ONLY characters I'd actually be hyped and excited about being in Smash. They're my all-time favorite video game characters AND games and would not only be unique and iconic characters with integral history with Nintendo, but they have literally EVERYTHING they need to be in Smash right in their home games. I really want to play Chrono Trigger though, and I'm honestly not even that big of a JRPG fan in the slightest. But Chrono Trigger looks dope as ****. But Crono pales on my list of favorites, which consists of

1. Banjo & Kazooie
2. Banjo & Kazooie
3. Banjo & Kazooie
4. Banjo & Kazooie
5. Banjo & Kazooie
6. Banjo & Kazooie
7. Banjo & Kazooie
8. Banjo & Kazooie
9. Banjo & Kazooie

And there was one other one, its on the tip of my tongue... OH YEAH!

10. BANJO & KAZOOIE.

 

[MonkeyDLenny]

I have my little theory why up until very recently, Microsoft has ignored Banjo-Kazooie

It's not a lack of demand; the fact that people like to COMPLAIN that Banjo-Kazooie fans never shut up is proof that there is an extreme demand for them to return. The REAL reason they refuse to bring them back is because the Banjo-Kazooie fans don't CARE about Microsoft, and ultimately would not support them.

Think about it: When you think Banjo, you immediately associate them with Nintendo and the N64. They may be owned by Microsoft but they're a distinctly Nintendo IP. When you think of Microsoft, what comes to mind? Halo most likey. Microsofts brand is far different than Nintendo's brand; and no matter how much they try to push Banjo as a pseudo-second mascot (He's all over the Game Pass marketing) you still think of Nintendo

Be honest, be 100% honest. If they announced a new Banjo-Kazooie as an Xbox exclusive, would you genuinely shell out the hundreds of dollars to get a whole Xbox One just for that one game? Most likely not... for that kind of money you can get the First4 statue. But if they announced it to come to the Switch? Hell yes, everyone would be all over that! Because the vast majority of Banjo fans are in the Nintendo camp, not the Microsoft camp

Imagine say... McDonald's suddenly started offering the Whopper and Burger King didn't anymore; You shout at McDonalds and demand they give you a Whopper; but you'd rather they deliver it to the Burger King rather than you go all the way over to McDonald's to get it, because you don't like McDonalds, you just want the Whopper

The people who want Banjo back want Banjo back on Nintendo's system, not Microsoft's. Banjo isn't the kind of franchise that sells entire systems. I'm actually convinced that Super Lucky's Tale was a low-risk experiment to see if a 3D platformer in the same vein as Banjo could move a system, and it failed. They know not enough people will make the leap to Xbox just for Banjo, but selling nostalgia merch? Bingo

Now, this is all speaking of the PAST... PRESENTLY Nintendo and Microsoft are practically dating at this point, and with them willing to give up Cuphead; one of their golden eggs over to the Switch, the future may look bright for the duo, but so far this is my best theory why only up until NOW have they not budged

 

[SneakyLink]

Banjo & Kazooie are by and far the ONLY characters I'd actually be hyped and excited about being in Smash. They're my all-time favorite video game characters AND games and would not only be unique and iconic characters with integral history with Nintendo, but they have literally EVERYTHING they need to be in Smash right in their home games. I really want to play Chrono Trigger though, and I'm honestly not even that big of a JRPG fan in the slightest. But Chrono Trigger looks dope as ****. But Crono pales on my list of favorites, which consists of

1. Banjo & Kazooie
2. Banjo & Kazooie
3. Banjo & Kazooie
4. Banjo & Kazooie
5. Banjo & Kazooie
6. Banjo & Kazooie
7. Banjo & Kazooie
8. Banjo & Kazooie
9. Banjo & Kazooie

And there was one other one, its on the tip of my tongue... OH YEAH!

10. BANJO & KAZOOIE.

So I guess number 537 is Chrono then?

I can accept that.

While I'm here, any users here wish to partake in a Hunger Games sim that I'm running in the Social?

 

[weallfloatdownhere7]

I have my little theory why up until very recently, Microsoft has ignored Banjo-Kazooie

It's not a lack of demand; the fact that people like to COMPLAIN that Banjo-Kazooie fans never shut up is proof that there is an extreme demand for them to return. The REAL reason they refuse to bring them back is because the Banjo-Kazooie fans don't CARE about Microsoft, and ultimately would not support them.

Think about it: When you think Banjo, you immediately associate them with Nintendo and the N64. They may be owned by Microsoft but they're a distinctly Nintendo IP. When you think of Microsoft, what comes to mind? Halo most likey. Microsofts brand is far different than Nintendo's brand; and no matter how much they try to push Banjo as a pseudo-second mascot (He's all over the Game Pass marketing) you still think of Nintendo

Be honest, be 100% honest. If they announced a new Banjo-Kazooie as an Xbox exclusive, would you genuinely shell out the hundreds of dollars to get a whole Xbox One just for that one game? Most likely not... for that kind of money you can get the First4 statue. But if they announced it to come to the Switch? Hell yes, everyone would be all over that! Because the vast majority of Banjo fans are in the Nintendo camp, not the Microsoft camp

Imagine say... McDonald's suddenly started offering the Whopper and Burger King didn't anymore; You shout at McDonalds and demand they give you a Whopper; but you'd rather they deliver it to the Burger King rather than you go all the way over to McDonald's to get it, because you don't like McDonalds, you just want the Whopper

The people who want Banjo back want Banjo back on Nintendo's system, not Microsoft's. Banjo isn't the kind of franchise that sells entire systems. I'm actually convinced that Super Lucky's Tale was a low-risk experiment to see if a 3D platformer in the same vein as Banjo could move a system, and it failed. They know not enough people will make the leap to Xbox just for Banjo, but selling nostalgia merch? Bingo

Now, this is all speaking of the PAST... PRESENTLY Nintendo and Microsoft are practically dating at this point, and with them willing to give up Cuphead; one of their golden eggs over to the Switch, the future may look bright for the duo, but so far this is my best theory why only up until NOW have they not budged

Well, Microsoft asked for that then since they were the ones who bought Rare

 

[SneakyLink]

Well, Microsoft asked for that then since they were the ones who bought Rare

Isn't there some story that Microsoft wanted to snatch Donkey Kong from Nintendo?

And they got Banjo instead.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Isn't there some story that Microsoft wanted to snatch Donkey Kong from Nintendo?

And they got Banjo instead.

All I remember is they wanted DK, but I think they wanted all Rareware properties too? DK was important cause it is a major iconic franchise and all.

 

[SneakyLink]

All I remember is they wanted DK, but I think they wanted all Rareware properties too? DK was important cause it is a major iconic franchise and all.

I found a quote from a deleted tweet that should explain what happened:

The current generation of ‘enablers’ won’t even know they own the IP… Here’s a true story.. When Rare was first bought by MS a group of execs came on a tour.. One of them noticed the Donkey Kong. ..Posters everywhere and said.. ‘Hey that’s great.. We own Donkey Kong right??’ ………/massivesigh

Source

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

Banjo is by far my most wanted at this point once he's in I'll have my trinity of all time favorite game character's and the bear and bird... followed closely by

You my friend have excellent taste, Not only are your favorite characters from my top 3 favorite Nintendo franchises, But Is it just a coincidence or do you love Reptile/Lizard/Dinosaur/Dragon characters like I do?

- Yoshi is my all time favorite video game character. (Yoshi's Story was my first ever video game, So I have a soft spot for the dino)

- Charizard (I've been a hardcore Pokemon fan since Gen 1 and Charmander's evolution line is where my love for the franchise all started)

- King K Rool (Big fan of Donkey Kong and Rareware, love the Country series, But grew up mainly on DK 64 and that's where I've come to love the big Kroc)

 

[MissingGlitch]

I have my little theory why up until very recently, Microsoft has ignored Banjo-Kazooie

It's not a lack of demand; the fact that people like to COMPLAIN that Banjo-Kazooie fans never shut up is proof that there is an extreme demand for them to return. The REAL reason they refuse to bring them back is because the Banjo-Kazooie fans don't CARE about Microsoft, and ultimately would not support them.

Think about it: When you think Banjo, you immediately associate them with Nintendo and the N64. They may be owned by Microsoft but they're a distinctly Nintendo IP. When you think of Microsoft, what comes to mind? Halo most likey. Microsofts brand is far different than Nintendo's brand; and no matter how much they try to push Banjo as a pseudo-second mascot (He's all over the Game Pass marketing) you still think of Nintendo

Be honest, be 100% honest. If they announced a new Banjo-Kazooie as an Xbox exclusive, would you genuinely shell out the hundreds of dollars to get a whole Xbox One just for that one game? Most likely not... for that kind of money you can get the First4 statue. But if they announced it to come to the Switch? Hell yes, everyone would be all over that! Because the vast majority of Banjo fans are in the Nintendo camp, not the Microsoft camp

Imagine say... McDonald's suddenly started offering the Whopper and Burger King didn't anymore; You shout at McDonalds and demand they give you a Whopper; but you'd rather they deliver it to the Burger King rather than you go all the way over to McDonald's to get it, because you don't like McDonalds, you just want the Whopper

The people who want Banjo back want Banjo back on Nintendo's system, not Microsoft's. Banjo isn't the kind of franchise that sells entire systems. I'm actually convinced that Super Lucky's Tale was a low-risk experiment to see if a 3D platformer in the same vein as Banjo could move a system, and it failed. They know not enough people will make the leap to Xbox just for Banjo, but selling nostalgia merch? Bingo

Now, this is all speaking of the PAST... PRESENTLY Nintendo and Microsoft are practically dating at this point, and with them willing to give up Cuphead; one of their golden eggs over to the Switch, the future may look bright for the duo, but so far this is my best theory why only up until NOW have they not budged

I don't know how I feel about people forever thinking Banjo is a Nintendo franchise to be the reason Banjo won't come back.

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

Banjo & Kazooie are by and far the ONLY characters I'd actually be hyped and excited about being in Smash. They're my all-time favorite video game characters AND games and would not only be unique and iconic characters with integral history with Nintendo, but they have literally EVERYTHING they need to be in Smash right in their home games. I really want to play Chrono Trigger though, and I'm honestly not even that big of a JRPG fan in the slightest. But Chrono Trigger looks dope as ****. But Crono pales on my list of favorites, which consists of

1. Banjo & Kazooie
2. Banjo & Kazooie
3. Banjo & Kazooie
4. Banjo & Kazooie
5. Banjo & Kazooie
6. Banjo & Kazooie
7. Banjo & Kazooie
8. Banjo & Kazooie
9. Banjo & Kazooie

And there was one other one, its on the tip of my tongue... OH YEAH!

10. BANJO & KAZOOIE.

I'm not that really into JRPG's either, I think you mentioned before that just like me the only JRPG you got into was Pokemon.

But there is one JRPG that's been on my radar for a while and that's the Earthbound/Mother series, I always liked that it's more grounded and closer to a real world setting like Pokemon and not like traditional JRPG's.

Plus if I'm not mistaken secondary Pokemon developer (Creatures. inc) was succeeded from (Ape. inc ) which worked and help create Earthbound so it seems that there was always a connection and similarities between the 2 that has caught my interest.

 

[SneakyLink]

Well my HG sim with some users here has begun in the Social...

aaaannnndddd I got eliminated by MissingGlitch

Guess the race to get the (maybe) Banjo amiibo could play out the same way...

 

[ChunkySlugger72]

Isn't there some story that Microsoft wanted to snatch Donkey Kong from Nintendo?

And they got Banjo instead.

I found a quote from a deleted tweet that should explain what happened:



Source

I'm sure the head of Xbox and a couple of higher ups at the time knew what they were and were not getting, I mean it would foolish and reckless of them to not see what they were acquiring.

But I imagined that after the acquisition went through they sent some suit and tie executives that don't really know jack about video games to check Rare out only to see DK's face plastered everywhere and make the the assumption they acquired the rights.

Some people make the story seem bigger than it really is like if it were Microsoft CEO Bill Gates or the head of Xbox in 2002 that cluelessly thought they bought the rights to Donkey Kong.

 

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I'm sure the head of Xbox and a couple of higher ups at the time knew what they were and were not getting, I mean it would foolish and reckless for them to not see what they were acquiring.

But I imagined that after the acquisition went through they sent some suit and tie executives that don't know really know jack about video games to check Rare out only to see DK's face plastered everywhere and make the the assumption they acquired the rights.

Some people make the story seem bigger than it really is like if it were Microsoft CEO Bill Gates or the head of Xbox in 2002 that cluelessly thought they bought the rights to Donkey Kong.

It would've been funnier if Bill Gates himself did think they owned DK after buying Rare.

 

[Crash4Smash]

I'm for it happening.