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ballin4life

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i still use fox utilt in combos. i just don't like it after a fair/dair approach because i always mess it up and miss - it doesn't seem to have that big of a hitbox. and it sucks on shield too haha.

also SK you hadn't seen that combo before? wtf

not to mention that this combo was my 6th video ever way back in 2009.
 

The Star King

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You don't use them after fair/dair approaches, you use them after uairs/dtilts (dtilt -> pivot utilt) or to beat approaches itself

I've probably seen it but I forgot about it by the time you started hating on Fox's utilt
 

ballin4life

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well, yes, i use utilt for those purposes (although I don't do the "beat approaches" one nearly enough). My criticism was limited to using them after fair/dair approaches. (I don't even remember my criticism being as severe as you seem to be implying)
 

Sangoku

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I thought I remembered ballin saying utilt was the worst move in the game. Maybe he didn't though. But I agree that it's terrible after a fair/dair, the hitbox is so strange it will miss most of the time.

Dtilt, pivot utilt seems nice, too bad I can't pivot utilt correctly.
 

Sangoku

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Eh I'm not saying you said that. If you say you don't remember it, then you probably didn't lol. Also Mario>Fox and Jigglypuff>Fox.

Edit: here are the quotes:
fox's utilt is such garbage.

the hitbox on fox's utilt is just horrible
the hitbox is horizontally tiny.

nothing combos into the move well

Maybe my confusion was due to these being posted in the Best/worst move in the game thread.
 

ballin4life

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I'm uploading stuff from my livestreams.

There's a LOT to get through (like 12.5 hours) so I guess I will try to cherry pick the entertaining matches to upload first.
 

B Link

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Those matches were sick. It's tough for me to rewatch them when they're not on youtube (cuz I forget about them) so that would def be a good idea
 
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