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Bad Idea Mafia Redux! GAME OVER!

Nicholas1024

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I was seriously considering doing that myself, but actually, it's a bad idea. If he is the godfather (he can't be another scum), we would have had 24 hours to find scum. If not, we lose anyway by GF quickshot.
 

Nicholas1024

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Also, whatever bomb is left, would you please go ahead and claim? A mis-shoot will lose us the game anyways, so no need to worry about the tactician. We need the extra clear.
 

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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BANG!

Thedocsalive has officially shot Rockin, Townie!

And with that, only two townies remain with the ability to daykill.

Just after unloading the deciding bullet, the remaining townies slowly looked back at the corpse of FYC Chibosempai and notice a tattered sheet of paper just barely sticking out of his front pocket, flapping in the light breeze. They remove and unfold it and begin to read what begins as cop's case log, and ends as something disturbingly sinister and childish.

Night 3

I've been getting no where in my investigation. The mafia must be on to me. Been sabotaged at every turn, can't find a shred of evidence. I'll keep at it though.

Night 4

Finally! My first lead, and a good one at that! I knew it, Chuckie has been behind everything the whole time! Come morning he'll have a billet in his head for sure.......
The text ends abruptly and is divided from the next section by a crude line of dried blood.

Dear Mayor of the Town,

Good morning. Wii are juniours Chuckie and El Deuso of the naughty nursery, known otherwise as the Baddest-Baddest-Baddest Mafia. Wii love:

- Crayola Scissors
- Baby Wee-Wee
- Blood

Wii are writing on behalf of GodDaddy Kevin. Wii would like to thank you for your cooperation as wii take over your Town. As you may have realized, your police force is completely helpless to stop our nursery's takeover because they don’t have popsicles. Now, it is impossible for you to win, and you have two choices: you can summon the sea ponies, who will help you resign as mayor and leave the town forever and never ever look back, or you can refuse to resign and die as visualised in the video below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDcIPITtRSo

If you value your life, and recognize defeat, you should immediately resign from office and leave. And when you leave, PLEEEEZ donate sweets. This is to fund the new flag we plan on raising over your police office that will read “Naughty Nursery, the Baddest-Baddest-Baddest Mafia.”

Thank you very much for your cooperation.

Scribbled,

Chuckie, Adumbrodeus and on behalf of GodDaddy KevinM
The remaining townies look back at their enemies with horror on their faces as three simultaneous shots rang out, and three simultaneous thumps signaled the end of the the last remaining hope the town had.

Thedocsalive, Townie; Nicholas1024, Townie; and Meta-Kirby, Bomb have been endgame'd!

KevinM, Mafia Godfather; Chuckie, Mafia Tactician; and Adumbrodeus, Mafia Inheritor have won the game! Congratulations!
 

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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I want to extend a huge thank you to everyone who accepted my invitation to play in this game! I had a great time hosting it and I hope you guys had a great time playing in it! I personally think that this setup has come a long way since it's original form and my original re-tailoring of it, and I was happy to see the game play out in a way that wasn't degenerate with only one logical course of action.

Please do not hesitate to give me feedback on the setup/game rules! As always I want to continue to fine tune this setup to make it as perfectly balanced and streamlined as possible.

Here are all of the night actions:

Night Actions said:
N1:

EauxLune investigates Ligolski (result: town aligned)
Chibo investigates Chuckie (result: sabotaged)
Chuckie sabotages Chibo.
Mafia kills Omnididdle.

N2:

EauxLune investigates Nicholas1024 (result: town aligned)
Chibo investigates Chuckie (Result:sabotaged)
Chuckie sabotages Chibo.
Mafia kills Gheb_01.

N3:

EauxLune investigates Rockin (result: town aligned)
Chibo investigates Chuckie (result: sabotaged)
Chuckie rewires Overswarm (successful) and sabotages Chibo.
Mafia kills Ronike.

N4:

Chibo investigates Chuckie (result: mafia aligned)
Chuckie sabotages Nicholas1024
Mafia kills Chibo.
Major props to Chuckie for quite literally playing a perfect Tactician game. All successful sabo's when they matter and no missed rewires plus a success rewire and ensuing daykill of the rewired bomb. Fantastic play on Vand's and Kat's part there.

I have some other comments and stuff but I probably won't get to those till later tonight. Once again, thanks to everyone for playing! Holler at each other and/or me to your hearts content here! XP
 

CT Chia

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I knew Chuckie was scum for some reason since the very beginning and literally cop'd him EVERY SINGLE NIGHT but was BLOCKED EVERY SINGLE NIGHT URG

Also I really thought Kevin was scum and would have shot him very early if I had been a VT :/

gg scum, flawless victory.
 

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Looks to me like this game is...

...a bad idea.

Yeeaaaaaaaa!
 

Nicholas1024

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Argh... Just ARGH... My endgame picks for scum were Rockin, KevinM, and Meta-kirby/Chuckie. Quickshots killed town completely this game. *blames Rockin*
 

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I figured the scum team was KevinM, Adumbrodeus, and Rockin. Did not see Chuckie coming, and still am waiting for Rockin' to somehow be scum somehow. I unfortunately could not daykill. :(
 

Nicholas1024

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What made me sure that Rockin was scum is that you were rewired. I realized you probably weren't a VT because you didn't shoot Rockin, and you claimed not to be cop. So the rewire + Rockin shot made me think Rockin was scum and had you pegged as bomb (or at least non-VT) earlier.
 

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claiming non-cop
FYC Chibosempai, Cop has been brutally murdered!

Day 5 begins now!

Active Cooldowns:

Rockin may not daykill until 1 PM EST on August 5th.
Really Chibo? Really? Seriously, why did you lied?

anyway, I was pretty shocked to see that I instantly got shot the moment day arrived. I guess I deserved it...I dunno.

I was hoping Overswarm was scum. After him claiming, I measured him either being a bomb or scum (majorly leaning scum due to his responses), but frowned when he came up Bomb.

I'm STILL trying to wonder why our OTHER cop decided to LIE AND go for the same guy every four nights. Seriously. The worst part was that everyone was waiting for that other cop to claim....UGH.

Still...Mafia did a good job. I never considered neither of the mafia members at all.

Good game guys.
 

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Because, the investigation never went through. He got sabotaged three times and then killed.
 

CT Chia

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I lied because I had been sabotaged EVERY single night and wanted to make scum think I wasn't a cop so they would stop

I even tried to pull a gambit by abusing the editing rules and try to "slip" that I was a VT without claiming it to make it more believable.
 

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Really Chibo? Really? Seriously, why did you lied?
Probably because he was blocked several nights in a row and was hoping he wouldn't be blocked again. Who knows?

anyway, I was pretty shocked to see that I instantly got shot the moment day arrived. I guess I deserved it...I dunno.
DAYKILL: ROCKIN

YOU STILL DESERVE IT


I was hoping Overswarm was scum. After him claiming, I measured him either being a bomb or scum (majorly leaning scum due to his responses), but frowned when he came up Bomb.
*rage*

Why would you shoot someone when you thought they were bomb? Why? D:
 

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Wtf Rockin OS was like the most obvtown ever.

BIM is about suspect ppl shooting suspect ppl for more pseudo-clears. People who aren't suspect aren't supposed to shoot like that.

:059:
 

Nicholas1024

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+1 Overswarm.

Daykill: Rockin

When not one person comments on your "case", you shouldn't go through with an out-of-nowhere quickshot. I mean, really?

I am now starting a motion to get Rockin to claim vig/not-vig at the beginning of every game so we can direct his shots/ kill him if he's the vig. This is the third time in a row he's sabotaged town with a vig shot. (SSB mafia and Spidey mafia were the other two)
 

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Argh... Just ARGH... My endgame picks for scum were Rockin, KevinM, and Meta-kirby/Chuckie. Quickshots killed town completely this game. *blames Rockin*
Blame me all you want. All I did was shoot someone I felt was suspicious.

that's still a bad reason for lieing. We were waiting all day for the other cop to claim. If I didn't shoot, the game would've been either standstill for the longest (or someone else would've shot someone)

Really, I don't like announcing 'I'M GONNA SHOOT HIM!' cause it's just retarted, and may let the guy either shoot back in retaliation or let someone else shoot me. Scum could easily say 'BUT HE WAS GONNA SHOOT OBVI TOWN'

In either case, I'm satisfied with my shot, and I am happy that Mc Cloud shot Teemo (cause I WAS gonna shoot him either that day or the next, since it seemed he was trying to cover the Chaco shooting)
 

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Why would you shoot someone when you thought they were bomb? Why? D:
Again, I was pretty confident you was scum. Bombs (at least those I envisioned) would've answered a case against them to avoid being shot instead of just 'lightly brushing it off' or ignoring it.

Wtf Rockin OS was like the most obvtown ever.

BIM is about suspect ppl shooting suspect ppl for more pseudo-clears. People who aren't suspect aren't supposed to shoot like that.

:059:
He was not onvi town to me.

In fact, I don't think I really saw anyone obvitown.

+1 Overswarm.

Daykill: Rockin

When not one person comments on your "case", you shouldn't go through with an out-of-nowhere quickshot. I mean, really?

I am now starting a motion to get Rockin to claim vig/not-vig at the beginning of every game so we can direct his shots/ kill him if he's the vig. This is the third time in a row he's sabotaged town with a vig shot. (SSB mafia and Spidey mafia were the other two)
Yeah, pretty much. It just tells me they're trying to hide something.

I didn't sabotaged this game or any previous game. Thedoc decided to end the game as he felt he was pretty confident in me being scum. I just helped with the casualties (which wasn't my intention)

SSBM, I felt you was pretty scummy and I wasn't the only one. I tried to seee you as town there, but didn't and decided to shoot you off. You came up town, so I was sad.

Spidey mafia was an entirely different game. I only messed up due to the PM flavor confusion, not my shot. Yes, I killed a townie, but it didn't screw off the game entirely.
 

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Gheb you played well. I stopped reading after you died since I knew mo one else wad gonna gun for Kevin after that.

Sad that I died N1.

Good play Chuckie.
 

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Also rockin didn't sabatoge the game. I think his shot was better picked over whatshisface after being vla and Toms.

The combination of people doing their own thing killed town.
 

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I don't like the rewiring much; it seems a bit too iffy. It works, but I think scum having the ability to prevent someone from Daykilling on a day would be more fun and wifomy ^_^

Just personal preference though. I hated being a bomb. :(
 

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I lied because I had been sabotaged EVERY single night and wanted to make scum think I wasn't a cop so they would stop
"Wii suspected you were a cop based on how involved you were with the cop discussions D1... the first thing wii thought was how complex the mechanics of BIM appeared to be, and that players of each town role would naturally gravitate toward discussion that directly involved them. That's why wii blocked you forevah."

Says Chuckie :chuckle:

GGs guys!

Big credit to Deus/Kevin who read Swarm as the bomb.
 

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Gheb you played well. I stopped reading after you died since I knew mo one else wad gonna gun for Kevin after that.

Sad that I died N1.

Good play Chuckie.
Is it sad that I didn't want to gun for Kevin (since I'd have to present a case since I couldn't shoot) because everytime I call him out in any game I end up getting killed myself? I didn't want to die being a cop (though worthless anyway haha), but Kevin always hardly posts and acts quiet whenever he's scum and tries to stay out of everything.

"Wii suspected you were a cop based on how involved you were with the cop discussions D1... the first thing wii thought was how complex the mechanics of BIM appeared to be, and that players of each town role would naturally gravitate toward discussion that directly involved them. That's why wii blocked you forevah."

Says Chuckie :chuckle:

GGs guys!

Big credit to Deus/Kevin who read Swarm as the bomb.
good stuff
good logic
 

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What made me sure that Rockin was scum is that you were rewired. I realized you probably weren't a VT because you didn't shoot Rockin, and you claimed not to be cop. So the rewire + Rockin shot made me think Rockin was scum and had you pegged as bomb (or at least non-VT) earlier.
Yeah, I would've never gone for the last day quickshot if OS weren't rewired. I'm shocked Rockin wasn't GF given that point.

Sorry town. :(

Scum played great though and earned the win overall.

The combination of people doing their own thing killed town.
Ah, the perils of BIM.
 

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Teemo made an acceptable play, but not a good one.

Mccloud made a bad play, but it could have been overcome.

Xonar needs to be blacklisted en of discussion. We were ****ed from this point on.

Rockin, you made a terrible play. Excluding the fact that os was pretty **** obvtown, by quickshooting with no warning in the midst of a plan and when town knew themselves to be **** near lylo with gf gambit, you took the game to lylo without the gf firing. Worse play than anyone but xonar. Sorry dude

docs made the right play, had he not quickshot, Kevin woulda come in and quickshot eventually.

Mafia, you guys curb stomped us... A great game played by you guys, even if we had gotten it together we prolly still woulda lost.

Good setup ff, it's just people gotta learn how to play bim. Count me outta the next one
 

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Kevin played typical Scum Kevin, I'm glad my meta on him is completely confirmed.

I don't know, the bombs in this game are really useless. Playing AS a bomb is like.....useless, like a VT without a vote.

That was hard, I'm glad I wasn't killed though and 'splode. :]
 

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Rockin, you made a terrible play. Excluding the fact that os was pretty **** obvtown, by quickshooting with no warning in the midst of a plan and when town knew themselves to be **** near lylo with gf gambit, you took the game to lylo without the gf firing. Worse play than anyone but xonar. Sorry dude
He wasn't obvitown. I didn't see it and I dunno how anyone else could. It's like saying Temmo was obvitown and I didn't see that as well.

Like I said. I hate telling that I'm gonna shoot cause it'll just make someone else either shoot me for being retarted or have the person who I was suspecting shoot me. I just don't like it.

I TRIED twice to consider not shooting OS, but he didn't want to co-operate, none of town really paid attention cause they rather wait GODS KNOWS HOW LONG till the cop WHO WASN'T GOING TO EFFING CLAIM clam. We would've been stuck on that Day unless

1) chibo claim

2) someone shot

and since no one didn't want to look into the case TWICE or consider talking about something else while we waited for the COP WHO WASN'T GOING TO CLAIM, I took the inititive.

It.Had.To.Be. DONE
 

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I really wanna know:

Xonar, did you make a mistake? Did you forget that bombs cannot kill, did you know it from the start, or did you honestly lie and basically shine yourself in a negative light for everyone in DGames to witness?

Honestly, I'd LOVE to know.
 

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I dunno why people say Kevin was obviscum if

1) they didn't push a case on him

2) shot him

and people should not take credit for having suspicion on said person cause they didn't do anything about it.
 

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Not everything that moves needs to be shot, Rockin *glares at you*
I would've shot him, he's OBVIOUS scum. I can say this because I didn't even have the option to shoot, I was almost at a complete loss as to how to be useful.
 

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Not everything that moves needs to be shot, Rockin *glares at you*
I would've shot him, he's OBVIOUS scum. I can say this because I didn't even have the option to shoot, I was almost at a complete loss as to how to be useful.
never saw 'obviscum Kevin.' Just everyone doing their thing.

and no, you can't say this. You was a bomb, yes, but you could've made cases with reasons why Kevin was scum. Or at least put pressure or something as to who you felt was scummy.

No johns.
 

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never saw 'obviscum Kevin.' Just everyone doing their thing.

and no, you can't say this. You was a bomb, yes, but you could've made cases with reasons why Kevin was scum. Or at least put pressure or something as to who you felt was scummy.

No johns.
I told town to look more at Kevin, but then you shot Overswarm because you held a temper tantrum. Who's at fault? I didn't kill 3 townies. V__V

Kevinscum is easy to spot, honestly, it's the same "omg town you are ****ing us over, god dammit so mad at town" mentality combined with town. It's one of the few metas I actually know very very well.
 
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