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Awkward Moments Mafia - Game over! Scum wins! Will a SD game ever see a town victory?

Kantrip

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@thethirdkoopa, voting rad fic because I still think Swiss vs Soupa seemed like SvT. Considering Soup's been looking a little more town, my vote went to Rad Fic. Swiss appeared to be leading Soup into an answer. When Soup gave this answer, Swiss voted for him. This just doesn't seem right.
 

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Will elaborate tommorow.
 

Armor

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Okay so not the best game to explain my concept but let me tell you the outcome of RO was mostly because of the lack of good town play. Honestly in a game where town has there **** together, lynching scum is way more important than lynching inactives especially if we have plenty time to find our lynch. I've already done more here than the entire town did in all of RO so don't worry about bad town play.

Do you think Gova is coasting scum or do you just think he's inactive?
Even if town played better, if they weren't willing to lynch the guys who had no posts, we'd have lost anyway. The only way to win with "better" town would have been to have all town reads, and I don't think that inspires confidence in any player.
 

July

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Sorry about inactivity, college and keeping up in other games has kicked my *** a bit.

It would be nice if July was here. I have a feeling she's going to do a catchup-esque post that's gonna be really long and make me feel like she's town, regardless of what her alignment may be.
@July: I challenge you to multipost responding to whatever you may, instead of doing it all in one huge post. Those are much easier for me to read :D
Well I planned on making a large catchup-esque post...but I accept your challenge :p
 

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First off, stop calling me a lady, that would displease wife very much. I knew you were Bisexual just as with your cousin.
Second off, I don't always post quote walls. Depends on how I feel this gam- Wait, this is a quote wall, ****, moving on!
She doesn't have to know. We can be together!
You're only proving my point! You rascal.

Not feeling in the useless question or screwing around mood but:
Here!
Also here!
Depends.
Stop cheating.
What are you even TALKING about? You would DARE trample on my sacred feelings? :0(

Kuz seems pretty town, I'm feeling you (Asdioh) as town, Soup I've elaborated, feeling something on gut from Kantrip (interesting enough to keep an eye over), Not enough content from a few players stated over and over (Where's Gova and July?) as it's mostly the same ones, and FM's doing his usual screwing around on D1.
Now you dare to slander my name! Good sir! Good sir, I am appalled at your behavior tonight! At least I'm not a Lyncher acting like a Jester this time! I would hope you'd give me more credit, since these matters are of utmost importance to my outlook and reliance on you as a contributing player in this game.

Why are the rest of these your reads asides from Soup like this then. Elaborate in an essay. Did you get a parrot to look over the thread for you. SPEAK, PEASANT GIRL!

I currently have a slight town read on this Thirdkoopa fellow. My gut tells me this is more of his town self, but alas, it is only a young D1, so curious and naive about the world around it.
 

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Will elaborate tommorow.
Obvtown status achieved.



In all seriousness though I have to finish up a paper for tomorrow so I'm also out. If im not on tomorrow then thats because its friday and I will be ****ed up at some frat house. Probs Saturday.
 

July

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Here's a question for you: if, near the end of D1, I think that the potential lynchee is town, I will do my best to change the lynch to an inactive, assuming we have an extremely inactive player, who shows no signs of improving. My reasoning for this is because D1 lynches often are mislynches, and after seeing what happened D1 in Pokemafia, as opposed to what happend D1 in Mindgamed Mafia (in the disco room) I am very content lynching inactives.
The question: is this scummy?

Actually, that's a bad question. But it's what I plan on doing if I don't agree with the potential D1 lynch.
Inactivity/replacements have definitely become more of a problem lately, but I'm still hesitant about lynching an inactive, especially in a smaller game like this. If there is an extremely inactive player, usually they get replaced and I'm fine with that. I have more of an issue with people who don't want to replace but are fully aware that they aren't contributing and can't keep up with the game and thus pop in here and there to say hi but don't actually scumhunt. I don't find your wanting to lynch an inactive over a town pick scummy if you can't get the lynch you want, but it's a decision I hate resorting to because it's so often a shot in the dark.
 

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Lol Soup, Asdioh requested I multipost and its not something I've done before...consider it a style experiment for me just until I catch up.
 

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@FragMental: Do you have confidence in your ability to read thethirdkoopa?

Thirdkoopa, same question for you wrt FragMental.
 

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@FragMental, do you have any other reads you could share besides your slight town on ttk?
Slight town on Kuz, Asdioh, and yourself at the moment for actually contributing a wide array of discussion leading us onwards to victory over the beast that is RVS.

Fynal is null leaning sorta slightish town. I've yet to fully grasp a read on this one, but he seems fair enough after that last wall to me for the time being.

Soupysoup is pretty null to me. Maybe because I've never seen him play before or because I myself do not expand on my reads much either earlygame for being so abstract and filthily threaded, so I may relate with such semantics. A close eye is on this one as an information gold mine though, considering all the discussion that is ever-present.

The rest of you are null as dull as a banana roll to me at the moment, though the better of the nulls of the dulls of the banana rolls shall be Armor for his presence.
 

July

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Slight townread on Kuz, just gut feeling though... Not sure whether this discussion about the moderator doing drugs to confirm alignments will bring us anywhere, hum. Very different type of atmosphere here from what I'm usually dealing with though, so it's a very slight read.

Mr. The T. Koopa gets the embodiment of all my hatred and scumreads for being a little peasant girl who does drugs in his spare time. But I suppose I may give a benefit of the doubt to one who smokes like "a ****ing dragon" in his spare time. I will wait until he starts amassing substantial walls of text that can be summed up in three or less sentences, then I will analyze him from there.
Is this paragraph just saying that you have a null read on thethirdkoopa at the time? You say that you will give him the benefit of the doub despite being the embodiment of all your hatred/scumreads, but you list nothing scummy about him (other than him being a little peasant girl on drugs?) so I'm getting mixed signals from this post about your read.
 

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@FragMental: Do you have confidence in your ability to read thethirdkoopa?
I possess the ability to read him better than anyone else here, I'd think. As for confidence... I would ordain a sufficient amount is in order for knowing him personally enough.
 

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Is this paragraph just saying that you have a null read on thethirdkoopa at the time? You say that you will give him the benefit of the doub despite being the embodiment of all your hatred/scumreads, but you list nothing scummy about him (other than him being a little peasant girl on drugs?) so I'm getting mixed signals from this post about your read.
I was playing around with the fellow. But at the time of that post, I had a dull as null read on him, pretty much.
 

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1. Radical Fiction (2) - Asdioh, Kantrip
2. th3kuzinator (1) - Soupamario
3. Fynal
4. July (1) -Gova
5. Soupamario (2) - Radical Fiction, Fynal
6. thethirdkoopa (1) - FragMental
7. Kantrip
8. FragMental
9. Gova (1) - Armor
10. Armor
11. Asdioh

Not Voting: July, thethirdkoopa, th3kuzinator

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch!
 

July

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@Asdioh
I assume you mean inactive not lurker right? theyre different

Saying that inactives are autoscum doesn't make any sense, people are inactive for un-alignment-related reasons (like lazyness or workload) which means if yer gonna lynch an inactive like that you'd better be pretty damn sure the potential lynchee is town and everyone is wrong, because the inactive has a ~8/11 (3 scum in 11 player game? gotta be roughly that) chance to be town anyway.
I agree with this, and I like the fact that you differentiate between lurker and inactive. What are your thoughts on lurkers? Would you lynch a lurker at the end of the Day to save a town read?
 

Fynal

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finished my reading/thinking/english homework for the night

current reads:

Kantrip: town. i like his play, it feels genuine.

Armor: scummy. his votes are stupid and he's made no effort to contribute scumhunting. I feel like he's either town and has just given up after ragnarok (but then why did he choose to play?) or he's scum trying to get away with doing nothing on precept of hating inactives. he goes pretty overboard with it. would not argue against his lynch toDay. FoS: Armor

TTK/FM: both null. their play is silly. I want to feel like scum wouldn't risk that, but that leads to instant WIFOM. FM's reactions to kuz's RQS being townie isn't clicking with me.

RF: null. swiss's trap for soup is a dead null, it feels like something swiss would do as either alignment. I don't like his inactivity lasting precisely until armor votes him, and then his reaction is a countervote until armor removes his vote and nothing more. But the timing can be coincidence and his lack of immediate content can be his ego not willing to do something because of some nub's post or something like that.

Kuz: town. good vibes from his play. feels similar to previous townkuz experience.

Soup: must see his response first

Asdioh: dude needs to post more. some town vibes and some scum vibes, as i posted sometime back.
@Asdioh: up to date thoughts/reads pl0x?

July: sup!

Gova: needs more posts
 

July

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I don't much like Soupa's #88, shown below:



This post looks like fake contributing. Stating his town read in armor with a question mark and being very on the fence. This could validate non-commitment and wish-washiness in the future if left unnoticed. The one post Soup liked was the same one he viewed as possibly scummy.

Everything in this post just creates WIFOM scenarios in my eyes. Enough so to warrant an Unvote from my RVS vote and a Vote: Soupamario.

@Soup, give me something you're committed too. I'd like to see if you've formed any solid opinions yet.
What do you think of Soup's #165? I'll address my own opinions on Soup's #88 in my next post (this multiposting thing is harder than I thought it would be lol)
 

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@July: I wouldn't lynch someone just because they were lurking. If someones lurking, it means they are posting stuff, just not very much stuff, and I'd need to analyze what little they do post just as much as i'd need to analyze what a normal person posts. If theyre really lurking you can look at what kind of content theyre dodging, etc

inactive just means practically zero posts. see gova this game, or that ridiculous Gatlin-then-UTDZac-then-TeryWJ slot in newbie12, which had 2 replacements due to inactivity and still only about 15 posts total in a 2k post game.
 

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@July; I generally liked Soupa's #165. I'm glad he presented reads to us, though I didn't like how long they took. Soup answered that already though. His Asdioh and kuz town reads are agreeable and understandable. I'm fine with most of his other reads as well, although I don't quite agree with ttk or Fynal as his two vote options. TTK is just too null from what I've seen so far, and Fynal seems town to me from his recent posts. It's a fine and legitimate post, altogether.
 

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Hey guys, how awkward would it be if I replaced out?

:teehee:

Reading now.
 

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I am very confused with this Frag/Koopa relationship. If there's something I need to know, please tell me.
 

July

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I...like armor? I'm not sure with armor, quite yet, I want to call him town but I want to eat my own words.

I like his "okay guys serious time" but when I look at his posts they're not as serious as they seem, I want to see what armor will be doing before I make a legit judgement.

Same goes here, his vote on armor seems warranted, but I know I'm going to be able to drag an explanation out of them.
I agree with Kantrip that this post seems fence-sitty, but I also dislike how he devotes soo much effort into saying that armor is essentially null yet puts NO effort into a read on Radical Fiction. And by saying he has a null read on Armor, I mean his message is so convoluted that I don't know what he actually means. He says he wants to call armor town, he likes that he wants to focus but then when his posts aren't as serious as they seem which he seems to dislike, although he doesn't say that its particularly scummy. Then he says that RF's vote on armor seems warranted, which infers that armor has done something to merit a vote, but then he says it was warranted because RF is using scare tactics to get a read out of him, which he could have done with anyone so its not accurate to say that a vote on armor specifically was warranted.

I also don't understand his read on RF, since he says the vote on armor seems warranted, but that he won't be able to drag an explanation out of him...which means he must want an explanation from them, but instead of asking he just assumes what RF's vote means, which isn't scumhunting or even trying to gain information.
 

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inactive just means practically zero posts. see gova this game, or that ridiculous Gatlin-then-UTDZac-then-TeryWJ slot in newbie12, which had 2 replacements due to inactivity and still only about 15 posts total in a 2k post game.
Just out of curiosity, was that slot scum in that game?
If so, y u no lynch?
If not, what a waste.

Asdioh: dude needs to post more. some town vibes and some scum vibes, as i posted sometime back.
@Asdioh: up to date thoughts/reads pl0x?
I always post a lot. I even have the third most posts in this thread, predictably after Kuz and Soup. (I would be 4th if J was in this game)
When did you post anything about scum vibes from me? :O


Not gonna give any more town reads unless I need to.

Scum reads, less than 48 hours into the game:

RF: has done little of value, not to mention that they've done literally nothing on their hydra. Seems to expect to survive on ego alone, and that's not going to fly with me.

Gova: he's not actually scum. Or is he? The world may never know... a cop investigation on him wouldn't be a complete waste, I feel.

Frag and Koopa are weird. I'm more inclined to believe Koopa is scum of the two, because s/he's less willing to put himself/herself out there, it seems.

Will post tomorrow when I'm more coherent. I'm liking July's (attempt at) multiposting, it makes it easier to see her individual responses and thought process as she goes through the thread.
 

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Because he could have easily agreed with FM on a slight town read on me with little repercussion. He's trying to make sure others are cautious when reading me as being too hasty often gets you thrown under a bus, especially when dealing with me.

Because of the experience Asdioh himself has had with being thrown under a bus, I liked his though process to reprimand FM. Seems like something townAsdioh would be wary about while scumAsdioh wouldn't concern himself with it.
Mmm, I guess I can see this. One of my peeves was that Asdioh and Soup and whoever else is new always find you town for literally no reason so it made it hard for me to get you lynched. AKA Ducktales. :glare:

@Gova: Thoughts on Kantrip.
As of that post, he was null. But he can be town now. I think he pointed out something about Asdioh's reads which made me think he's town.

That post looks much more like the townFynal I know.
Where did you see Fynal as town? Skype? Disco room? Aim? I don't recall him being town in any Dgames.

Also, Kuz, so your read on Soup is town? BTW GUYS, if Soup dies and flips the alignment Kuz said he wasn't, Kuz is scum. I mean Ducktales and Ongoing game mafia right? Maybe you wouldn't do the same thing three times. :teehee:


@TTK & FM, please stop talking to each other like that. I skipped over a few of your posts because I don't understand what you're saying and it just looks fake which is making it hard for me to get reads on you two.
 

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If it was practically anyone but Kuz posting like that, I'd read him as town for sure. However, Kuz generally knows what he's doing as scum, so I'm not gonna completely trust him just yet. At the same time, I have no inclination to lynch him right now.
As odd as it sounds I understand this, I have Kuz as a town read, cautiously though for fear of getting burned.
 

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Pro tip, just read Kuz as scum until he does something that as town that he possibly couldn't fake.

Because like, if you cop him and you get an inno, he's indy.

:teehee:
 

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Pro tip, just read Kuz as scum until he does something that as town that he possibly couldn't fake.

Because like, if you cop him and you get an inno, he's indy.

:teehee:
stealing my thunder, I wanted to call him indy at some point.
 

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QUOTE=Kantrip;13358704]Kuz, I'm fine with lynching the same people as you generally, though I would much rather one of the first 2 than one of the second two.

I believe that either Radical Fiction or Soupa are scum. The conversation on this page just looks SvT to me, though I'm having trouble deciphering which is which. I'll await Soup's answers as well, though I'm thinking that he's scum over RF. I haven't seen enough from RF (especially IN hyrda) to cement anything about my reads.

@Gova/July: If either of you happen to read this, could we have some reads or stances from you, please?[/QUOTE]

After RF posts again I would like you to update for us which you feel between RF and Soup is more likely scum, based on their interactions as well as their individual play.
 

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EBWOP: Qutoation fail ;-; but also to answer your question, yes, I will provide a list of my reads at the end of catching up tonight.
 

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@FragMental: Do you have confidence in your ability to read thethirdkoopa?

Thirdkoopa, same question for you wrt FragMental.
I do believe I have a pretty good confidence at reading over his Meta at least more than anyone else here.

@thethirdkoopa, voting rad fic because I still think Swiss vs Soupa seemed like SvT. Considering Soup's been looking a little more town, my vote went to Rad Fic. Swiss appeared to be leading Soup into an answer. When Soup gave this answer, Swiss voted for him. This just doesn't seem right.
SvT?
And interesting. Why did you never elaborate on that in your vote post?

Why are the rest of these your reads asides from Soup like this then. Elaborate in an essay. Did you get a parrot to look over the thread for you. SPEAK, PEASANT GIRL!
Kuz's RQS falls under "It's pretty legitimate" in pretty varied with moving discussion over. Asdioh is harder to say, more of a gut feeling.
Katnip's replies in-general from the quick read (mostly over the last few pages) just seem across as interesting.

I am very confused with this Frag/Koopa relationship. If there's something I need to know, please tell me.
Uh, all the references honestly come from other communities and would honestly take a while to tell, either that or it's just us spamming/screwing around.

What else would you like to know? I have nothing to hide.

Frag and Koopa are weird. I'm more inclined to believe Koopa is scum of the two, because s/he's less willing to put himself/herself out there, it seems.
I'll admit I haven't put myself out there much but when it comes to newer places I generally get a bit, uncomforted, as a good word to put it?

And the rest is just screwing around. (With those specific posts)

@TTK & FM, please stop talking to each other like that..
Sure.
 

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So you guys know each other from somewhere? I've never seen either of you before, so I wouldn't know.
 
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