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Awkward Moments Mafia - Game over! Scum wins! Will a SD game ever see a town victory?

#HBC | ѕoup

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no, it was the opposite, i didn't want to out at all, kuz forced it, i was hoping to just self out it when i felt comfortable.
 

Fynal

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so, you were hoping that if kuz was town, he'd act differently towards you than usual but not pressure you for your significant shift in playstyle?
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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so, you were hoping that if kuz was town, he'd act differently towards you than usual but not pressure you for your significant shift in playstyle?
more or less to get a more solid read, it's not the full basis.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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full basis is that kuz was pretty townie in itself with both meta applied and how he is playing, but as mentioned by many he is good at faking it, i needed an extra push or something that wasn't less suspectable that he would either fall into or pretty much ignore, but sense kuz caught onto it i got what i wanted from him.
 

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@Armor: Since you say they can't be scum together, which of RF or Soup is most likely to pop scum?
RF
@Armor: 198. Specifically what you think about Gova because you havn't clarified.
FUU. I went out of my way to quote the question and never answered, my bad.
When I was given that question, I thought he was coasting scum. After the input he gave, I've almost changed my mind completely. I earnestly hope he continues to post.

Unvote; Vote: Soupamario
Did you just move your vote from soup to soup? Lol.
Lol@Asdioh+Swiss.
@RF: Where you be at, son?
Soup: Did you gain anything spectacular from the gambit?
@Fynal: Lots of questions about Soup's gambit, what's your read on Soup after it?
Unh I kinda wanted to do more with this post, but I g2g.
/doridori
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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yes, a solidified and backed up town read on kuz.

by using PoE, the lynch category now should be

RF>TTK>Gova>July.

i don't have a read on july or gova yet, i've been to busy foddering with this ****.
 

Fynal

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but sense kuz caught onto it i got what i wanted from him.
I'm kinda pissed because kuz is a pushing prick and didn't let me lurk longer, to be honest.
this doesn't add up. kuz caught on, you got what you wanted, and that pisses you off because you got what you wanted too fast?

@armor: derpderpderpderpderpderp im trying to figure out my read on soup, hence the questions. also i asked him what you asked him a while back and have been discussing his answer
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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i got what i wanted but i was hoping kuz didn't grill me, i wanted to self-out after i felt comfortable to do so.
 

th3kuzinator

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Soup your gambit was terrible and accomplished absolutely nothing except lead us in a circle questioning your fabricated motives.

But that makes you town.
 

Fynal

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ok.

unvote

soup isn't scum. his thought process, while a little flawed imo, makes sense to me, coming from him.

kuz convince me of RF's scummyness. I don't know ryker at all and barely know swiss.
 

Fynal

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badly worded lol. it makes sense in the sense that i can understand townsoup doing what he did
 

Asdioh

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You know what's better than link.gif?

unvote
Vote: Radical Fiction


 

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I think Soupa is town, but that gambit was pretty bad.

@Fynal, who is your biggest scumread at this point?
 

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Even though I already had a town read on Kantrip, it was further solidified when I noticed his location just now, which matches his avatar.

This is a fun game, I think.
 

th3kuzinator

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Oh god the hamburger.

It's also fun because town is being active and games are always more interesting when we make scum squirm a bit before lynching em. That and cuz I'm in it and I'm always fun.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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Soup your gambit was terrible and accomplished absolutely nothing except lead us in a circle questioning your fabricated motives.

But that makes you town.
**** you for being an impatient prick and making a change in play be some sort of scum-tell, seriously **** you.
 

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The Soup gambit thing does not affect my read on Kuz at all and I don't think it is conclusive, BUT...I can see town intent behind it. He thought it would help scumhunt on Kuz and saw it through, so I give him credit for that.

@TTK: Thoughts on Soup/Fynal interaction and read on Soup?
 

th3kuzinator

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**** you for having wishy washy stances and posting way to cautiously to make me read you as scum. Then also **** you for lying when I gave you a chance to come clean because I assumed you were cooking up something dumb. **** you for then telling me that I'm impatient while all I did was read you as I normally would.

You're the one playing badly, don't blame me for playing the game.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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To be honest, it wasn't even a gambit, it wasn't an experiment, kuz is just a ****ing prick and can't let someone try to change his playstyle for a minute so when he started doing what he does i had to change it into a gambit which i didn't even ****ing like in the first place.
 

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The Soup gambit thing does not affect my read on Kuz at all and I don't think it is conclusive, BUT...I can see town intent behind it. He thought it would help scumhunt on Kuz and saw it through, so I give him credit for that.
If you had actually thought that Soup's gambit on me proved anything I would have been very worried.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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**** you for having wishy washy stances and posting way to cautiously to make me read you as scum. Then also **** you for lying when I gave you a chance to come clean because I assumed you were cooking up something dumb. **** you for then telling me that I'm impatient while all I did was read you as I normally would.

You're the one playing badly, don't blame me for playing the game.
they weren't even ****ing wishy-washy, i outted every read you wanted out of me, you shoulda been ****ing happy, you're just impatient and every has to be delievered at the ****ing second, i told people i still don't have full reads so i would prefer to stay silent, but nooooo
 

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I still don't really understand what Soup's gambit was, and the Soup/Fynal interaction was tl;dr, but who cares, I still think Soup's town.

Kuz is also town, unless of course he survives past N1. :mistyface:

Kuz, are all those asterisks in Soup's posts town tells?
 

th3kuzinator

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To be honest, it wasn't even a gambit, it wasn't an experiment, kuz is just a ****ing prick and can't let someone try to change his playstyle for a minute so when he started doing what he does i had to change it into a gambit which i didn't even ****ing like in the first place.
You're an absolute idiot. I didn't think you were scum because of the change of playstyle, there were multiple things that I didn't like about your PLAY which I called you out on. Not to mention that contradiction before you explained wtf you were doing was so grimey.

Then lying about it when confronted made it all better.

Like, seriously?
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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You're an absolute idiot. I didn't think you were scum because of the change of playstyle, there were multiple things that I didn't like about your PLAY which I called you out on. Not to mention that contradiction before you explained wtf you were doing was so grimey.

Then lying about it when confronted made it all better.

Like, seriously?
most of your complaints is my change of play-style and me not dropping your oh so important town-tells.
 

th3kuzinator

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they weren't even ****ing wishy-washy, i outted every read you wanted out of me, you shoulda been ****ing happy, you're just impatient and every has to be delievered at the ****ing second, i told people i still don't have full reads so i would prefer to stay silent, but nooooo
Here were the reads you gave us.

Armor is town? Yeah lets go with that. Everyone else is a giant null sandwich. Except fynal which I kind of don't like but won't discuss unless Kuz ****ing DRAGS the read out of me with pressure votes.

Yeah I should have really been happy with that.

If anything I'm moving at a much slower pace than I normally do when I'm into a game. You should be thankful I'm not policy lynching you right now for lying twice and that your stupid town intent shone through your play.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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i gave you your reads you wanted, they weren't even close to when i wanted to out them, you don't seem to ****ing care who else lurks, why me?
 

th3kuzinator

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Enough of this conversation, we're both town anyway. Just know that you're being very dumb and you're lucky I'm good at reading intent.
 

#HBC | ѕoup

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you're not good at anything, you push **** too much and can't seem to admit you were wrong for treating me differently because of fallacy meta which i know you had, like i said, anyone else can lurk but me, it's a ****ing conspiracy i tell you.
 

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stop arguing or I'll keep trolling the thread.

@Gova: reads on Soup, Kuz, and RF?
 

th3kuzinator

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you're not good at anything, you push **** too much and can't seem to admit you were wrong for treating me differently because of fallacy meta which i know you had, like i said, anyone else can lurk but me, it's a ****ing conspiracy i tell you.
I would be mad if this was coming from anyone but Soup.

lol
 

th3kuzinator

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You're right.

I was wrong in thinking you could actually have improved as a player during your hiatus.

:teehee:

Gova can I use that?
 
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