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Ew, multiple dopplegangers?
 

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Could they Trela flash? That's how you authenticate the real one.
 

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...why do people ruin things?
 

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I will ruin it further.


Doesn't the notion of "Trela Flash" outside of context sound a little... obscene?
 

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So many things about smash or smasher culture/idiosyncrasy sound odd or plain offensive out of context.
 

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Can you even infract yourself?
 

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Sorry if I'm being srsbsns in a Social thread, but I felt like just putting this out, for anyone struggling in the matchup

It's risky, but grabbing one of the ICs actually yields a good reward, just because of how **** fast our pummel is.

- If you grab Popo, pummel to knock Nana away, Bthrow Popo, proceed to SHDair/Dsmash/Fsmash/Shipposmash/w.esmash Nana as she runs past you.
- If you grab Nana, pummel to knock Popo away, throw Nana off the stage(if you don't get her offstage after the first throw, run after her and Fthrow her ***), proceed to gimp Nana.
 

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srs business and silliness are interchangable.

also remember that ICs can't sidestep and both be invincible at the same time

I forget how much the difference between popo and nana was but I know its enough for ZSS grab to be realllly goood agaisnt them just due how to meaty it is
 

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Something else I'd like to put out there. Dedede MAY actually have a certain edge over ICs as well. I know it sounds silly, but...

I had the fortune of facing Vinnie in a Random money match. Unluckily for me, he got ICs, while I got Dedede. I tried using my aggro grab strategies like I always do against ICs, and, well... Dedede's grab range is so huge... and Fthrow, Bthrow, and Dthrow are all so fast... plus they actually knock away the other climber, opening up a world of possibilities, similar to how Lucario can open up the ICs with his pummel. I'm not sure if Vinnie just never experienced a Dedede playstyle like that(because really, who would go aggro grab against ICs; it looks like the scariest thing in the world to do), or if this actually works on the ICs, but I consistently killed off Vinnie's secondary climber really quickly on each of his stocks.

Definitely something to think about.

Protip: Vinnie still beat me with Popo alone because I don't know how to actually use Dedede.

-___ -;

Dedede/ICs matchup: +4 Dedede's favor
Dedede/Popo matchup: +4 Popo's favor
 

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I sort of do the same thing against ICs too, John. I'll run up and quickly Fthrow whichever IC I grab lol and then go from there. I've never really tried pummeling them before so I'll try it out the next time I get to play one of them. I honestly don't find it that hard to get a grab on one of them either, ESPECIALLY if you're playing an ICs main who thinks that ISSDI completely DESTROYS us. *coughicspanelcough*
 

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I sort of do the same thing against ICs too, John. I'll run up and quickly Fthrow whichever IC I grab lol and then go from there. I've never really tried pummeling them before so I'll try it out the next time I get to play one of them. I honestly don't find it that hard to get a grab on one of them either, ESPECIALLY if you're playing an ICs main who thinks that ISSDI completely DESTROYS us. *coughicspanelcough*
It was my least favorite panel to debate with.

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I think I can ban myself, I don't wanna do that though since I'm not allowed to do that as is unless it is porn, an Alt, or a Bot.
 

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I wish I could have helped :<

wait... if they think ISSDI destroys us they must be assuming we're just throwing out fsmash right? lol.
 

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From what I heard, it was...fascinating. And not the good kind of fascinating.
 

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They have been going well, though I'm not gonna spoil any results yet other than the one that someone leaked.

I wish I could have helped :<

wait... if they think ISSDI destroys us they must be assuming we're just throwing out fsmash right? lol.
IRL play vs Paper play.

The debate!

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Also when they do MU chart 3.0, which won't be for months in the future if not half a year, I'll props ask the same people if not on #Lucario/in the Luc backroom.
 

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fsmash has always been a bad move to throw out for the sake of throwing out, you should think about using it for an opportunity, not for its relative safety.

I sort of do the same thing against ICs too, John. I'll run up and quickly Fthrow whichever IC I grab lol and then go from there. I've never really tried pummeling them before so I'll try it out the next time I get to play one of them. I honestly don't find it that hard to get a grab on one of them either, ESPECIALLY if you're playing an ICs main who thinks that ISSDI completely DESTROYS us. *coughicspanelcough*
Yes, fthrow is so good in the MU.
 
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