Attn Marth Mains: Please Help Me In My Research Project

[Vayseth]

Hello everyone! I am currently doing a research project on Brawl for members of the smash lab. They have a couple ideas going around in there and I wanted to test a few of them out for myself. Therefore if you guys would not mind, I would appreciate it if you would help me out.

I would like you, since you know your characters better than I do (probably), to tell me in quick bullet points what the most annoying things for you to play against. I am talking about aspects of match ups that change how the match up plays out. Examples of this would be King Dedede’s standing infinite on Bowser, DK, Mario, Luigi, Samus and himself or grab releases like Marth on Ness/Lucas or Wario’s grab release shenanigans. Basically, anything match up specific where one character has a great advantage over the other character simply because of that move/moves. There’s plenty out there but I want to make sure I have them all! Please list them for me!

Thank you!

Problems:
-Grab Releases on ness, Lucas, Squirtle, Wario
-Forward throw to tipped dair on space animals

 

[Shaya]

Besides the grab releases on Ness, Lucas, Squirtle
and Wario, Metaknight...

And the fthrow to tipper dair (0-death) on the spacies...

nothing, really.

 

[Remzi]

Shaya, he wants the things that go against us, not the things that work for us.

All I can really think of is that trying to recover from long distances against a good Meta is almost hopeless.

 

[Shaya]

Oops. My bad.

What goes against us hey...

Nothing. That's why our worst match up is 40:60.

MK has the dtilt/ftilt range and dair. (Dair can **** us up hard).

Then there's Snake...
Ftilt range angers us, grenades anger us.

Then there's D3
Chaingrab can anger us... ftilt can anger us, ff bair can anger Viet. D3's bair is harsh in general though.

Thats about the worst I can really think of...

 

[Pierce7d]

Eh, I get annoyed at DKs amazingness, D3's Bair, and MK's Dair. That's about it.

 

[NeverKnowsBest]

Pierce7d is a poop head for taking me out at CH 4.5.

Marth is cool.

 

[Freezewish]

I cant really think of anything at the moment.If I do i'll edit my post.

Marth is a very solid character in this game so there isnt really much that a good player cant get around.
He has a great poking move in dtilt, Dancing blade to punish the opponent's mistakes and rack up quick damage, and Dolphin Slash and its invincibilty frames allow marth to get out of certain situations that other characters cant.(D3's chaingrab, Mk's nado)
Basically Marth has the tools to cover almost any situation which reduces alot of threats.

I just find it annoying that Mk's dtilt and ftilt outrange Marth's and Meta has a shorter sword. =/

 

[Pierce7d]

Oh, I guess Shuttle Loop really shuts down Marth's ability to approach from the air if MK uses it as a DP OOS.

 

[Emblem Lord]

hahahah.

Dragon punch.

Cute.

 

[BacklashMarth]

ROB outranging pretty much everything marth has is pretty annoying (gyro and lazers. Mk, outranging anything with his ****** sword is also annoying. DK thinking he can cargo spike me and i wont tech it and dair him is annoying (bair and tilts are also "omg plz stop") . ZSS makes it hard to get in close with that d*** whip and stun lazer and the lightning jab. Snake..........just him being in brawl is a no-no >.<

 

[Vayseth]

Shaya, he wants the things that go against us, not the things that work for us.

All I can really think of is that trying to recover from long distances against a good Meta is almost hopeless.

Honestly, I would like both. I'm sorry that wasn't clear. I usually get that stuff in other character discussion threads, but you guys know Marth better than anyone.

 

[∫unk]

Nah I just pretend.

 

[smasher?o.0]

projectiles that are fast (pit)

 

[feardragon64]

Marth doesn't have much going against him because DS is a good "reset an unfavorable situation usually. Marth has the cg's on spacies, earthbounders, and grab releases. Other than that...not really.

 

[VietGeek]

Nah I just pretend.

I used to do this but recently just admitted I know nothing about Marth.

I actually play Toon Link.