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Atlantic North *Pound* 4 Crew

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CT Chia

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Look at matchups. The roster overall could potentially have a problem with DDDs. The flaws of ICs are there, but that just means you should use one, not like 8 of em. Meep could still go in on a 3 stock opponent opponent, get the stage he wants, and 3 or 2 stock them depending on the matchup. You also then need to bring him in on a time where the opponent doesn't have as many opponents left that have characters that can **** CP him. CPing Olimar and ICs isn't as awful as it seems. Also be weary of Diddys on the opposing team (something Boss can take care of). The two I would highly suggest putting on there would be PS and Meep.
 

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I love Chibo soooo much. I think he literally makes a hobby out of disagreeing with me and reporting my posts. Get over your vendetta, buddy. :laugh:

Look at matchups.
Been there, done that.

The roster overall could potentially have a problem with DDDs.
Only Fatal has a problem with Dedede. Ally and Candy are both incredible at that match-up and won't be having any Dedede problems. As for the other characters, none of them lose to Dedede. ChuDat is great at the match-up. Snakeee is. Everyone is except for Fatal. Thankfully, the amount of good Dededes is quite low.

The flaws of ICs are there, but that just means you should use one, not like 8 of em. Meep could still go in on a 3 stock opponent opponent, get the stage he wants, and 3 or 2 stock them depending on the matchup. You also then need to bring him in on a time where the opponent doesn't have as many opponents left that have characters that can **** CP him. CPing Olimar and ICs isn't as awful as it seems.
Meep is good and ICs are gay as hell on neutrals, but threestock somebody? We're talking about the best of the best here. Meep would be very weak against the Midwest team and somewhat weak against the South team. I could see him owning some West Coast, but Tyrant took a game from him and took him to last stock on neutrals with little understanding of the match-up. Nobody is going to be ***** that hard by Meep. After he wins, it's GGs for him on something like Brinstar or Rainbow Cruise.

Meep is probably not going. Meep said he was taking a break regardless, which is going to make him rusty. Meep's had a negative attitude about Brawl for a while.

The team will be just fine without him.

Also be weary of Diddys on the opposing team (something Boss can take care of). The two I would highly suggest putting on there would be PS and Meep.
So can...the rest of the team. We all know Anti, Ally, Atomsk, Snakeee, and others know that match-up very well. Only ChuDat is actually kinda bad at it. The Diddy Kongs to worry about...are on our team. Gnes and AlphaZealot are the other ones, and someone like Anti, Ally, or Atomsk will mop the floor with them.

LOL.

Umm.......
Prove it.

I wasn't blind enough like you recently to go around saying Midwest is somehow the best region above Atlantic North when everyone knows Atlantic North is the best by a massive amount. That ain't bias. It's fact.
 

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I rather just watch the crew battle then actually be apart of it anyway. I don't want to be the one to blame incase I mess up. Besides, theres definitely 10 people in Atl North that would be a smarter choice then a Lucario.
 

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Snakeee should not be on the team, what's he done recently, and I mean ****ing recently to prove he's a dominating force? ZZS isn't gonna give anyone an edge, like you said its the best of the best and he's not in that league.

Boss, NL(he'll use Diddy n ROB I am sure) and June are better picks.
 

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Snakeee should not be on the team, what's he done recently, and I mean ****ing recently to prove he's a dominating force? ZZS isn't gonna give anyone an edge, like you said its the best of the best and he's not in that league.

Boss, NL(he'll use Diddy n ROB I am sure) and June are better picks.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=247963&highlight=Snakeee

^ Recent and amazing.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=250290&highlight=Snakeee
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=244350&highlight=Snakeee

Dude is still mad good and always has been. He told me he plays a lot up where he is now. He's my partner for Pound 4 and we are definitely taking top three. :)

The ZSS wtf factor plus his skill makes him valuable.
 

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i don't think i'll be going, but if i do, i'd probably be using wario, not mk.
just to clear that up, inui, lol.
If you're going to use your Wario (which is as good as your MK for sure imo) and you actually show up and have a positive attitude (no quitting and unquitting constantly and saying everything sucks blah blah), then we might use you.
 

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@AZ: You're my dude and all, but Inui is right. ATL North is currently far stronger than Midwest. We have players in our region that can stand up to Car Insurance combo (Anti/ADHD/Ally/Atomsk), but outside of that...they have Neo, Chu, Candy or Shadow, Ksizzle, NinjaLink; we have Y.b.M., you, Kel, BR, maybe Infern or Arty. Most of our players aren't as statistically/factually strong as their tops. It's POSSIBLE but unlikely. Players who go to multiple nationals and do well regionally > players who just do well regionally, in a probability sense. I have faith in Midwest, no doubt, but ATL North will be a SUPER tough cookie for us to crack.

BTW, for reference purposes, this is probably going to be the Midwest crew (though Inui, you and I already talked about this over AIM):

Lain
Anther
Judge
M2K
AlphaZealot
Y.b.M.
Kel
Blue Rogue (if he goes)

ALTS: Arty, Infern?
 

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Got it. I've been checking around. I know who the South is using too. Southwest and Atlantic South are fusing together due to their lack of top players that actually travel. Getting out of both FL and TX is actually extremely hard given how their states are in terms of location and geography.

It's probably going to be Atlantic North (aka East Coast), Midwest, South, and West Coast. Likely a round robin type format? That's what I'd do.
 
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IMO:

M2K
Ally
ADHD
Anti
NEO
Azen
Fatal
Atomsk

Are pretty much required. Get as many of these players as possible first.
 

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I really like how we were able to solve this in 2-3 hours, while the south is arguing over who has best R.O.B. LOL

We're winning this. ~_~ Anyone know what WC has discussed?
 

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We have the largest amount of top players to pool from. It was actually pretty hard for me to decide, and I'm still open to suggestions.

WC is using the players we'd expect.
 

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How has this finished being discussed? There are plenty of top players who will be offering their input I am sure, Inui isn't making the final calls and there is still over a Month until Pound 4 anyway.
 

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Kinda upset with all the disagreeing with me being on the list. I got 9th at SNES, place good at every NJ/NY tournament I enter and win 90% of NE Tournaments, If I play in the battle you'll see why I was chosen.. but w.e
 

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I really like how we were able to solve this in 2-3 hours, while the south is arguing over who has best R.O.B. LOL

We're winning this. ~_~ Anyone know what WC has discussed?
Guessing all Socal, DSF (moved to norcal, now 1st on PR), and Michael Hey (best DI in the world)
 

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Kinda upset with all the disagreeing with me being on the list. I got 9th at SNES, place good at every NJ/NY tournament I enter and win 90% of NE Tournaments, If I play in the battle you'll see why I was chosen.. but w.e
I know, I know, which is why I picked you and why I need to be captain. I actually pay attention to results from anything and everything and know what's up. You will definitely be in this and I have full confidence in you.
 

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inui have me in to **** any falco.

i wood love to be in the crew. i just learned the IC 0 to death. i mess up once in a life time now and unlike meep i play a ton of charecters such as ZSS
SNAKE
MK
DDD
DIDDY
ROB
WARIO

i wish getting a spot wood be easy. im joking about getting in. and i think using cable is a phenominal idea. and besides that i find nothing wrong with the list. except for snakee. hes an alright player but just bcuz he "*****" md/va doesnt mean he'll do good vs all other regions. but then again i could be wrong.

never hurts to have some i kon around.
 

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I knew your post would be you asking to be in it as soon as I saw that you posted. Sorry, but you're nowhere near the level required yet. :( I hope you're actually joking, lol.

Nobody should sleep on Snakeee. The dude's a beast when he doesn't have to face his brother. :laugh:
 

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Inui, I definitely don't think you should be crew captain for the east coast, nor will I allow it.

I heard that you made HORRIBLE decisions during crews at Genesis. You sent in Atomsk and Mew2king FIRST with the intent of "having a powerful lead". It worked out horribly and we lost crews because of that, not because of Pierces cockyness.

No offense, but you should let intelligent top players like P~S, Candy, myself, and Atomsk lead the Atlantic North crew. (I'm sure there are more intelligent top players that could help, but I don't really know you guys so I can't say. Just speak up if you have input [TOP PLAYERS ONLY] )

I like how you are taking initiative to create discussion on this subject and I completely agree with most of your decisions. Good job. Except, Meep is going to be on the crew. Don't be foolish. Also, I think we need more Metaknights on this crew.
 

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cool, im not THAT good. D:

list looks pretty solid. Atlantic north has a lot of good players though, so a number of the spots look switch-able.
 

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Inui, I definitely don't think you should be crew captain for the east coast, nor will I allow it.
Good luck with that.

I heard that you made HORRIBLE decisions during crews at Genesis. You sent in Atomsk and Mew2king FIRST with the intent of "having a powerful lead". It worked out horribly and we lost crews because of that, not because of Pierces cockyness.
No, my decisions were perfect. We had a severely crippled team, that's why we lost, and that's why I needed to build a strong initial lead for us. I called who SoCal would use and guessed right each time. Pierce screwed up massively against DEHF, costing us that lead and momentum. Had he won that match, we would have maintained a counterpick advantage the entire time.

You weren't there. You're never there. You don't travel because you're scared.

No offense, but you should let intelligent top players like P~S, Candy, myself, and Atomsk lead the Atlantic North crew. (I'm sure there are more intelligent top players that could help, but I don't really know you guys so I can't say. Just speak up if you have input [TOP PLAYERS ONLY] )
False. You are assuming top player = top tactician. Incorrect. You are not my peer as a tactician. None of you are as educated as I am with regards to what other regions have at their disposal and what their weaknesses and strengths are, you especially. I know what the other regions are planning. I know their line-ups. I've played their teams. MD/VA players haven't.

Do you know what characters specific players on the other teams are weak against? I do. Information like that is what I offer, which makes me the best tactician.

I am ideal to lead the crew.

I like how you are taking initiative to create discussion on this subject and I completely agree with most of your decisions. Good job. Except, Meep is going to be on the crew. Don't be foolish. Also, I think we need more Metaknights on this crew.
As far as I know, Meep isn't going and is taking a break.
 

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Please remember, Chu, that inui thinks Snake is the best character, hence why he includes more Snakes

I'd rather see Meep over Fatal, not that fatal is bad, but he's not up to snuff with the core atlantic north (lets seem him win an MD/VA tourney)

I figured this thread would turn into a drama fest, and its headed that way

Inui, you really aren't a metaknight that i'd consider for this, you also forget Kornn, one of the best metaknights around, and Sanoscy, Atomsk will vouge for how good sanoscy is.

June, Sanoscy, P~S, Boss, Kornn all need to be in the discussion as long as fatal is.
 

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Please remember, Chu, that inui thinks Snake is the best character, hence why he includes more Snakes
That had nothing to do with it. Snake is indeed a gdlk character. We just happen to have a lot of very good Snakes.

I'd rather see Meep over Fatal, not that fatal is bad, but he's not up to snuff with the core atlantic north (lets seem him win an MD/VA tourney)
I'd rather see Meep show up and not take a break and get rusty, but hey, can't always get what you want.

Inui, you really aren't a metaknight that i'd consider for this, you also forget Kornn, one of the best metaknights around, and Sanoscy, Atomsk will vouge for how good sanoscy is.

June, Sanoscy, P~S, Boss, Kornn all need to be in the discussion as long as fatal is.
I'm the best Meta Knight you just listed.

I'm not going to make this crew some MD/VA crew. Your region is weaker than NY/NJ. Face it. Accept it. Stop being biased.
 

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perfect grammar lol

MD/VA is lookin mad biased right now lol
Ah, pardon me. Error corrected.

Yes, MD/VA is by far the most biased and prideful region. If they're going to be like that, I'd be willing to just not even include them and throw in players like Shadow, NinjaLink, and KoolAid and win anyways. Bias is too damaging. MD/VA is clearly weaker than NY/NJ right now, yet the MD/VA people come here wanting all their boys in the crew, which would mean taking out better players, because they are biased. I compete in both areas all the time. MD/VA isn't as good. It's just how it is.
 

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Am I the only MD/VA player who likes Inui's thinking on this? :(
You are one of few not infected by your region's pride and bias.

MD/VA is full of talent and skill and potential. It's a shame it's also full of unwarranted pride. MD/VA has a habit of letting OOS players walk all over them. Last MD/VA tournament OOS went to? Teams was won by OOS, as usual, this time not Atomsk and I. Singles was top 3 OOS. That's how it goes down typically. Back at Brawl Till You Fall, teams was VA/NJ and NJ/NJ, and then singles was NJ, NJ, NJ. It's been consistent.

MD/VA players need to stop trying to shove their boys into this crew battle.
 

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Good luck with that.



No, my decisions were perfect. We had a severely crippled team, that's why we lost, and that's why I needed to build a strong initial lead for us. I called who SoCal would use and guessed right each time. Pierce screwed up massively against DEHF, costing us that lead and momentum. Had he won that match, we would have maintained a counterpick advantage the entire time.

You weren't there. You're never there. You don't travel because you're scared.



False. You are assuming top player = top tactician. Incorrect. You are not my peer as a tactician. None of you are as educated as I am with regards to what other regions have at their disposal and what their weaknesses and strengths are, you especially. I know what the other regions are planning. I know their line-ups. I've played their teams. MD/VA players haven't.

Do you know what characters specific players on the other teams are weak against? I do. Information like that is what I offer, which makes me the best tactician.

I am ideal to lead the crew.



As far as I know, Meep isn't going and is taking a break.
Inui, didn't you lead NJ in crews at Apex and didn't MD/VA (which I LED) **** you guys? LOLZ. You made horrible decisions at Apex as well. I got nothing else to say, but I know you aren't going to lead Atlantic North. MD/VA will make sure of this. Afterall, Pound 4 is an MD/VA tournament. ;)
 

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Inui, didn't you lead NJ in crews at Apex and didn't MD/VA (which I LED) **** you guys? LOLZ. You made horrible decisions at Apex as well. I got nothing else to say, but I know you aren't going to lead Atlantic North. MD/VA will make sure of this. Afterall, Pound 4 is an MD/VA tournament. ;)
Didn't that crew battle not matter, have no money on the line, and we purposely crippled ourselves to make it not laughably easy? Stop bringing up things that don't matter.

MD/VA is stupid. You're almost all ridiculously prideful for no reason. You let OOS win your shit all the time. You're not as good as NJ/NY.

How many more times do I have to beat you for you to realize I'm good? Have fun losing to me in both singles and teams at Pound 4. You're going down.

You have no idea what you're talking about. You don't know what the other regions have. You don't have the information I have in order to make the right plans. You're not even better than me, so I have no idea what you're trying to prove here besides the fact that you're biased as hell and ignorant.
 
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