i'm with u reno for the 3rd tourney in a row =P
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Atlantic North Melee Circuit - Third Event TBD...
- Thread starter CT Chia
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pockyD
Smash Legend
...then take less than 12 -_-
edit: regardless of what happens, this is absolutely a ridiculous discussion to be having AFTER a tournament has already been held and AFTER you have their money in hand
edit: regardless of what happens, this is absolutely a ridiculous discussion to be having AFTER a tournament has already been held and AFTER you have their money in hand
BrawlLover
Smash Champion
exactly, i completely concur with pockyD, since the money is already in their hands and the tournament is already over, why both discussing it? just take less than 12!
JFox
Smash Hero
PockyD, its been one tournament. The money wouldn't go to chibo's pocket, it would all go towards a prize which would end up essentially in m2k's pocket no matter what.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
thx for laying it out jfox, a lot more organized now lol. even with corresponding letters lol
as for my plan A though, its a tad differ than what your saying. its not strictly, day 1: points tourney, day 2: anmc bracket. its a 2 day tourney with the anmc bracket at the end. for instance, day 1 consist of singles and doubles pools, while day 2 consists of singles doubles and anmc bracket (or something similar, perhaps move doubles bracket to day 1? idk). this would still heavily attract OOS and OOR because well, its a big fawkin awesome tourney lol. think georgia. its a big tourney. no amazing guaranteed OOS pot, no circuit tied to it. thats what this would be, an awsome tourney, but also the anmc bracket at the end.
However, I do want to incorporate idea B into plan A, so I vote for a mix of A and B
what if we did this....
big fawken tourney, singles and doubles pools day 1, singles doubles anmc brackets on day 2. however, we also have a special VIP Pass/Amateur tourney on Day 1 for all of those who are interested. Due to the location of tourneys, the tristate are those who have it the easiest making it to tourneys, so the vip/amateur tourney will be open to everyone who does not live in tri state (nj pa ny). The top 4 from this tourney will advance to the ANMC bracket, along with the top 28 from the points system.
So yea, pretty much a complete combination of ideas A and B
as for my plan A though, its a tad differ than what your saying. its not strictly, day 1: points tourney, day 2: anmc bracket. its a 2 day tourney with the anmc bracket at the end. for instance, day 1 consist of singles and doubles pools, while day 2 consists of singles doubles and anmc bracket (or something similar, perhaps move doubles bracket to day 1? idk). this would still heavily attract OOS and OOR because well, its a big fawkin awesome tourney lol. think georgia. its a big tourney. no amazing guaranteed OOS pot, no circuit tied to it. thats what this would be, an awsome tourney, but also the anmc bracket at the end.
However, I do want to incorporate idea B into plan A, so I vote for a mix of A and B
what if we did this....
big fawken tourney, singles and doubles pools day 1, singles doubles anmc brackets on day 2. however, we also have a special VIP Pass/Amateur tourney on Day 1 for all of those who are interested. Due to the location of tourneys, the tristate are those who have it the easiest making it to tourneys, so the vip/amateur tourney will be open to everyone who does not live in tri state (nj pa ny). The top 4 from this tourney will advance to the ANMC bracket, along with the top 28 from the points system.
So yea, pretty much a complete combination of ideas A and B
pockyD
Smash Legend
so now you're running 3 separate tournaments in one weekend?
JFox
Smash Hero
Chibo- I think thats the best thing that will realistically be offered at this point. I'm gonna support that. Oh and Chibo, what are you doin with doubles? Can't we just do a normal doubles thing? LOL too much complications as it is.
Hopefully one day we can do C, but right now it seems unrealistic cuz this already started.
Hopefully one day we can do C, but right now it seems unrealistic cuz this already started.
How do you make a thread poll? Do you need to be a moderator or have a paid account?
Also, I vote for Jfox's C tournament. The only thing the ANMC does is get more money for M2K and generate local hype. I would rather have 4 or 5 30-40 attendance tournaments and have a huge 100+ person OOS tournament, then 5 or 6 40-60 attendance tournaments.
Also, I vote for Jfox's C tournament. The only thing the ANMC does is get more money for M2K and generate local hype. I would rather have 4 or 5 30-40 attendance tournaments and have a huge 100+ person OOS tournament, then 5 or 6 40-60 attendance tournaments.
JFox
Smash Hero
You need a mod.
I obviously side with pakman, who is siding with me. So I'm on my side.
Though I do find chibo's last idea to be the most realistic at this point. We could still give the poll a try though
I obviously side with pakman, who is siding with me. So I'm on my side.
Though I do find chibo's last idea to be the most realistic at this point. We could still give the poll a try though
pockyD
Smash Legend
i think you have to be a premium member
and i vote for the BCS
and i vote for the BCS
dibs on being on the panel that determines who gets paired for bowl games.
pockyD
Smash Legend
dibs on writing one of the "computer rankings" programs
You know, all this talk about money from a circuit reminded me:
I still have that $110 from the NJ circuit. (LOL) Perhaps instead of the 10%, I can just give this money and leave the pot alone.
I still have that $110 from the NJ circuit. (LOL) Perhaps instead of the 10%, I can just give this money and leave the pot alone.
that's mad shady WoZ
JFox
Smash Hero
LOL nah, woz is mad cool. Most people woulda pocketed that money.
But.. I simply forgot about it! XD
Actually, it's sitting in an envelope inside a safe in my room.
If it isn't there, I'll just give it out of my pocket. It belongs to the smashers, after all.
I know. I'm silly.
Actually, it's sitting in an envelope inside a safe in my room.
If it isn't there, I'll just give it out of my pocket. It belongs to the smashers, after all.
I know. I'm silly.
Cia
das kwl
people still have safes?? 
<3
<3
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
assuming the tourney u run has like 50 entrants each at $10 a pop, yea thats like the same. but i digress, thats actually really cool, and a very nice gesture from u woz. although if your realyl generous you slip us a 5% from ur tourney lol jk
jfox - what do u mean with doubles, like how do we incorporate it with the amateur bracket? ummm.... we can either skip the amateur bracket idea for doubles or think of some way to incorporate it.
edit: what if we did a amateur doubles bracket, and the top 2 teams (so 4 ppl) are treated like they are ranked #13 14 15 16 on the circuit at the end which then we move on with the idea already in place.
lol jkjfox - what do u mean with doubles, like how do we incorporate it with the amateur bracket? ummm.... we can either skip the amateur bracket idea for doubles or think of some way to incorporate it.
edit: what if we did a amateur doubles bracket, and the top 2 teams (so 4 ppl) are treated like they are ranked #13 14 15 16 on the circuit at the end which then we move on with the idea already in place.
I have a safe built into one of my walls. It's been there since I've moved in.people still have safes??
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You should use that money to pay for Bullheaded CT tourny. Spawn seems reluctant to do the 10% thing.
What do you mean pay for it? If nothing's coming out of it, it's not circuit, plain and simple. I can't blame Spawn for not wanting to make it circuit, but if it's not, then it's not.
pockyD
Smash Legend
is it covered up by an inconspicuous painting?
Cia
das kwl
oooh, that's hot
BrawlLover
Smash Champion
there will definitely be a buttload of people there, especially a cast from the show of md/va/gi/na
JFox
Smash Hero
wendell, please spam post in less important threads.
Mew2King
King of the Mews
again ill repeat, don't change the current plan, if you want to change plans do it NEXT TIME, not THIS time
Rain(ame)
Smash Champion
Okay, well I honestly believe the qualifier tournament is good for those who can't make it to the events that DO live in the tri-state area, but live stupidly out of the way. There are also some who would just like to make it to tournaments but can't.
Examples - Tensai, myself(not saying I'm good, just that I don't have the available way to get to tournaments most of the time.), Shakugan, Toushi, Gomen ne, etc.
There's no guarantee any of us will make it to the finals, but at least we have a fair shot at getting in there. Please don't say anything about buses, trains, etc, because some parts of NJ seriously have a lack, thereof when it comes to Public Transportation, such as my area. Seriously...it's limited horridly. Also, you have players who are limited to the number of tournaments they can attend, usually due to money, work, school, or parents (depending on the age). I truly think that the VIP/amateur tournament is a good idea. That way people can't feel frustrated that they didn't have a way.
Also, if you guys truly want a big tournament, I have a place that should be able to sponsor one. So if you want, I'll talk to the guy. He even said that he'd bring people in, himself. Sponsors usually mean a good amount of money. So that means it'd give OOS smashers a good reason to come. He wants good numbers, and if you think you can bring somewhere in the ball park of 50, then he's game. Let me know and I'll talk to him. If Chibo or GOTM (more than likely GOTM, since I've actually got his number), or even JFox or Scar wants to be on a 3-way convo when I talk to this guy, go for it. Then he can really get an idea of what we're doing. He even said that if it was large enough, HE'D rent the hall out.
It's a suggestion, so please at least treat it fairly. I want to help this circuit out as much as possible.
Examples - Tensai, myself(not saying I'm good, just that I don't have the available way to get to tournaments most of the time.), Shakugan, Toushi, Gomen ne, etc.
There's no guarantee any of us will make it to the finals, but at least we have a fair shot at getting in there. Please don't say anything about buses, trains, etc, because some parts of NJ seriously have a lack, thereof when it comes to Public Transportation, such as my area. Seriously...it's limited horridly. Also, you have players who are limited to the number of tournaments they can attend, usually due to money, work, school, or parents (depending on the age). I truly think that the VIP/amateur tournament is a good idea. That way people can't feel frustrated that they didn't have a way.
Also, if you guys truly want a big tournament, I have a place that should be able to sponsor one. So if you want, I'll talk to the guy. He even said that he'd bring people in, himself. Sponsors usually mean a good amount of money. So that means it'd give OOS smashers a good reason to come. He wants good numbers, and if you think you can bring somewhere in the ball park of 50, then he's game. Let me know and I'll talk to him. If Chibo or GOTM (more than likely GOTM, since I've actually got his number), or even JFox or Scar wants to be on a 3-way convo when I talk to this guy, go for it. Then he can really get an idea of what we're doing. He even said that if it was large enough, HE'D rent the hall out.
It's a suggestion, so please at least treat it fairly. I want to help this circuit out as much as possible.
Venom NY
Smash Lord
SPOC is not getting its date changed right? Because if it is... let me know say anything.
Venom NY
Smash Lord
Sorry for the double post..but btw WoZ your sig is ****ing sick
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
na spoc is definitely on the 13th. the circuit itself as a whole isnt being changed, were just discussing the final event
ame - how is it equally fair for everyone when most people have to attend like 6 or so tourneys, when other ppl can get in just for one tourney? were already trying to help ppl that cant attend many tournies with dropping the 2 lowest scores (which u get a 0 for not attending oneso that gets dropped). i mean, its a circuit, thats what it is. a series of tourneys where ppl prove themselves who are there entered in the final bracket. hearing/describing this description again makes me think there shouldnt be any amateur bracket lol. however, we were considering the idea of the amateur bracket to attract more players. it has to be limited in some way though, and while i thought the outside tri state was a nice way to limit it (since over 50% of the tourneys, actually, almost all of em minus 1 or 2 are in the tri state). we cant have an exception to that rule when like a small handfull of smashers (who are very inactive anyway) cant make it to that many. we drop scores, circuits are placed normally atleast a month apart (no johns and spoc being 1.5 months), so like what else are we supposed to do. we cant keep making exceptions for every single smasher in the entire US lol.
anmc final event: if u come from west coast, your automatically entered into the final anmc bracket!
(jk)
ame - how is it equally fair for everyone when most people have to attend like 6 or so tourneys, when other ppl can get in just for one tourney? were already trying to help ppl that cant attend many tournies with dropping the 2 lowest scores (which u get a 0 for not attending oneso that gets dropped). i mean, its a circuit, thats what it is. a series of tourneys where ppl prove themselves who are there entered in the final bracket. hearing/describing this description again makes me think there shouldnt be any amateur bracket lol. however, we were considering the idea of the amateur bracket to attract more players. it has to be limited in some way though, and while i thought the outside tri state was a nice way to limit it (since over 50% of the tourneys, actually, almost all of em minus 1 or 2 are in the tri state). we cant have an exception to that rule when like a small handfull of smashers (who are very inactive anyway) cant make it to that many. we drop scores, circuits are placed normally atleast a month apart (no johns and spoc being 1.5 months), so like what else are we supposed to do. we cant keep making exceptions for every single smasher in the entire US lol.
anmc final event: if u come from west coast, your automatically entered into the final anmc bracket!
(jk)
JFox
Smash Hero
M2k who do you think you are that you can talk with so much authority. You should stfu and be grateful for whatever you get, you are gonna make tons of money either way.
Stop talking like you are important or something. If you have another argument, make it. Otherwise, your comment is noted, thanks for the input, now stfu.
Rain(ame)
Smash Champion
I'm just saying, Chibo, it's not that some people aren't making it because they aren't putting forth the effort. Some people can't get rides because they're too far out of the way/have no true form of public transportation. It'd be fair to those people. Considering that most just can't get to them/aren't willing to help with rides. (trust and believe I don't blame you.) Still in all, that's that aspect. Please don't misunderstand what I'm saying...it's just that it's harder for some, than it is others.
My offer still stands as far as the larger scale tournaments.
My offer still stands as far as the larger scale tournaments.
pockyD
Smash Legend
in a vacuum, he's right. the "you're going to win anyways" argument sucks btw -_-
effort or not, tournaments are for those who show up, not for those who can't.
Mew2King
King of the Mews
i could say that to YOU jfox who do you think YOU are to be able to suddenly change plans mid-way through?
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<-- crosses fingers and hopes some gets the reference
<-- crosses fingers and hopes some gets the reference
Rain(ame)
Smash Champion
You know...I'm not even going to touch that. Why? Because people might take what I would say the wrong way. All I gotta say is that the whole picture still isn't being looked at. I'm just gonna leave it at that.
pockyD
Smash Legend
how so? I was full on board with the "amateur" bracket idea
just didn't need a big list of johns or a sob story to justify it
just didn't need a big list of johns or a sob story to justify it
Ryan-K
Smash Master
yo does anyone remember those guys with the camera and **** at alus event...i finally listened to their show -_-
they're mad disrespectful its sickening how like ignorant they are on EVERYTHING
here's the link for anyone who wants to know
http://www.youcastr.com/casts/archive/thefwordshow-the-f-word-show-the-f-word-show-at-gamers-gambit
they're mad disrespectful its sickening how like ignorant they are on EVERYTHING
here's the link for anyone who wants to know
http://www.youcastr.com/casts/archive/thefwordshow-the-f-word-show-the-f-word-show-at-gamers-gambit
Rain(ame)
Smash Champion
Whatever, we're for the same thing, so who cares? I'm just gonna be the bigger man and walk away from it. It's why I said I'm not touching that. Let's move onto the more important issue, which is about the tournaments themselves. I just need some feedback on my offer. I can talk to this guy soon as I get some.