BunBun
Smash Master
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King Bahamut
Smash Rookie
Ok sir I have a more serious question. I have encountered difficulty playing against Marth/J-Puff. The person that I play against has my strategy down pack, and I have began training to wavedash and super wavedash. Edge guarding has become a problem, because he has an automatic counter to what I do. Is there anything that I can do to actually have a real attempt at beating these characters again.
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
you say your friend has your strategy down
change your strategy
if you're barely learning to wavedash
i'd say practice the real hardcore basics before asking in depth questions
they won't help you if you don't have your basics down
go read the intro to samus thread
a good strategy is wd back forward tilt
vs marth maybe wd back forward smash
vs jigglypuff wd back utilt
watty is dead
unless drephen comes by and posts
change your strategy
if you're barely learning to wavedash
i'd say practice the real hardcore basics before asking in depth questions
they won't help you if you don't have your basics down
go read the intro to samus thread
a good strategy is wd back forward tilt
vs marth maybe wd back forward smash
vs jigglypuff wd back utilt
watty is dead
unless drephen comes by and posts
King Bahamut
Smash Rookie
Thats what I have been doing for the last few days. Rereading these articles on wavedashing and the strategies that come along with samus. From just playing a variety of ppl I knew that there were diff strategies that came along with beating them. Marth for example slashes at my missiles thus cutting me off from using them. So yeah I know I have plenty of work to do. Also I'm trying to curb my tactics because I have a habit of doing certain moves because I always played the computer
Other then that I will take all this into consideration and let you know my results.
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
playing vs computers is REALLY good, as long as you play them as if you were playing real people (level 9s)
if you play them just to win, you're not going to learn much
i like to go on infinite time, no stocks vs them and just practice for a while
oh also
vs marth, if he does a short hop forward air in front of you, you can probably crouch cancel into a downsmash (this is probably one of the most effective things to do vs marths at low levels)
anyways good to hear
if you play them just to win, you're not going to learn much
i like to go on infinite time, no stocks vs them and just practice for a while
oh also
vs marth, if he does a short hop forward air in front of you, you can probably crouch cancel into a downsmash (this is probably one of the most effective things to do vs marths at low levels)
anyways good to hear
GreatFox64
Smash Journeyman
this matchup is a *****hhThats what I have been doing for the last few days. Rereading these articles on wavedashing and the strategies that come along with samus. From just playing a variety of ppl I knew that there were diff strategies that came along with beating them. Marth for example slashes at my missiles thus cutting me off from using them. So yeah I know I have plenty of work to do. Also I'm trying to curb my tactics because I have a habit of doing certain moves because I always played the computer
here are a few things that tend to work:
on a level with platforms, run towards marth in between his attacks and immediately shield and up-b. this will usually hit and position marth on a platform, putting you at the advantage (assuming you fast fell through the platform, positioning yourself below the platform). at this point, harass with SHFFL'D u-airs and maybe even a dair which can combo into a sweet-spotted b-air. utilts work on yoshi's story too. this is useful since a good marth can pretty much out prioritize and overall dominate samus on the ground.
you're right about the missiles getting slashed away, so try to use them at unexpected moments. i try to sneak them in when i ledge cancel aerial attacks or when i come down from a platform.
also, marth's love to grab. practice jab cancels.
if you're having trouble executing your style against your friend, you have to break away from your own style and fight his.
sometimes there are certain things that players need to improve upon besides merely tech skill. for example, always be watching your opponent. it'll be hard at first, but once you can control your character purely through peripherals, you'll end up countering <i>their</i> strategy.
TheLifeRuiner
Smash Lord
i still haven't learned to watch my opponent, even though KFC told me to do it like a year ago lol
it's so hard when samus is so amazing to watch loooooool
it's so hard when samus is so amazing to watch loooooool
edgeluca
Smash Lord
I seem to watch both
I focus on my enemy though
AlcyoNite
Smash Champion
the best advice imo
Pi
Smash Hero
Watty, I accidentally the whole samus, what do?
soap
Smash Hero
samus boards on crack?
Geist
Smash Master
Always. [COLOR="#1f1f1"] .[/COLOR]
Big_R
Smash Champion
^^watys kryponite when reeling in new ladies GG
Watty
Smash Lord
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BunBun
Smash Master
Trail doesn't count.
Drephen
Smash Master
i call bull****
soap
Smash Hero
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