Ask a quick question, get a quick answer (The Marth FAQ's)

[ぱみゅ]

I also like to C-stick down and dash for approach/retreat.
idk, I just love to use C-stick to Platform Cancel.

 

[Pierce7d]

Learn to platform cancel like pros. Hold the stick down and then press the Cstick in any direction. The timing is way easier and allows for easy buffering. And if you miss, you will do an aerial of your choice.

This is how I do it, but I believe Ramin uses block to perform his. When he messes up, it usually comes out as an airdodge.

 

[C.J.]

I'm pretty sure he uses c-stick down for normal PCs but uses AD for when he does PC->Platform drop->PC->etc

You see him randomly dair when he's going for a follow-up when he misses the PC but when he's in the middle of doing something super fancy you see an AD.

 

[Ayce God]

^^good observation.

 

[-LzR-]

Platform canceling with Shield is also the easiest way to get grabs as fast as possible.

 

[Jeos]

may someone enlighten me with the location of the amazing D3 match up thread?

I can't find it an I'm currently out of ideas on how to deal with that ****ing penguin

 

[Reizilla]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=311118

 

[C.J.]

I should make more of those.

 

[Jeos]

thanks a lot rei :D

 

[Zano]

I should make more of those.

you should critique my vids since shaya is gone.

 

[Reizilla]

Wait your turn.

 

[Fire!]

Without being overly character specific, what are the best counterpick stages for Marth to use and why?

 

[Reizilla]

Depends on the match-up.

 

[Zano]

play on smashville every game, do the europe

 

[Ayce God]

this may or may not be a stupid question..idk. but if tap jump is off can you di upward out of jabs pikachus dsmash etc? or do you have to press up and jump

 

[C.J.]

DI has nothing to do with jumping.

 

[Ayce God]

ok. I'm being jabbed by ike or I'm caught in his up b, what are the inputs to di out of it

 

[C.J.]

If you're being jabbed, hit up and away and mash out a uair.

If you're stuck in upB SDI up a lot. If you're gdlk at it, it's a free tipper dair.

 

[Ayce God]

which smash attack do I di it with? uair? bair?

 

[Airslash]

How come I can't kill with Marth... D:

I keep getting people to 200%, but can never land the tipper.

 

[Reizilla]

Space better.

 

[Ayce God]

lol serious airslash ?

another question, how do you up-b outta shield with tap jump off
assuming neither back trigger is jump

 

[Zano]

use x or y obv

 

[Ayce God]

that's impractical, so you can't? ok.

 

[Zano]

then set jump to a button you can comfortably reach.

 

[Ayce God]

I'll just have to do without, don't have any buttons to do so with

 

[Airslash]

I space well, I don't take much damage, but I just hate having to drag the other person out to 160%+ just to kill when Marth is more than capable of killing at 100-120% average.

 

[Reizilla]

Land more bair and nair.

 

[MasterOfGalaxies]

Fresh Dsmash can kill, is super fast, and isn't difficult to tipper. Just don't hit their shield.

 

[Esca]

At 0%, can you fthrow > shDB1 > 1st hit of nair > regrab?

 

[Reizilla]

N o.

 

[Zano]

you can in europe

 

[C.J.]

1st hit of DB doesn't combo into anything until like... 150ish or more.

 

[ぱみゅ]

... or Jacket is active, which is rare, and would also mean you can't do it after an Fthrow.

 

[Ayce God]

go for the gimmicks bro, make that marth sexy.

 

[C.J.]

Or you could just do fthrow x2-> fsmash/dair/nair into follow-ups/DB

For guaranteed damage and awesome stage positioning.

But ya know, I guess things that aren't safe on hit are cool too.

/goes to play CF

 

[smashkng]

Is Fthrow x3 to Dair offstage (out of any of those throws) a true combo on DDD?
Another question: Which is the best way to wall Wario? Should I just let him escape unpunished if he throws something like Bair, Fair or Dair (all very well spaced) on my shield?

 

[Ken Neth]

No it is not.

Edit: I'm an idiot. For some reason, I thought this was the snake q&a lol. My bad. Maybe it is a combo, I wouldn't know.

 

[ScareMl]

Is Fthrow x3 to Dair offstage (out of any of those throws) a true combo on DDD?
Another question: Which is the best way to wall Wario? Should I just let him escape unpunished if he throws something like Bair, Fair or Dair (all very well spaced) on my shield?

for the second question, wario is a character that needs to commit to damage us. in other words, marth's retreating fair ***** in this MU. if you space properly, it will be extremely difficult for wario to get past a wall of marth retreating fairs. and if he's always coming at you with fair or bair, just jab/f-tilt to anti-air him. and if he's smart, he'll stop jumping at you so much, then you just continue retreating fairs and sh ff fairs to zone him. and if you watch the few vids of mike vs any wario, he catches on to wario's retreating aerials and runs to where they will land and punishes them with grab or db or whatever.

 

[clowsui]

i prefer retreating nair tbh. even slight variances in timing mess wario the hell up if he tries to airdodge through a retreating nair. the hitbox of nair is such that wario has to go to more extreme angles to counter your aerial or take risks to counter hit/punish the lag...in which case then you can easily use fair