I find Kirby's b-air also useful to outprioritize at least some of Pikachu's approaches.
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th3kuzinator
Smash Master
learn to DI out of his dair and try not to get jabbed.
utilt them to high percent and then follow up the fair combos or weak bair to nair.
You need to abuse his bad recovery, edgeguard him all day.
He has some killer combos once get gets you in the tent or if you cant di his drill to utilt/jab usmash.
try to make him approach you with aerials then utilt.
utilt them to high percent and then follow up the fair combos or weak bair to nair.
You need to abuse his bad recovery, edgeguard him all day.
He has some killer combos once get gets you in the tent or if you cant di his drill to utilt/jab usmash.
try to make him approach you with aerials then utilt.
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
with fox a big part i feel is, dont let your self get overwhelmed.
It's easy to get lost in the speed of a good fox...try to keep your head and space properly.
like Kuzi said, his Recovery is BAAAD, use simple gimps to make for some easy low % kills
It's easy to get lost in the speed of a good fox...try to keep your head and space properly.
like Kuzi said, his Recovery is BAAAD, use simple gimps to make for some easy low % kills
3mmanu3lrc
Smash Lord
Work on your spacing, as Fox is really good against Kirby.
Hiphiphooray
Smash Apprentice
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How do I do pikachu's double up-B? And how do i do the spam invincibility frames on the edge?
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
If you mean ledge stall, then just jump diagonally up and away from the stage for a short time then use your upb's invincibility frames to grab the ledge.
you have to practice it quite awhile to get the timing down.
As for the first one, I am forever unable to accomplish it due to my lack of a joystick
However, you can find the answer in the compiled techs list
you have to practice it quite awhile to get the timing down.
As for the first one, I am forever unable to accomplish it due to my lack of a joystick
However, you can find the answer in the compiled techs list
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
by double Up B do you mean..double upwards UpB?
if so its based around getting the perfect angle on your joystick...as kuzi said you can find the exact degree in the tech list im pretty sure. I dont think it's valid in actual play though
if so its based around getting the perfect angle on your joystick...as kuzi said you can find the exact degree in the tech list im pretty sure. I dont think it's valid in actual play though
Kaffei
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Hey guys, I have another question about Kirby.
I was fooling around and I found something weird. It has probably been discovered, but I'd like to know more about it.
Basically, I ran forward, pivoted, and pressed up B and I slid REAALLY REALLY far. Almost the size of Dreamland. Why does this happen and how can I do it again?
I was fooling around and I found something weird. It has probably been discovered, but I'd like to know more about it.
Basically, I ran forward, pivoted, and pressed up B and I slid REAALLY REALLY far. Almost the size of Dreamland. Why does this happen and how can I do it again?
asianaussie
Smash Hero
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-njd578Aws
It's just a glitch. It's to do with the physics of the game.
It's just a glitch. It's to do with the physics of the game.
Sangoku
Smash Master
lol? Kirby has secret teleport? I didn't know XD.
Is it a useful technique? (I mean doable and with applications)
Is it a useful technique? (I mean doable and with applications)
asianaussie
Smash Hero
It's about as useful as a grounded Final Cutter is. It's merely a surprise way to hit an opponent with Final Cutter. Props to anyone who spikes with it.
3mmanu3lrc
Smash Lord
Actually that's doable with most of the characters (if not all of them)... but in the japaneese version, it's better.
I've tested it.
I've tested it.
felipe_9595
Smash Lord
Pretty old, alpha have been doing that since .... 2 years ago xDDD?
Sliding up b xD
Dk can do an Sliding Up smash O_o
3mmanu3lrc
Smash Lord
And with Gigglypuff the rest looks ****ing insane.
Kaffei
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oooo ok. Thanks =D
leffen
Smash Champion
Hey guys, sup? I recently started messing around with 64, and im having mad problems short hoping :<
I know you should use C buttons , but isnt there a way to make 1 key always short hop?
My ideas so far is a software of the likes of the g15 keyboards... ( where you can bind a macro to a button, and in this macro you can control how long you hold down the keys ) but I cant find anything good = /.
help would be really appriciated.
I know you should use C buttons , but isnt there a way to make 1 key always short hop?
My ideas so far is a software of the likes of the g15 keyboards... ( where you can bind a macro to a button, and in this macro you can control how long you hold down the keys ) but I cant find anything good = /.
help would be really appriciated.
Surri-Sama
Smash Hero
if you set a key to any C-Button you'll have a button that'll always short hop if you press it properly.
You CAN short hop normally with a keyboard.
Dont use macros.
You CAN short hop normally with a keyboard.
Dont use macros.
3mmanu3lrc
Smash Lord
A software for that... sounds interesting, never thought about it...
I'm gonna try to develop it know, I'll let you know if I get to do it.
leffen
Smash Champion
Yeah but doing it on a wierd laptop when ur just testing the game is kinda... gay.
Gonna start playing seriously ( aka using a gc adapter- where do you get these btw ? ) if i like it.
Kaffei
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Just practice. I used to have this problem and I can SH 100% using the spacebar lolz.
BY THE WAY, Where can I find frame data for KIRBY?
Pink_Kirby
Smash Apprentice
Do you mean [thread=100456]this[/thread]?
KB shorthops will take you about five minutes to learn if you really try- just tap the damn thing lightly. Macro'ing is kinda frowned upon, but I suppose if you're trying out the game, it's OK- I know mad-fighter or someone in europe has a macro to allow ff-uairing, and I imagine it's the same principle.
Kaffei
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Thanks a lot =D
Blue Yoshi
Smash Master
If by frame data, you're looking for the character hit boxes as well, there's this thread:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=276826
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=276826
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
learning to short hop on kb is by no means easy, but you get it down consistently after 3 weeks of play
asianaussie
Smash Hero
Three weeks? Try one. Just actively try to short hop as much as you can.
th3kuzinator
Smash Master
Thats how long it took me to get it down consistently in matches.
Might be a slow learner, who knows.
Might be a slow learner, who knows.
asianaussie
Smash Hero
i just picked fox a lot and did plenty of short hop stuff
once i had that down it was no problem
fox is one of my worst characters now
once i had that down it was no problem
fox is one of my worst characters now
3mmanu3lrc
Smash Lord
It's not the same doing something in training mode and in real game play, you're probably not a slow learner.
3 days for consistently doing it in matches, is pretty good.
Sangoku
Smash Master
Anyway I still think it's good. I still miss some short hop and z-cancel with controller after months of play. I guess I'm the real slow learner lol. And it took me long to be able to uair without second jumping too. Now I still can't fast fall uair well.
use a button near the buttons you use for the arrows as said in the other thread.
It took me only a few days of playing though possibly this was since I use Falcon who seems to have an easier short hop to do (in comparison to the floaties)
my keyboard setup can be seen here:
http://i.imgur.com/YFVmg.jpg
It took me only a few days of playing though possibly this was since I use Falcon who seems to have an easier short hop to do (in comparison to the floaties)
my keyboard setup can be seen here:
http://i.imgur.com/YFVmg.jpg
3mmanu3lrc
Smash Lord
It depends on the shape of his kb, but that could be good to try.
@KoRoBeNiKi
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@KoRoBeNiKi
Plug your laptop to the power... 
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The Star King
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It might be that your keys stick a little/the input lingers. Short hopping shouldn't be harder than in Melee (or maybe the muscle memory for short hopping is only in your thumbs).
Mad-fighter is stupid and gay for using macros.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0AqQZDq-Ok7npcDJWY1pTNllEWEZaQnFOSE56ZTNvVXc&gid=3
this might help, the frame data for all the attacks
this might help, the frame data for all the attacks
The Star King
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standardtoaster
Tubacabra
Alright, thanks for those. Is there anyone who is like magus with melee, but with ssb64?
The Star King
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Um House I guess, he rarely comes here though.
Antdgar doesn't come here at all anymore.
Antdgar doesn't come here at all anymore.
NovaSmash
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Someone with the latest version of owna client can you tell me how to minimize kaillera. I maximized it on accident and now it wont minimize