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[hamburglar]

How exactly do you make your opponent shoot downwards when you do Mario's Down-B? Whenever I do it, he either sends them high, or they slip side-ways.

you have to end the down b move with the opponent being hit by mario's feet/legs. usually i try and tap b like i would to recover but not as rapidly

 

[The Star King]

How is Link and Falcon clearly better? Mario and Luigi, yeah.

Have you ever tried Link in Japanese? His Utilt is a lot stronger and faster, can break shields against walls/cannot be punished by shieldgrabbing, can be linked at any percent, he moves faster through the air (I think), and his sword has more range. His bombs have less knockback though =/

Only difference for Falcon I know is that his Fthrow goes a little higher, his Upsmash has a little more knockback, and his jump/Upb is higher.

Wtf @ Jiggs ******, Rest is like half as strong.

 

[WOTG]

you have to end the down b move with the opponent being hit by mario's feet/legs. usually i try and tap b like i would to recover but not as rapidly

Aight

Have you ever tried Link in Japanese? His Utilt is a lot stronger and faster, can break shields against walls/cannot be punished by shieldgrabbing, can be linked at any percent, he moves faster through the air (I think), and his sword has more range. His bombs have less knockback though =/

Only difference for Falcon I know is that his Fthrow goes a little higher, his Upsmash has a little more knockback, and his jump/Upb is higher.

Wtf @ Jiggs ******, Rest is like half as strong.

Yes I have, you even seen me play Link in the Japanese version. His utilt is only Stronger, pretty much all his attacks are slightly stronger or better, except nair. Higher Jumps(including up b). His sword looks longer, and it has like a black shade to it. He moves faster in the air in the European Version.
All those buff'd stats would make him better... but I find it harder to connect combos and finishers.
Only character I think is significantly better, is Ness. Every other character is either slightly better, about the same, or slightly worse.

 

[Blue Yoshi]

I prefer Japanese version Jigglypuff over American version. Even though rest does not kill as early as the other game (it's like a standard attack), she combos much better, and can easily combo into her other finishers instead.

 

[Xivii]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=257136

 

[KoRoBeNiKi]

Link's up tilt in the japanese version, is like kirby's, just less quick but I think more range. Its reallly overall broken

 

[hamburglar]

does anyone know anything concrete about ducking grabs to avoid them? i know kirby can duck captn falcon's grab but i'm not sure if any other characters can or if captn falcon is the only charater whose grab you can duck under to avoid.

 

[DMoogle]

How come sometimes a grab does half damage?

 

[hamburglar]

grabbing out of a shield with A does 1/2 damage

 

[asianaussie]

does anyone know anything concrete about ducking grabs to avoid them? i know kirby can duck captn falcon's grab but i'm not sure if any other characters can or if captn falcon is the only charater whose grab you can duck under to avoid.

Kirby can duck Link and Samus's grabs, of that I'm certain.

 

[hamburglar]

hmmm i'll have to check it with yoshi since i'd assume that kirby can duck all chain grabs

 

[earthadept]

hmmm i'll have to check it with yoshi since i'd assume that kirby can duck all chain grabs

I also know kirby can duck DK's grab, which i find pretty useful

 

[hamburglar]

hm this is good to know...i bet jiggly would probably be able to duck the same grabs as kirby

 

[The Star King]

If you actually test it just grabbing out of shield isn't enough to do half damage from grabs.

It happens if you shieldgrab someone RIGHT AFTER the shield stun of a move ends.

 

[Daedatheus]

hm this is good to know...i bet jiggly would probably be able to duck the same grabs as kirby

Kirby can duck under a fully charge Samus shot but Jiggs can't, so I have a feeling Kirby's just the only character in the game lucky enough to have such a ****** duck.

 

[hamburglar]

can yoshi duck a charge shot? i know i usually have a decent success rate for ducking fox's lasers with him

 

[Untrust Us]

can yoshi duck a charge shot? i know i usually have a decent success rate for ducking fox's lasers with him

No.

Your only option for avoiding getting hit by a full charged shot is by parrying.

 

[The Star King]

Or Jumping...?

 

[rpotts]

...Rolling?

 

[hamburglar]

....just shielding?

 

[SheerMadness]

Nope its parry or nothing.

 

[DMoogle]

...Platform dropping?

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

...Fsmash?

 

[Gates]

...don't get hit?

 

[SSBPete]

...ness'/foxs bdown? ness' fmash?

 

[asianaussie]

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOSHI JEEZ

gogo low shield

 

[DMoogle]

...down-B?

 

[ciaza]

Epic thread is epic.

 

[hamburglar]

...down-B?

i need to start doing this for flash points

 

[earthadept]

the ultimate finish is neutral B

 

[rpotts]

lol good luck neutral B'ing a charge shot.

 

[The Star King]

...Rolling?

Knowing Yoshi's roll, probably not.

 

[SuPeRbOoM]

...kick the n64?

 

[killa k]

...stack it up?

 

[The Star King]

...use a teammate as a bodyguard?

 

[DMoogle]

...run away to an area higher or lower?

 

[earthadept]

stare at the opponent until they forfeit?

 

[Xivii]

Ok enough please.

 

[Untrust Us]

Or Jumping...?

Only if you're at a certain distance to not get hit while jumping.

...Rolling?

You'll get past 2/4ths of the charged shot and then the rest of the hit frames will bite your ***

....just shielding?

It works but there would be enough shield pressure for samus to grab

Nope its parry or nothing.

...Platform dropping?

plausible

...Fsmash?

maybe

...ness'/foxs bdown? ness' fmash?

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT YOSHI JEEZ

what this guy said

...kick the n64?

lol

...run away to an area higher or lower?

basically the same thing as jumping

stare at the opponent until they forfeit?

 

[DMoogle]

...Egg throw to block?

(not actually sure if this works)