As Falco who is your hardest fight? why?

[TheKneeOfJustice]

In this order: Metaknight, GaW, Marth. Notice the presence of good disjointed hitboxes. I believe these are the only characters who have an actual advantage over Falco. Everyone else is even or better for Falco. ROB would be the next closest, but most ROB's tend to camp, which you can do just as well back. The same goes for Pit.

 

[Captainbrawl]

Sonic is my worst matchup whether i'm using Fox or Falco. My Lasers & Shine is'nt fast enough to stop Sonic. MK i can handle.

 

[Dragonzord]

i'm having trouble with the marth of a friend of mine and i can't stand it cause he ain't that good with him
he just uses his B> and down smash alot

 

[Rayo1]

for me its D3 the waddle dees block the lasers and he can gimp falco pretty easily but thats the only prob for me other than that falco has a pretty good ground game

 

[the melon!!!!!]

I seem to have a weird problem with Lucario. I have no idea why, but I lose to him every time. Any help?

Also, I don't see how Snake can be a hindrance. I think he's a great matchup for Falco. The way I see it, as long as you keep pressuring the shield, he's easy!

 

[Rayo1]

I seem to have a weird problem with Lucario. I have no idea why, but I lose to him every time. Any help?

Also, I don't see how Snake can be a hindrance. I think he's a great matchup for Falco. The way I see it, as long as you keep pressuring the shield, he's easy!

well lucario is strange in general but i know from experinece almost every lucario will dair when falling and they tend to grab ALOT also watchout for fair chasing and side b cg at early percents. other than that lucario is a pretty easy opponent

 

[istudying]

i porb will say meta knight because of his close range atacks

 

[PCHU]

Sonic is just ********.
It's like you THINK he shouldn't be able to attack you (being since he JUST DID) and you go in for a hit, and realize that he's already hit you again with his dsmash, dtilt, jab, or ANYTHING.
It seems like he cancels out EVERYTHING.

AND ANOTHER THING.
He rolls up into a ball for like 4 different attacks, and it's getting hard to remember which does which.
I do know that when he glows yellow, I RUN.
Dsmash is freakin evil.
But, he always forgets that I love lasers.
Only trouble is that Sonic doesn't cooperate with laserlock's properties.
Chaining Sonic is rather annoying, being that if you don't time everything PERFECTLY, he WILL get out, and jump away.

However, it makes me feel great inside when fsmash him into defeat.
2 days ago, I was about to die, and he jumped off, and in all his stupidity, forgot that I know how to Phantasm Meteor.
PWN'd.

 

[Shy Guy 86]

Sonic is just ********.
It's like you THINK he shouldn't be able to attack you (being since he JUST DID) and you go in for a hit, and realize that he's already hit you again with his dsmash, dtilt, jab, or ANYTHING.
It seems like he cancels out EVERYTHING.

AND ANOTHER THING.
He rolls up into a ball for like 4 different attacks, and it's getting hard to remember which does which.
I do know that when he glows yellow, I RUN.
Dsmash is freakin evil.
But, he always forgets that I love lasers.
Only trouble is that Sonic doesn't cooperate with laserlock's properties.
Chaining Sonic is rather annoying, being that if you don't time everything PERFECTLY, he WILL get out, and jump away.

However, it makes me feel great inside when fsmash him into defeat.
2 days ago, I was about to die, and he jumped off, and in all his stupidity, forgot that I know how to Phantasm Meteor.
PWN'd.

Falco has an advantage over Sonic, its pretty easy to me...

I'd say GayManWatch. I hate him like hell....

EDIT: ****, I voted for Falco by mistake...... can anyone even it out for me....

 

[PCHU]

Oh, HE is easy, my friend just spams, and I'm not used to Sonics various easy-to-spam moves.
Also, it's laserlocking the little freak.

Other than that, Falco said it best with his utaunt.


I haven't come up with ANY hard match.
Snake got easily PWNed, and it was a good one as well.
I think it was the one that I first met with Marth, only to get my butt handed to me.
This time, he got served.
Didn't land ONE mine or C4.

Marths aren't hard, I schooled one in a 1-on-1 match today.
I got lucky in a FD match, only item being smash ball.
He got chain'd, but I threw him the wrong way and screwed it up.
I got the smash ball, killed him twice, then he got it and killed me.
At the END of the match, he got it again, and I was in his line of fire.
I rolled at the last second and he slashed but missed.
I lawld.

 

[Popertop]

Oh, HE is easy, my friend just spams, and I'm not used to Sonics various easy-to-spam moves.
Also, it's laserlocking the little freak.

Other than that, Falco said it best with his utaunt.


I haven't come up with ANY hard match.
Snake got easily PWNed, and it was a good one as well.
I think it was the one that I first met with Marth, only to get my butt handed to me.
This time, he got served.
Didn't land ONE mine or C4.

Marths aren't hard, I schooled one in a 1-on-1 match today.
I got lucky in a FD match, only item being smash ball.
He got chain'd, but I threw him the wrong way and screwed it up.
I got the smash ball, killed him twice, then he got it and killed me.
At the END of the match, he got it again, and I was in his line of fire.
I rolled at the last second and he slashed but missed.
I lawld.

You do know Marth can get out of the second grab with an Up B, and he can zero death you with two grabs and spike.

 

[PCHU]

Nobody has a spike anymore.
It's a meteor.
But yes, I've done this, except it was on someone with sucky DI, and it was SHfair fair, SH fair fair, SH fair fair to a SH dair.
And how is that 0-Death, unless it truly does that much damage to where you CAN'T recover?
It's easy to get back from Falco's chainMETEOR if it's done too close to the edge.

 

[Popertop]

No, I was talking about Marth doing fthrow > fthrow > dair.
As we all know, Falco has zero vertical recovery.
If you try to recover with your jump and up b he can just jump down there with you and stage spike you with a fair, or wait and spike you from above with a dair.

 

[TheKneeOfJustice]

Oh, HE is easy, my friend just spams, and I'm not used to Sonics various easy-to-spam moves.
Also, it's laserlocking the little freak.

Other than that, Falco said it best with his utaunt.


I haven't come up with ANY hard match.
Snake got easily PWNed, and it was a good one as well.
I think it was the one that I first met with Marth, only to get my butt handed to me.
This time, he got served.
Didn't land ONE mine or C4.

Marths aren't hard, I schooled one in a 1-on-1 match today.
I got lucky in a FD match, only item being smash ball.
He got chain'd, but I threw him the wrong way and screwed it up.
I got the smash ball, killed him twice, then he got it and killed me.
At the END of the match, he got it again, and I was in his line of fire.
I rolled at the last second and he slashed but missed.
I lawld.

You are playing bad people.

Falco's hardest match-ups (although not necessarily bad match-ups, and not in any order), are:

Metaknight
GaW
Marth
Snake

 

[shadenexus18]

Meh...it's that danged fairy in green tights...Link.

I find it kind of difficult to set him up with my usual Lombardi antics.

Air juggling- He counters with Dair.

Hand to Hand Combat- It's sort of difficult cause Sword ---> Feather Hands most of the time.

Blaster- His shield counters this when he crotches. (I found out that short hop lasering is useful still)

^And other stuff I have to deal with that I can't think of right now. Cause it's 3:19 A.M. in the morning.

 

[TheKneeOfJustice]

Both Links are fairly easy to beat. I hope to count you aren't saying adult Link is giving you trouble. You spam both, cg -> spike both (One is harder to do than the other), and like you, they both having trouble getting kills. Adult Link also has arguably the worst recovery in the game, so he will be dying at stupid low percents.

 

[PCHU]

Okay, skip this part.
Sorry if I'm thinking too highly of my Falco, it's just that I don't play pros everyday, plus I main Marth.
Thanks for the info on that chain, though.

Also, I have trouble with different people because of different things.
Spammy Sonics give me trouble, especially if it's a new move every few seconds, and I get caught in it's stupid storm.

 

[wangston]

G&W is a ****, there is no two ways about it. All he needs is that turtle and down smash and he can make your life miserable. Not to mention if he is smart with the bucket you can't really laser all the time. Though he is a **** he is my alt. but that still doesn't change the fact that he is a **** to fight when you are falco.

 

[Kinzer]

I just took a quick peek at the poll results and the first thing I said was "OMG" at how many people voted MK. He isn't hard to kill and I don't main Falco, you just lazer spam (yes yes, now let me finish before you say anything) and wait for him to get close to you. I think that with a lot of Falco's attacks has a lot of start-up lag therefore gets very risky with a quick-character like MK, however nobody said you couldn't just do a neutral-a combo to rack up damage. If MK tries a neutral-B approach, just lazer spam it, he has to ascend if he spams the button, so he will have little to no choice but to get hit out of it, if he somehow manages to stay under the lazers, stop and charge an attack before he gets too close to damage you, he can't stop the momentum.

 

[PCHU]

MK is just a DarthKirby.
Adding 'Darth' doesn't change the fact that he's lightweight.
Reflector can be unpredictable.
Fsmash is easy to see coming but has good range.
Dsmash is nice as well.
Aim your ftilt downwards and kick his face.
Dtilt is great for a good surprise.
Dash attack is predictable.
Approach at the last second with a SH'd dair.

Sorry if this "isn't a good strategy", I'm just using Falco's good points.

 

[SlashTalon]

MK is just a DarthKirby.
Adding 'Darth' doesn't change the fact that he's lightweight.
Reflector can be unpredictable.
Fsmash is easy to see coming but has good range.
Dsmash is nice as well.
Aim your ftilt downwards and kick his face.
Dtilt is great for a good surprise.
Dash attack is predictable.
Approach at the last second with a SH'd dair.

Sorry if this "isn't a good strategy", I'm just using Falco's good points.

Have you played a good MK or Kirby? Not trying to be demeaning, but neither are simple matchups. Honestly they both beat you in gimping.

 

[PCHU]

I play a good Kirby almost every day.
But one thing keeps me from being gimped, and that's reverse gimping.
Nothing new, you should do it as well.

Lure the opponent offstage (easy to do as Kirby LOVES to smash) and simply phantasm at the right time.
If done right, you should have meteored the Kirbean/ Metabite, and be back on stage.

I've done this several times, and it gets funnier every time.
I won a match on Luigi's Mansion (which I HATE) by doing that.

 

[SlashTalon]

I'll Just leave it at that...

 

[PCHU]

Meaning?
I think it's a good strategy, as it keeps you from dying, and it (usually) gets you a free KO.
Well, if Kirby is at a high enough percentage.
Kirby and Metaknight can survive almost anything....

 

[Popertop]

G&W is a ****, there is no two ways about it. All he needs is that turtle and down smash and he can make your life miserable. Not to mention if he is smart with the bucket you can't really laser all the time. Though he is a **** he is my alt. but that still doesn't change the fact that he is a **** to fight when you are falco.

mmm, there are ways around his priority, and bucketing lazers is dangerous.
There's a lot of lag after a bucket, and that usually means a free boost smash.

 

[WatzUp]

i have to say kirby since its so hard for me not to get combo'd by his Bair and his UpB i find it hard to approach him without getting punished!

 

[Mith_]

I happen to think Game and Watch is the perfect counter to Falco.

G&W Bucket can make you hesitant to use laser pressure because unlike Fox's bucket, G&W bucket can kill at a low percent (It does 60% and has a lot of knockback).

Game and Watch is better in the air than Falco, and has some nice ground priority. (Or maybe it was just me, I could never outprioritize Falco when I mained G&W, but people using G&W can outprioritize me now that I main Falco, and that pisses me off to the extreme.)

G&W can duck under your Lasers if his bucket is full too.

65:45 in favor of G&W imo.

 

[Nexus Bond]

65:45 in favor of G&W imo.

Actually 100-65=35, so 65:35.
I agree with Mithx that Game and Watch is Falco's hardest matchup, since he can't be chaingrabbed and has amazing speed (in attacks), priority, air game, range, and power.

 

[Airborne]

i would say MK, Olimar, and G&W. i've never faced an MK in person, thank god there aren't any of those flamers in kentucky, and my friend's olimar already knows how my falco works. my friend who plays G&W sucks, but the way that he spams as he plays allows him to get away with going from key to torch...

 

[Airborne]

Meaning?
I think it's a good strategy, as it keeps you from dying, and it (usually) gets you a free KO.
Well, if Kirby is at a high enough percentage.
Kirby and Metaknight can survive almost anything....

but isn't the phantasm easily predictable, especially against good kirby players? i mean, if you seriously think that a kirby farther up in a gigantic tournament won't find the right timing, at all times, to knock you out of the phantasm, you might need to do more than just that. and any MK just ***** any attempt to getting back on stage unless the player does something wrong due to human error. that's all i can say. =\

 

[PCHU]

but isn't the phantasm easily predictable, especially against good kirby players? i mean, if you seriously think that a kirby farther up in a gigantic tournament won't find the right timing, at all times, to knock you out of the phantasm, you might need to do more than just that. and any MK just ***** any attempt to getting back on stage unless the player does something wrong due to human error. that's all i can say. =\

You are aware that this was posted forever ago?

My Falco is much different now.
And I've learned that he isn't the good Kirby player I thought he was.
I've been winning for quite some time with ease, not to mention it was online.

Anyways, I would have to say Luigi.
When I fought Luigi, he was just all over the place.
Dude's so freakin' floaty but he's strong as well, which makes him half broken.

 

[Airborne]

You are aware that this was posted forever ago?

My Falco is much different now.
And I've learned that he isn't the good Kirby player I thought he was.
I've been winning for quite some time with ease, not to mention it was online.

Anyways, I would have to say Luigi.
When I fought Luigi, he was just all over the place.
Dude's so freakin' floaty but he's strong as well, which makes him half broken.

lolz sry i dont look at the date b/c it's small. XD but yeah luigi is quite the nuisance.

 

[The H Kid]

Aw I'm the only one who voted Peach...

 

[akkon888]

I think it's Toon Link. His dair and uair corrupt falco's dair. After that I'd say it is Metaknight, he is one of the few people faster than Falco.

 

[JST]

Definitely G&W. He can DUCK under your lasers, and he'll bucket them if you laser carelessly. He also outprioritizes AND outranges you obscenely and can gimp you without too much fear of getting gimped back. The only thing I see Falco has going for his speed and the fact that he can kill G&W pretty early.

 

[BrawlBro]

I play a good Kirby almost every day.
But one thing keeps me from being gimped, and that's reverse gimping.
Nothing new, you should do it as well.

Lure the opponent offstage (easy to do as Kirby LOVES to smash) and simply phantasm at the right time.
If done right, you should have meteored the Kirbean/ Metabite, and be back on stage.

I've done this several times, and it gets funnier every time.
I won a match on Luigi's Mansion (which I HATE) by doing that.

and after being phatntasmed down they simply use there 800 jumps to get back on the stage....



I voted GaW his aerials combined with falcos fall speed means juggle town usa, his smashes own phantasm recoverys, bucket while not a superb laser defense can be at least somewhat effective and can get in your head, and down throw tech chase game is pain for falco

 

[Darth JoBak]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3UKE412Wps0&feature=related

g&w vs falco

 

[OverLade]

Game and Watch. Against Metaknight you can chaingrain to DAC or spike for an easy 60+ %, be gay and spam SHDlasers and side B, and use sliding Usmash to kill at 110%. REASONABLE matchup.

You can't CG gaw, you can't spam lasers. And DIing his attacks wont save you because they're so rediculously overpowered that it doesn't make a difference. He outprioritizes you in ever single way, and your Ftilt is the only thing that outranges him. He dies at low percents, but he can kill you at insanely low percents anyway, so it doesnt make a diff.

NOT an easy fight.

 

[mongoosedog927]

Game and watch is by far Falcos toghest match up. CGs on G&W are limited to agout 3 or 4. Falco has an amazing areial game but G&W is even better. His Fair has priority over the phantasm and his trutle is crazy strong has also has crazy priority over falco.

 

[MyNameIsRyan]

D3 for me. Whenever i play against him he always chaingrabs me which leads nto combos for him.