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While I concede that Bowser Jr. has huge chances of making it in, you should probably consider Paper Mario as well. He´s probably the only realistic contender.MySmash said:Mario Series
1) Mario: Confirmed
2) Luigi: A veteran from the last two games, Mario's older brother has to be in Brawl.
3) Peach: Confirmed
4) Bowser: Confirmed
5) Bowser Jr: I personally am not a fan of this character in the slightest, however given his recent appearences in games and cameo in Galaxy...he has a pretty good chance.
Zelda Series
1) Link: Confirmed
2) Zelda: Confirmed
3) Ganondorf: Now that the developers have more time to work on the game, the King of Evil should have an updated ToP look and a new set of moves!
4) Young Link/ WW Link: I think changing YL to his cel-shaded counterpart would be an incredible move considering the new moveset they could give him.
* I think Sheik has been cut
Pokemon Series
1) Pikachu: Confirmed
2) Pokemon Trainer: Confirmed
3) Jigglypuff: Smash veteran that has a unique moveset. Keep her in.
4) Mewtwo: Another Smash veteran who I believe deserves another chance. With the possibly of an amazing moveset, I am excited about this one.
5) Lucario: Five pokemon reps is a strech, but considering how wildly popular Lucario is and his natural look as a fighter, I wouldn't count him out.
Starfox Series
1) Fox: Confirmed
2) Falco/Wolf: I think whoever earns this spot will be a Luigi-type clone of Fox. Just a thought.
3) Krystal: Eh, not crazy about this one, but given her popularity and the combination of another female rep and a unique moveset...she has a very high chance.
Kirby Series
1) Kirby: Confirmed
2) Meta-Knight: Confirmed
3) King Dedede: THE most highly requested character on the poll! A villian rep and a fan favorite...the king will get his due in Brawl. I beg them.
Donkey Kong Series
1) Donkey Kong: Confirmed
2) Diddy Kong: Confirmed
* I think K.K Rool will be a boss
Fire Emblem Series
1) Ike: Confirmed
2) Marth: I may be padding Marth a bit, considering he was my main, but being the face of FE gives him the edge over Roy.
3) Black Knight: The best FE series villian. If not playable, will most certainly be a boss.
Metroid Series
1) Samus/ZSS: Confirmed
2) Ridley: A unique challenge to design for Brawl, however given the immense popularity of Ridley all over the world, the need of another Metroid rep, and another villian...it would be hard NOT to put him in.
* I think Dark Samus will be a boss.
Mother Series
1) Ness/Lucas: I am not quite sure which way they will go with this one. On one hand, they have been meaning to replace Ness with Lucas since Melee...however Ness is a smash veteran and I think he deserves his spot. Perhaps one will be an alt costume?
2) Claus: Wishful thinking. Another villian rep.
Other Series
1) Wario: Confirmed
2) Yoshi: Confirmed
3) Captain Falcon: A beloved Smash veteran. I don't think the captain is going anywhere.
4) Captain Olimar: Another challenge to design. However, Pikmin needs a rep and frankly there just isn't anyone better. VERY unique moveset.
5) Animal Crosser: Given the interview and the screenshots of Smashville, I would say AC is pretty much a given. Uses tools and stuff.
Retro Series
1) Pit: Confirmed (Awesome)
2) Ice-Climbers: Confirmed
3) MR G&W: I think he will be back. Probably the most uniquw character in Melee.
4) Little Mac: I thought about this for a long time and I came to the conclusion that a moveset might be challenging, but Little Mac is the PERFECT character to round off the retro classics.
Third Party
1) Snake: Confirmed
2) Sonic: This depends on a lot of factors...but I think Sakurai knows how important this character is to a lot of people. Rabid fans everywhere!
3) Geno: Love him or hate him, Geno is truly one of the most loved characters ever produced (partly) by Nintendo. I'm not sure how much trouble N would have to go through to get the rights, but if there is anyone they will go out on a limb for, it is Geno.
10/10 i think the only difference between yours and mine is i have Sukapon, Bowser Jr and Minda where you have Little Mac, A third Fire Emblem character and Black Shadow. If you three made it over my three id still be imensly pleased.Alright here goes.
* = unlockable characters
Mario -> Doctor Mario as a costume
Luigi *
Peach
Bowser
No explanations needed I assume? I am not including Bowser Jr. but he's the next most likely. Doc is fun to play as but he could just be a costume.
Yoshi
Wario
Donkey Kong
Diddy Kong
King K. Rool *
King K. Rool is a great character and I believe he has a pretty good chance of making it. He's one of many that fit into the villian scenario I believe Sakurai is building with the Subspace Emmessary adventure mode.
Kirby
Meta Knight
King Dedede *
King Dedede was one of the most voted for characters. All that would keep him out is if Sakurai doesn't want to toot his own horn.
Samus / Z-Suit Samus
Ridley *
Ridley got even more votes than Dedede but I guess I could see him being a "boss only" character. I don't feel the need to include Dark Samus (though she wouldn't be a clone) or any of the hunters but some are plausible.
Captain Falcon
Black Shadow *
Black Shadow is actually very popular in Japan so if any other F-Zero character is possible it's him. I could definently live with just Cap though.
Lucas -> Ness as a costume
Mask Man *
Word has it Mother 3 elements will be present in Subspace Emmessary and I think Mask Man (who is pretty popular in Japan) suits the second slot better unless Mother 3 doesn't get a playable villian (and it might not). Lucas is confirmed and he looks to play a lot like Ness if not almost exactly like him so... being a costume may be all they can do to keep Ness besides having a Mario and Luigi type situation.
Fox -> Falco as a costume (yeah I realize that's a stretch but it's a way to keep him in)
Krystal
Wolf *
Because of the villian scenario I opted for Wolf to be in the Star Fox reps. I don't think people would want Falco to have a different move set in Brawl than in Melee so I made him a costume as well. To accomodate, Fox would be able to jump higher and land a bit slower making him somewhere between Fox and Falco from Melee. Krystal is pretty much a given.
Marth
Ike
Macaiah (sp?) or Black Knight *
I can't see them ditching Marth but Roy is out (bless his soul, I'll miss him). Marth's move set is entirely too popular to get rid of but maybe they could give Sigurd Marth's moveset. Ike is confirmed so it would make a bit of sense to have Black Knight (who was actually voted for ) at least as a boss but maybe even as a playable boss. I'd prefer Macaiah though and Brawl really could use some more female fighters and she's a caster which would be better than another sword using lord from FE.
Pokemon Trainer
Pikachu
Jigglypuff *
MewTwo *
Lucario *
I'm not entirely confindent that both Lucario and Metwo will be in it but Mewtwo makes the best "villian" out of the playable Pokemon possibilities IMO and Lucario is too popular not to at least be considered (but then again so were many that ended up just being Pokeball Pokemon). Jigglypuff will definently return and once again be an easy unlockable.
Issac *
Animal Crosser
Ray *
Captain Olimar *
New franchises are here. Animal Crossing is very likely to have a rep. Either unlockable K.K. Slider or a starter human character. Issac dang well better be a playable in Brawl but he might be overlooked. Custom Robo is world wide now so Ray has a good shot but not the best shot. In this list he's probably the "weakest link". Finally Captain Olimar deserves a shot but he'd be an okay AT.
Ice Climbers
Mr. Game & Watch
Pit
Little Mac *
Just one more retro franchise to add IMO and I'm not too hip on Balloon Fighter so I went with Little Mac who is at the very least under consideration. If a classic Japanese only character joined up it would probably be either Takamaru or Sukupon.
Wind Waker Link *
Link
Zelda / Shiek
Ganondorf *
Not a big change to the Zelda roster. WW Link is basically Young Link but with an entirely different move set to make him unique. But in all honesty I think just having Link, Zelda/Shiek and Ganondorf would suffice for the Zelda franchise.
Geno *
Snake *
Sonic *
Mega Man *
I included 4 third party. While Sakurai said "maybe 1-2 more" there could very well be 4 or even more (probably not more than 5 though).
Geno got a ton of votes so I imagine he's under a lot of consideration. Snake is already in and the other two are IMO the most likely iconic 3rd party characters to make it in. I'd like to include Bomberman as well but Geno and Mega Man have a bit more potential and Sonic was the most voted for character so the only reason he wont be in is if they can't work out a deal.
General info on this list:
45 + varients
24 starters and 21 unlockable
Lots of villians as I believe they'll be important to the story.
If I had to cut 5 to make it 40 then I'd ditch WW Link, Captain Olimar, Black Shadow, Geno (I like him but not as much as Mega Man or Sonic) and either Lucario or Mewtwo.
If I were to add 5 more to make it to 50 I'd make Ness and Falco standard characters rather than costumes and add Bomberman, Takamaru and Sukupon.
This made me cry OVER 9000 times.1. Mario (Alternate costume: Doctor Mario and fire flower costume mario)
2. Luigi
3. Princess Peach (Alternate Costume: Daisy)
4. Yoshi
5. Toad
6. Marth (Alternate costume: Roy)
7. Sparkster
8. Pikachu
9. Jiggly Puff
10. Wario (Atlernate costume: Classic wario outfit)
11. Waluigi
12. Meowth w/ team rocket final smash
13. Donkey Kong
14. Diddy Kong
15. Dixie Kong
16. Kiddie Kong or DK Jr
17. Pit
18. Ike
19. Pokemon Trainer (Alternate costume: Girl Pokemon trainer)
20. Wolf
21. Fox
22. Krystal
23. Falco
24. Metaknight
25. Kirby
26. KingDeedeedee
27. Lil Mac
28. Lip
29. Samus/Zero Suit Samus (As long as she stays zero suit for the rest of the match after final smash has been activated)
30. Zero (Megaman series)
31. Ridley
32. Zelda/Sheik
33. Captain Olimar
34. Ness (Alternate costume: Lucas)
35. Paula
36. Jeff
37. Poo
38. Link
39. Wind Waker Link
40. Sonic
41. Tails
42. Snake
43. Simon Belmont (or Ricter Belmont)
44. Bomberman
45. Megaman (Alternate costume: Megaman X)
46. Alucard
47. Banjo Kazooie
48. Ganondorf (NOT A CAPTAIN FALCON CLONE)
49. Captain Falcon
50. Starfy (Alternate costume: Starpy)
51. Sephiroth
52. Ryu (Alternate costume: Ken or Akuma)
53. Cloud Strife
54. Terra Branford
55. Balloon Man/Balloon fighter
56. Mog/Moogle
57. Mach Rider
58. Jill
59. Sigurd
60.Sukapon
How the hell can you have 60 characters and NOT have Geno!? this list fails, sorry1. Mario (Alternate costume: Doctor Mario and fire flower costume mario)
2. Luigi
3. Princess Peach (Alternate Costume: Daisy)
4. Yoshi
5. Toad
6. Marth (Alternate costume: Roy)
7. Sparkster
8. Pikachu
9. Jiggly Puff
10. Wario (Atlernate costume: Classic wario outfit)
11. Waluigi
12. Meowth w/ team rocket final smash
13. Donkey Kong
14. Diddy Kong
15. Dixie Kong
16. Kiddie Kong or DK Jr
17. Pit
18. Ike
19. Pokemon Trainer (Alternate costume: Girl Pokemon trainer)
20. Wolf
21. Fox
22. Krystal
23. Falco
24. Metaknight
25. Kirby
26. KingDeedeedee
27. Lil Mac
28. Lip
29. Samus/Zero Suit Samus (As long as she stays zero suit for the rest of the match after final smash has been activated)
30. Zero (Megaman series)
31. Ridley
32. Zelda/Sheik
33. Captain Olimar
34. Ness (Alternate costume: Lucas)
35. Paula
36. Jeff
37. Poo
38. Link
39. Wind Waker Link
40. Sonic
41. Tails
42. Snake
43. Simon Belmont (or Ricter Belmont)
44. Bomberman
45. Megaman (Alternate costume: Megaman X)
46. Alucard
47. Banjo Kazooie
48. Ganondorf (NOT A CAPTAIN FALCON CLONE)
49. Captain Falcon
50. Starfy (Alternate costume: Starpy)
51. Sephiroth
52. Ryu (Alternate costume: Ken or Akuma)
53. Cloud Strife
54. Terra Branford
55. Balloon Man/Balloon fighter
56. Mog/Moogle
57. Mach Rider
58. Jill
59. Sigurd
60.Sukapon
Sorry, didn't know it would be THAT bad...This made me cry OVER 9000 times.
Well, these lists represent the characters that we individually would like to see make it to Brawl. I never cared for Geno, never saw how he was cool or why people made a big deal about him. I admit super mario RPG was good, but Geno was never a character to catch my interest, therefor he didn't make it to my rosterHow the hell can you have 60 characters and NOT have Geno!? this list fails, sorry