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Apex Legends Mafia: Boosted GAME OVER Who won?
- Thread starter Chaco
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Perfect.
why do we lynch claimed tracker LG over claimed jailer wam here like if theyre buddies we can still hit em back to back, I just dont get the order of operations on this
fontisian
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Laser is more likely scum.
Independent of claim, yes? And you yeet Wam if Laser is town, yes? But not if he flips scum, yes?
Ultimate tinfoil terror subverted, in my head, Boom was Sabrar, not Somitomi.
ok LG finally started talking about wam in my re-read and
fontisian
I'm a bit confused by your claim he's always been defending wam, I'm seeing more defense of sab's slot than wam
fontisian
I'm a bit confused by your claim he's always been defending wam, I'm seeing more defense of sab's slot than wam only about halfway thru his posts tho but these really stick out
Maven89
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these claims are not in a vacuum. Lasers play has been less easy to explain as town. And more importantly, it will reveal much more of the game when he flips.
wait did someone explain how wam is town and I missed it? or can you?
I know xivii said town!wam cuz the wagon was coming too easy which I empathize with because easy wagons D1 always feel sketch because we'd like to believe people aren't that savage with bus game but I don't remember any other pro wam takes
fontisian
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I don't know. I want to kill Laser regardless of Wam's alignment, I might not kill Wam if Laser is town.
fontisian
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Keep going, he starts defending Wam for no reason.ok LG finally started talking about wam in my re-read and
only about halfway thru his posts tho but these really stick out
I know what I care about, what more does it reveal to you vs what more do you get from Wam?
Ok, sure. **** Wam first case. Walk me through your process in each of the Laser flips.
Xivii
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Woah woah woah, I still want wam. Just LG more.
God, I miss my corkboard.
Maven89
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Red Ryus defense of Laser, and Xiviis sudden mad dash to get laser lynched will both look very different on a town flip. I’m sure there are other interactions that will come up on a reread, but these two are the big ones for me
fontisian
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It's not about that. I want a scumflip I can build off of. I feel Laser is scum, so I want his flip.
Maven89
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I don’t think he’s town, but his play could just be playing poorly as town. Laser’s play would be more “I don’t give a **** but I’ll pop up” as town, which I find harder to justify
And you get nothing from a Wam flip or do you just not know and will also need a reread?
ok found the 180
def very conspicuous, he even goes out of his way to call himself out on it being an overt 180
why did you say he was defending wam the entire time tho? intentional or not it was an exaggeration, and wouldnt it have been more helpful to say "LG 180'd on wam" originally instead of what you said?
wasnt trying to imply you were hardcore town!wam I was just recounting what came to mind when I was trying to remember pro wam takes off the top of my head
This ***** keeps dodging my question.
I'm asking what you do if Laser flips town, Font. I'm also asking where you're looking if Laser flips scum.
fontisian
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I don't get your question? My reads are not based on connections between people in advance of flips, they do not change massively when a flip happens, but rather I go back and reassess. Laser flipping town will not have me being like "ooh, maybe I was wrong on Xivii after all" because Xivii's behavior was still towny. Same for you, same for Boon, same for Maven, kind of same for Frozen right now.
**** this post is so ****ing weird
fontisian
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Bessie and Wam. Maybe Ryu.
Wam and Bessie. Maybe Ryu.
Maybe I branch out more if Laser flips town, maybe I focus in on specific people more if he's scum.
OK! GREAT!
Then it should be EVEN EASIER for you to tell me what you are currently looking at doing on either Laser flip since it's not based on connections and do not massively change on a flip. Why is this so difficult?
Thank you. Jeeeeeeeeeez
Maven89
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I have no doubt we’d get information from a Wam flip, but there has been no weird interactions with him that pinged me like there has with Laser
fontisian
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At the moment of the flip.
You're really not getting this.
When we get the flip, I am going to reread everything with it in mind and then /probably/ end up in a different place. I haven't done that yet because I don't have the ****ing flip.
LaserGuy
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Don't have a lot of time as I have to pick up my kid from school shortly. Most of my feelings about Wam are summarized in 1013. I'm not defending him for no reason. I'm defending him because I don't think scum wam would be defending me in this situation. Wam comes across as very fatalistic about being yeeted and is more worried about Town correctly evaluating the game going forward and especially in the latter half of the game tonally he pings Town to me. Yes, his posting is scattershot and occasionally incoherent or inconsistent. That's his meta. It's one of the reasons he's basically always a candidate to be yeeted D1 every game I've played with him (~8 I think?). I also am very wary about situations where every player in the game is scumreading the same person. It's not impossible that wam's buddies have all been bussing him early and are stuck with it, but I think probably someone would have tried to give him a pass early on if they could have.
Assuming I'm being flipped today, I would advise against yeeting wam D2. Having a designated/inevitable yeet D2 makes it too easy for scum to hide in the consensus position and you gain nothing from it if he flips Town.
LaserGuy
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Actually, ideally we should vig wam tonight if that opportunity is available to anyone.
ok finished the LG re-read and LG's above post is actually a very fair summary of his pro wam takes
feeling very mislead by fonti but not sure if that was just her being hyperbolic or lazy to make a point or if it was intentional mischaracterization
its funny because above LG is going on and on about wam's meta being lynchbait and here I am literally thinking the same thing about LG lmao, like I'm gettign flashbacks to LG getting flashyeeted in Things I Like over DH which makes me really ****ing uneasy about the situation we're in rn
feeling very mislead by fonti but not sure if that was just her being hyperbolic or lazy to make a point or if it was intentional mischaracterization
its funny because above LG is going on and on about wam's meta being lynchbait and here I am literally thinking the same thing about LG lmao, like I'm gettign flashbacks to LG getting flashyeeted in Things I Like over DH which makes me really ****ing uneasy about the situation we're in rn