Apex 2013 - Pools up in OP! - Only at the door for FGC!

[KageMurphy]

Its not an argument, its how it is.

 

[Strong Badam]

You are the physical manifestation of everything that is wrong with the Brawl community, outside of the game itself.

 

[ぱみゅ]

Funny thing is that I started writing a long OP in regards to stock count and match length (wanted to post it like one week after APEX), and apparently the topic popped out itself lol

 

[KageMurphy]

You are the physical manifestation of everything that is wrong with the Brawl community, outside of the game itself.

No, I'm not. I've seen this argument presented a million times and nothing changes as far as stocks go because ultimately no one cares that much, its not that big of a deal.

 

[ranmaru]

This, more or less.
Eddie stop stalking me please, or else I'll report you for harassment to the officials of Smash World Forums.

@Twink: I agree with the notion, but I just also really wanna see how a major tournament would turn out if they just stopped giving the possibility a cold shoulder.

It would be boring and not give us any surprises. It would ruin a person's chance of coming back, and would upset many fans of their favorite top player.

But is brawls 2 stocks the main reason for a tourny going on to 5 am? I don't know. But I feel you should look at the tournament from a whole instead of only brawl, just because it is slow.

I mean, if you are worried because you need to be somewhere by 5 am, I feel your concern is legit. (or just that you don't want to be up that late for any reason)

 

[Espy Rose]

Did I ever say it was a main reason?
If I did, then I retract that much.

Comebacks would occur regardless by the way, and upsetting a fanbase for one player would never be justifiable grounds for any type of change, or resistance against it.

 

[Rabbi Nevins]

Did you seriously expect the Apex staff to repeat all of their mistakes? Did it ever come to your mind that they could, oh I don't know, LEARN FROM THEIR MISTAKES?

There is so much wrong with your logic, it's not even funny.

And I love how you're nitpicking when you didn't even go to the tournament.

actually i dont see how your logic makes any sense. Just because someone made a mistake doesnt mean they WILL fix it

source: pound 5

not saying anything about apex though i hear it was great. Just sayin youre a scrub bby ^_^

 

[Keitaro]

The sole reason the tourney ended at 4am was because matches were saved for stream for the people at home to watch.

Otherwise we would have been done with Brawl at least 4 if not 6 hours earlier, guaranteed. So stock numbers was not the issue for this.

As a heads up we had to wait for Melee to finish streaming before we could go on stream so there was a point where Brawl had to wait. Even with the fact we saved matches for Chibo's stream we still finished early enough that we had to wait to go on Jaxel's stream.

 

[Apasher]

actually i dont see how your logic makes any sense. Just because someone made a mistake doesnt mean they WILL fix it

source: pound 5

not saying anything about apex though i hear it was great. Just sayin youre a scrub bby ^_^

Notice that I said "could" instead of "will".

Love ya!

 

[ぱみゅ]

4 to 6 hours earlier? How long was Brawl held up?

 

[Espy Rose]

4 to 6 hours.

 

[AllyKnight]

yeah melee took a **** long time to finish, and they say its a fast game... Keitaro for faster runner than Melee.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Didn't the brawl bracket come to a complete halt when Melee hit losers/winners finals? I'm pretty sure nothing bracket wise on the brawl side was going on when Melee hit that point.

Like I can sympathize with wanting everything on the live-stream but halting all the matches for it seems really unnecessary.

Although, I wouldn't object to 2 stocks to try it out tbh.

 

[_OraNoS_]

4 to 6 hours earlier? How long was Brawl held up?

ClashTournaments' (or Bifuteki's?) side stream stopped Brawl when it reached top 8 anywhere between 15-60* minutes(does anybody have an actual number?) before Melee grand finals and other post-tournament stuff ended**. If Brawl top 8 had started on one of the side streams, and other matches had been played/recorded simultaneously off-stream, Brawl could have possibly started on 8WayRun's stream in top 6 with winner's finals, Anti vs. Nairo, and Otori vs. Mikeneko (loser's top 6) ready to start. I don't know if that would've cut off a full 4-6 hours, but that would have cut at least 1.

* = It felt like ~30-35 minutes to to me, but I was going back and forth with other stuff until after Brawl top 8 began.
** = both Melee and Brawl would have been faster if the projectors weren't breaking down.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Oh yeah I heard about the overheating going on with those.

 

[Mariabattleaxe]

Melee Singles Bracket!

just kidding


I did not have the completed melee bracket on my laptop because I had to leave early. It is on Strife's computer right now. I will post it as soon as he sends it my way. Hype :D

 

[KrIsP!]

http://shoryuken.com/2013/01/13/apex-2013-streaming-live/

Smash was really well recepted by the FGC, check out the comments. Good job APEX. And enjoy this Smash/FGC fusion!

getting a boner from their melee boners

 

[Эикельманн [РУС]]

yeah melee took a **** long time to finish, and they say its a fast game... Keitaro for faster runner than Melee.

idk man, melee was hours ahead of schedule day two, and melee never really takes a while to finish at other nationals compared to other fighters imo

it ain't the game, it's the non-game related **** lol

 

[M@v]

It took so long because we streamed every top 8, plus projectors were dropping like hot cakes.

 

[JTsm]

There were a lot of things that tied into brawl finishing at 4am.

Long Melee GF's.
Semi's best 3/5
Brawl takes too ****ing long.
All top 8 matches were recorded for both Melee/Brawl on stream.

That's like, the only little complaint I will ever have about watching this tourney.

 

[What's The Point]

Yipes should have gone on commentary.

 

[Alex Strife]

Did a full inventory. Missing a lot of things. I am missing sponsor things that I have to replace and it is not cheap. I am very upset and disappointed with the amount of theft. Due to the amount it will cost to replace everything if those things including several wiis, my ps3, and many game jones and other cables, I cannot do apex again. I am really sorry everyone. I hope that person comes thru.

 

[_OraNoS_]

that sucks

Thanks for a great tournament this year.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Did a full inventory. Missing a lot of things. I am missing sponsor things that I have to replace and it is not cheap. I am very upset and disappointed with the amount of theft. Due to the amount it will cost to replace everything if those things including several wiis, my ps3, and many game jones and other cables, I cannot do apex again. I am really sorry everyone. I hope that person comes thru.

The hell?

How did all that go missing?

 

[Alex Strife]

Many things we had in boxed in our roped off area were opened and removed without my consent

 

[Bl@ckChris]

shoutouts to pound 5

 

[t3h Icy]

Is there at least enough to pay out the winners?

In the worst case scenario, at least you're not Plank.

 

[crush]

shoutouts to zelgadis

 

[Alex Strife]

No that is not it. We are good on that. I am talking about extra money for setting up apex2014. I can pay people and pay all expenses but I might barely break even and not be able to set aside money for next year

 

[Seartu]

This is so saddening.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I think this calls for assistance.

 

[Apasher]

#HelpAlexStrife

 

[ranmaru]

I would so be into a tournament donation fund to help get the 2014 event HAPPEN.

I don't know how this happened to you, though. When was the last time you did inventory? Maybe it's something you shouldn't let be handled by staff members who you might not trust with your own baby. (I mean, I am not saying this might have been the case, but how else could it happen if staff wasn't involved?)

 

[Alex Strife]

I would so be into a tournament donation fund to help get the 2014 event HAPPEN.

I don't know how this happened to you, though. When was the last time you did inventory? Maybe it's something you shouldn't let be handled by staff members who you might not trust with your own baby. (I mean, I am not saying this might have been the case, but how else could it happen if staff wasn't involved?)

It was in the roped off area where no one was allowed. I am pissed that someone went there and took at least 3 wiis. It's sad cause I lost a good sponsor that meant a lot to me.

 

[Ryobeat]

Yeah, there should have been heavier security. A note for next apex. But a donation fund towards Apex 2014 should happen. I will put down $50 to start.

 

[Gea]

It was in the roped off area where no one was allowed. I am pissed that someone went there and took at least 3 wiis. It's sad cause I lost a good sponsor that meant a lot to me.

Does Prog know? Not to overblow things but I think this is something important for Melee it On Me. Someone may know something, and even if no one comes forward I think the community very well may. Apex is beloved.

 

[Bl@ckChris]

shoulda hired unknown for security. we will learn from these mistakes.

#freeunknown

 

[Djent]

Did a full inventory. Missing a lot of things. I am missing sponsor things that I have to replace and it is not cheap. I am very upset and disappointed with the amount of theft. Due to the amount it will cost to replace everything if those things including several wiis, my ps3, and many game jones and other cables, I cannot do apex again. I am really sorry everyone. I hope that person comes thru.

I don't blame you, honestly. This community has something special in terms of dedication, but some people have serious character problems they need to fix if it is to flourish.

Though I quit smash awhile ago, I attended Apex 2010 and had the time of my life. To this day, I still love watching anything you touch. We'll never forget what you've done for us. <3 Alex Strife forever

 

[Alex Strife]

I had security but I even then I guess it wasn't enough...sighs...

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Alex can you PM me an estimate of the total worth of what was stolen?